Engineers Are there any clues or is the player forced to google?

go about your normal ED business and you MIGHT fall on top of the required items

Thats what it appears to be for me

Your other alternative is to wait a week or 2 and someone will post a spreadsheet of all the items and their locations
 
Presumably a basic part of game play shouldn't require things like forums or cheat sheets to accomplish, since most players don't use those.
 
Not sure about the relics and the meta alloys, but every item you use for actually building a mod has a hint. Just click on the required material in the recipe. Sadly that does not work for the actual initiation quest.
 
Not sure about the relics and the meta alloys, but every item you use for actually building a mod has a hint. Just click on the required material in the recipe. Sadly that does not work for the actual initiation quest.

I have no problem with grinding or searching for materials for the upgrades. That's what Elite is... and grinding is fun as long as the basic game mechanic rocks. And Elite has some very good base mechanics.
But when the only way to obtain meta alloys is shooting barnacles, there should be a minimal hint where to go. Same goes for the relics, but afaik there is a system with this name to look for... ok... but please make them findable by a single player in a reasonable time frame and not requiring thousands of players swarming out and communicating via internet to obtain them.
 
How are the odds for a single player to find Meta-Alloys or Soontil relics?

Or am i missing any clues in some Galnet news or somewhere else?

I don't like it, if you are forced by design to use external, godlike sources of information from the game perspective.

Presumably a basic part of game play shouldn't require things like forums or cheat sheets to accomplish, since most players don't use those.


In my case, because of the vastness of the game, I can do with all the help I can get :)
 
I have no problem with grinding or searching for materials for the upgrades. That's what Elite is... and grinding is fun as long as the basic game mechanic rocks. And Elite has some very good base mechanics.
But when the only way to obtain meta alloys is shooting barnacles, there should be a minimal hint where to go. Same goes for the relics, but afaik there is a system with this name to look for... ok... but please make them findable by a single player in a reasonable time frame and not requiring thousands of players swarming out and communicating via internet to obtain them.

You're looking for planets in the Pleiades nebula, around Maia. The Meta-Alloys were a thing of the news a lot lately, so FD probably assumed you keep track of Galnet. Though it seems currently there's a bug with the Barnacles, and they don't drop the Alloys. Might want to keep an eye out for a post that it has been resolved. And the barnacles themselves were an intergalactic treasure hunt for many groups like the Cannon, and it also featured heavily in GalNet. So what we learned from 2.1 is to keep track of the official news just in case.
 
all the information regarding soontil relics and metal alloys have appeared in galnet. problem isn't that people have to refer to out-of-game 'god-like' sources of information. problem is that people are using these god-like sources to find places like robigo to grind instead of playing the game.
 
Presumably a basic part of game play shouldn't require things like forums or cheat sheets to accomplish, since most players don't use those.

Well the whole point of their game design is based on the community talking on internet media to share information. Nothing wrong with that. Is it too much to ask some one to make a cursory google search that takes all of the time it takes to type it into your phone in any case? I mean it is 2016 it is just assumed you are going to be doing something like this nowadays as it is much more common than you apparently think it is.
 
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all the information regarding soontil relics and metal alloys have appeared in galnet. problem isn't that people have to refer to out-of-game 'god-like' sources of information. problem is that people are using these god-like sources to find places like robigo to grind instead of playing the game.
I absolutely agree with that... Robigo was some kind of design glitch which has been exploited.

My concern is about the possibility for a new player who knows nothing from before 2.1. to obtain the required information necessary for finding these items... i will have on eye an galnet and try my luck (when they fixed the ) :)
 
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I absolutely agree with that... Robigo was some kind of design glitch which has been exploited.

My concern is about the possibility for a new player who knows nothing from before 2.1. to obtain the required information necessary for finding these items... i will have on eye an galnet and try my luck (when they fixed the ) :)

A new player coming aboard after the 2.1 update is going to have to learn about more then just Soontil Relics and Barnacles. Frontier really needs to produce some "the story so far" type trailers for Elite: Dangerous to catch players up on the important details that new players wouldn't know and that long-time players may have missed.
 
I think an expansion to the Universal Cartographics tab is in need for these very reasons.

I mean, what's the point of being able to connect to a database like this, but only being able to upload and not search it for specific items that may have been discovered by other commanders? Effectively, what people do on Google should be the sot of thing that appears within the game. I'm not suggesting that ED tracks every little piece of information every commander uploads onto the UC database, just what is already being uploaded on the internet made available in-game through a 'system' already in place.
 
Why have so few seen the hints the engineers give, highlight over the required goods and it tells you where to go looking (only broadly, no spoilers of course)
 
+1 OP

I don't like the fact that I'm forced o search forums and google to know how and where to find something. And I'm not even new to the game, I play since beta.
Last night I learnd that I have to find Meta-Alloys and didn't know where to go next because you can't buy this. I like to find thing myself witout using online help but I had to google this, there's no other way. I know it has to do something with Alien Artefacts, I read galnet from fime to time and forums also but I don't have enough info in the game. How about a new player? Chance of solving this without visiting the forums and google is next to zero. And for me and manny others, it's immersion breaking to search the info outside of the game.

A simple in-game text would do:
"Bring me 1 Meta-Alloy. You mught want to check out ships wrecks in order to find it or wisit Merope 5C in Maia system, word is there are some alien structurest on the surface and chances are you wil find it there." Or something like that.

It's not hard to find the answer online but I just don't want to be forced to do it.
 
So just to help out, according to some posts from Michael Brooks, Meta-Alloys not dropping is a bug, so they will put in an temporary fix by selling it at the planetary base in Maia. As for Soontil relics, the war state of the major faction dropped production to 0. They will edit it to 1, but if you want more, you better break your war gear out and help them resolve the situation. It seems the BSG is finally starting to influence markets, and we were not prepared for it :)
 
I have no problem with grinding or searching for materials for the upgrades. That's what Elite is... and grinding is fun as long as the basic game mechanic rocks. And Elite has some very good base mechanics.
But when the only way to obtain meta alloys is shooting barnacles, there should be a minimal hint where to go. Same goes for the relics, but afaik there is a system with this name to look for... ok... but please make them findable by a single player in a reasonable time frame and not requiring thousands of players swarming out and communicating via internet to obtain them.
While I agree that the game should provide more direction in this regard, I like events like this that bring the community together and foster co-operation between fellow Commanders. I was out in the Pleiades Nebula earlier swapping info with other players. Made me feel all warm and tingly on the inside. Shame I had to switch to solo because I was unable to instance over Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 1, though it was very busy around the planet. And if it wasn't for this meta alloys requirement, I probably wouldn't have seen a barnacle in person, which was cool and different to what I normally get up to in game (missions, bounty hunting and the occasional spot of mining).
 
Why have so few seen the hints the engineers give, highlight over the required goods and it tells you where to go looking (only broadly, no spoilers of course)
We are not talking about the materials for the upgrades, this is about the requirements for unlocking the engineer.
 
Would be good if there were chat lobbies in stations, so that when you are docked a small chat opens with anyone in the station. This would enable much more "in game" discovery through chatting to other commanders.
 
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Would be good if there were chat lobbies in stations, so that when you are docked a small chat opens with anyone in the station. This would enable much more "in game" discovery through chatting to other commanders.
Would be nice. Or even some form of in-game information/bulletin board/forum system, that provides an easy way for Commanders to exchange/trade info at Space Stations.
 
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