Yes. Chief Petty Officer in Federation, or rank 5.
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FDL or FAS
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Yes. Chief Petty Officer in Federation, or rank 5.
Ahh okay.. I'll stick with my FDL then.
If you want to know what it flies and fights like, effectively envision a hull-oriented Vulture with two extra C2 hardpoints and better mandatory modules across the board, but you can't slap on ridiculous weight before the speed/agility starts dropping.
Erf ...
Edit : The Courier is great, it has insane shielding for its size, making it an awesome RES farmer, especially for its price (A-grading it is a bit expensive though).
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i prefer the FDL. after 1.5. buff it is a luxury ship. sound design of a limousine, little bit oldfashioned cockpit, lots of speed, very well placed hardpoints, where i can fit all different weapons i like...
i have flown the FAS only very short time. i prefer a courier over a vulture, so FAS wasn't the ship for me. a bit too boring, a bit too functional. a ship for people who liked the viper, not the eagle
i have flown the FAS only very short time. i prefer a courier over a vulture, so FAS wasn't the ship for me. a bit too boring, a bit too functional. a ship for people who liked the viper, not the eagle
It costs about half of a "A-graded" Vulture. And a Vulture is arguably way superior (I understand while one wouldn't like it though).Expensive? Beauty of the courier is everything's effective because it's small (no snickering, please!). All the modules are around C3 and below, so a fully outfitted one should be coming up around 10 mill. Mine fought with a rebuy around 300k and still kicked serious backside
Also, please note I said "a bit"
It costs about half of a "A-graded" Vulture. And a Vulture is arguably way superior (I understand while one wouldn't like it though).
Also, please note I said "a bit"
We'll leave the "superiority" down to preference. I've used both extensively and found the iCourier to be the better ship.
I will say that the vulture is easier to fly, and if against an unskilled enemy will kill faster than the iCourier. It also has the advantage of generally just running two pulse lasers, which means no reload runs.
On the other hand, a well piloted iCourier is basically unbeatable in a 1v1 NPC fight. For a ship that small the shields are amazing, while chaff is up basically nothing gimballed can hit it, it's got the power to run SCBs and more exotic weaponry, and most importantly it doesn't move in a straight line like a slug over salt. You can get behind an enemy and basically stay there indefinitely, because while they try to turn it easily moves fast enough to stick where it wants. The vulture just has too many instances where an enemy will do a sharp turn, and as you try to boost at them to stick behind them or whatever manoeuvre you pull it just doesn't make it before they get weapons on you.
The iCourier definitely needs more time to learn it. But it's seriously underrated, and shadowed by the vulture on the grounds that once you buy the vulture, you can fly it first time just about as well as you will be in a few weeks time.
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Having flown both the Pitbull and the Courier extensively, I can safely say that, while the Pitbull definitely lacks subtlety (as its name suggests), it IS a much better brawler all-around. It has better firepower, better maneuverability, and better survivability (even counting SCBs on the Courier, which it definitely needs).
That being said, the Courier indeed is awesome. And I have fond memories of this ship. But the Pitbull is just a more efficient killer all-around.
That being said, the Courier indeed is awesome. And I have fond memories of this ship. But the Pitbull is just a more efficient killer all-around.
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What's a Pitbull?
a pitbull is a) a dog b) a tractor brand and synonym for those kinds of machine c) a very good description of a vulture: highly functional combat tool without any "finer" characteristics.
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This isn't really the right place for this discussion - the OP was after a comparison on two different ships, and I won't say any more on the matter after this. But while we're here, I'm seeing a lot of brashness and no evidence you've actually become acquainted with the iCourier.
No it doesn't need SCBs. Bi-weaves and shield boosters will do very well if you know how to fly it, and then you can sacrifice the heat sink it would have used for another shield booster. I trashed my SCBs early on and still have never been forced to even retreat in PvE combat.
What everyone does is buy this nice shiny vulture with a well-trodden loadout and takes no real skill to use effectively. Then if they try one, they use a courier piled with weight on and a bad loadout and wonder why it doesn't respond as well. The vulture can take almost any given amount of weight before it loses speed/agility. The courier can't do that. But when stripped down, the courier will happily run over 50 m/s faster, and is just as agile.
The NPC killing is faster on the Vulture, indeed. But to claim it's more efficient all round just isn't right. Speed is an important factor for manouevres, and the vulture is a one-trick pony; once you learn how it moves, it's easy to counter. That's just partially why iCouriers are a popular PvP ship, and most people that bring a vulture to PvP get their heads handed to them on a silver platter.
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I posted a video a couple of days ago of me in a Courier vs NPC Anaconda. Some people complained (as they do) that I didn't use FAOFF. Well in that thing I didn't need to. I don't think the Annie had a single shot on me either - it didn't have turrets so that was that.
I stayed behind it until it ran away on 8%
I stayed behind it until it ran away on 8%
Meh, play how you will. If they want to whine you didn't use FA Off, and still weren't hit, then they're complaining for the sake of complaining.
Interestingly my own experience with the FDL has had limited use of FA Off. I think tonight I need to go home and spend an evening doing some exclusive FA Off flying to see what happens. The FDL is typically a bit of a cumbersome ship at times, but I'm seeing some potential for some rather...unique manoeuvres.
Update to follow?
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=251836
I'd want an FDL if it looked like the picture behind the link, including colour.
I'd want an FDL if it looked like the picture behind the link, including colour.
While I totally see your point, believe me when I'm saying I spent a lot of time flying a Courier as my only ship while engaging in a lot of miscellaneous activities
I totally remember being somewhat disappointed when I changed my Courier for a Vulture. But after spending some time with it and tinkerin' its setup (yup, I'm using my own setup), it became obvious it was just a much better combat ship, for PvE anyway, even if it lacked "flair".
At least I hope we can agree to disagree