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What do you think of the new AI?

  • Too hard

    Votes: 954 46.7%
  • Just right

    Votes: 838 41.0%
  • Too easy

    Votes: 117 5.7%
  • Other (give reason)

    Votes: 134 6.6%

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See my earlier post, that's exactly what seems to happen to me on every single mission! i can't take a mission without being interdicted multiple times and destroyed by far superior ships. Haven't come across anything I can handle at all since the patch.

You have pledged to power, haven't you?
 
See my earlier post, that's exactly what seems to happen to me on every single mission! i can't take a mission without being interdicted multiple times and destroyed by far superior ships. Haven't come across anything I can handle at all since the patch.

So avoid interdiction, evade interdiction or just do not fight. Just simply run and deliver Your cargo.
 
I'm surprised they decided to keep this forum active. Perhaps that's something to do with four people disagreeing with someone and bombing the report system ^^ The discussions seem to be going in circles as others had mentioned yesterday.

People are saying the same things as they were yesterday, the only difference is that it's new faces arguing the opposing position, and the same people arguing in favour over and over... and over... and over.

For any new players to the forums here's some actual advice:

1) Avoid combat until the bugs implemented with 2.1 are fixed.
2) Avoid high value trade routes until the above condition is met
3) Please please please only fly ships which you are okay with losing in less than 1 second, that is if you insist on playing under these conditions.

These are if you insist on playing. If you can live without Elite Dangerous, please just don't play until it's fixed, because I can assure you it will cost you credits you don't want to lose.

The truth is there's a huge problem right now which some people are trying to play off as not a big deal; it is a big deal. People are losing millions of credits to the most ridiculous circumstances. Like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZN_yZ07-18

If you have seen that video, and are outraged that this is in the live game, I implore you to not post about it here. You will not be taken seriously by the regulars. Yesterday, their consensus was that this video, right there, was possible for an A grade combat Python to be destroyed by a vulture in under 2 seconds:

'the guy had 1 pip in SYS.'


There is a shocking level of denial here. It took 6 videos demonstrating the same thing, posted multiple times, for any concessions to be made over the NPCs being completely bugged.

I was under the impression that this discussion encapsulated NPCs and AI. Unfortunately, as a result of a rash decision to quickly throw all criticism into one bubble and because of the ridiculous amount of threads stating the same things were started, we now have an environment which is toxic for anyone with a dissenting opinion and it's the same five people circling the drain defending these demonstrable bugs to their graves.

Folks who are reading this, please don't waste your time getting frustrated over this, and the shocking denial taking place on the Frontier Forums.

The fact is, the game is currently unplayable. So do yourselves a favour, and don't play it.

Since yesterday I got bombarded with reports for having the audacity to say something like this, I will not be responding to this forum following this message.

Have a good day,

fly safe-ly into a different game until this gets fixed

Those of you thinking about getting refunds. Please wait until we get an official response from a Developer which isn't along the lines of: "not very smart to have 1 pip in SYS". If you find that their handling of the issue is not satisfactory, then feel free to chase your money, but please don't do so as a rash response to the bugs and the uncanny response to those bugs on the forums.

Thanks.



fricken well said.
 
I was actually agreeing with you until



What a load of hogwash, sorry mate you lost it right there, its not unplayable in any way at all.

I played the game all the time since 2.1 release and there were no issues other than one, and I reported that one.

I will file you under TROLL poster, as this is not serious at all and I for one are done taking you serious.

LMAO!

Breaking my rule just this once :)

Ladies and Gentlemen.

Disagreed with one, one of my sentences (allegedly)

and as a result, I'm a troll.

I rest my case.

Thanks for proving my point :).
 
Smaste there are people saying those videos are not showing bugs they are showing weapon mods and are as intended. not devs just players. but even so this has caused me to stop playing. i will wait until i see what frontier say about the weapons in those videos. if they are bugged thats one thing i can wait until they are fixed before playing - saves me time making support tickets for reimbursement and frees up support to deal with others issues.

if they are not bugged the game is being uninstalled unless they also explicitly state you can get mods for shields to withstand them, where to get them from, how to get the engineer to invite and make sure the materials dont require me to drop modules to fit a mining laser and an srv to get. because my judgement of the games risk versus reward with those things in the game cant be a percentage. its a coin toss. if you get one you die. its either not much more risk than 2.0 in combat or 100% loss with nothing you can do if you get a bugged one.

toss in the interdiction issue which i again got lucky and it said instant evade, not instantly yanked out of sc (no evading if you dont have time to throttle down or move the stick even). its just not worth losing everything because sadly grinding anything isnt fun and for me mod mat grinding is something i dont want to have to do. and you HAVE to do it now. neither is grinding back up from sidey and no credits. and thats where i will be unmodded if the weapons are really a mod not a bug as was claimed.

To be honest, with not knowing what's a bug, what's a feature and what the intent of the devs are now (is ED to be Dark Souls in space? Was that always the intent? etc.), I've docked up my Viper and put my feet up for the time being. I've lost assets to bugs before, and given the length of time it takes to earn them in ED I don't feel like losing them again until things are ironed out or confirmed to be working as intended. For those concerned about the way things stand at the moment, I'd recommend doing what Smaste suggested - take a break and come back when everything's clarified.
 
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Then don't fight. Just simply fly away.
If you are taking transport mission, then transport a cargo, not fight with the attacers, just fly away from them and deliver cargo.
If you are taking a combat mission, but you dont want to be a combat pilot, so i cannot help you here...
the game isnt supposed to be that way. braben wanted this game tough yes. he also wanted it to be the elite he couldnt make in 1984. they didnt give you a combat ship in that and you couldnt change ships. he gave you the cobra mk iii a multipurpose trader - you could trade but only small amounts. you could fight with it but had to improve the weapons to take on the real baddies and thargoids. if someone builds a pure trader then yes they also decided they dont want combat and will run. but i dont have a bad ship as you say. being a trader doesnt mean you have to carry the max cargo capacity of your ship before anything else. big traders dont go to the dangerous places.

by your logic those places can have NO trade and the galaxy sorry to say this cant work like that. somebody has to do the trade in the dangerous places the big trade ships dont go. thats me and others like me. without me those places dwindle because they cant support themselves in real life. admittedly the devs wont make that happen both because they understand my ship config and the role i play and because they wont start simulating the death of a an anarchy or low sec system with dwindling population and abandoned planets and eventually a closed dead station because they cant get essential supplies. and even the high security places the traders get interdicted now and that shouldnt happen at all. else there would only BE ships like mine not unarmed mass cargo haulers. nobody would build a ship nobody is buying because nowhere is safe enough to risk it.

also, for me, a game with no combat is no fun as much as always dying would be. but the way i play in my asp i dont go to conflict zones or hasrez or places fit for pure combat builds. thats part of the compromise. my ship is good for what i need it to do or would be if the superweapons didnt exist.
 
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In a Type-7 or a Type-9 against a smaller interdictor? :|



I was merely answering to a previous suggestion: "If you wan cargo, then you need to have enough shields to survive, thrusters to RUN and you should be focused on RUNning instead on fighting."

Smaller ships have often been referred to as interceptors. Are you complaining because they're finally doing their job and have a use in the game?

See my earlier post, that's exactly what seems to happen to me on every single mission! i can't take a mission without being interdicted multiple times and destroyed by far superior ships. Haven't come across anything I can handle at all since the patch.

Then you need to change up your ship, or how you fit it, or how you fly. You're doing one or all of these three things in such a manner that you're making the game harder for yourself, it has nothing to do with the AI.


NPC interdictions haven't changed all that much. I just came back into the bubble in an unarmed exploration ship last night and took my merry time running around selling data to get some of the new permits. I got interdicted twice and was in no way at risk of losing my unarmed, undefended ship with over 60 mil in data on board.

Oh, and I'm still pledged in PowerPlay.

Hyperbole is hyperbole. You're doing things to go out of your way and attract NPC's, regardless of whether you know what you're doing wrong or not.
 
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This whole thing just goes round in circles now. Those who suffer the most are literally being told to "just play the game and go away"

Those who love combat over all else are trolling the rest of the community for not wanting to play the same game as them.

Those who find the game unplayable are trolling the hardcore for destroying the game.

This is most certainly not the great community or great game I heard about...that was a complete fabrication as far as I can see but I'll take you guys at yer word if yer all saying the circumstances are exceptional. Gotta say though that on the eve of a long bank holiday weekend, the timing couldn't have been worse if they tried.

Anyway...I'm off back to my old game. Cheers fer the paltry 2 weeks of fun but it's well and truly over now.

Hope you guys get the game sorted but there's way too much toxicity in here so I'm gonna take my leave right now before it gets worse...which it will.

Maybe check back onto these forums later to see if someone in charge can be bothered to say something but not gonna hold my breath if that tweet I saw yesterday was anything to go by...I doubt they care about new players who have already handed over the cash...my tough luck I suppose...put it down to experience and move onto the next game.

Verm out ^^
 
What a load of hogwash, sorry mate you lost it right there, its not unplayable in any way at all.

I played the game all the time since 2.1 release and there were no issues other than one, and I reported that one.

I will file you under TROLL poster, as this is not serious at all and I for one are done taking you serious.

LMAO!

Overreact much? This here is the toxicity. This is why we can't have nice things :|
 
It is of course vaguely possible that some of the match making servers did not have the mayhem setting removed and others did. That might explain why some are getting only elite killers and others are not.

Just a thought and it does seem that people are having a difference of experience with 2.1
 
Then don't fight. Just simply fly away.
If you are taking transport mission, then transport a cargo, not fight with the attacers, just fly away from them and deliver cargo.
If you are taking a combat mission, but you dont want to be a combat pilot, so i cannot help you here...

Aren't you even bothering to read the posts? I tried running, that's why I went back to give it a go with different tactics, I never tried to fight a single time this test. Two anacondas they killed me before I could get into SC, really I don't know why I even bother posting here, I write one thing, some of you seem to be reading a different post, I TRIED TO RUN EVERY TIME, is that better, it's in caps now. I DID NOT TRY TO FIGHT THEM, ok? They killed me before I could get away, clear?

And it's every mission, not sometimes, not occasionally, every...single...mission! I lose a python every time I go out, I'm broke, next python down I am in starter sidewinder, that good enough for you? Advice is no good if it is useless, telling me run is pointless if I have just posted the very fact that I tried to run and still got destroyed, clear? i don't normally like to be so blunt but well, why waste my time with useless replies?

I will watch the forums, if they patch I may try again, but there's no point if I get destroyed every time I leave a station! If they don't sort this problem, which, according to some posters only seems to happen to me I won't be playing ED again. Not because I didn't enjoy playing, but because it's impossible to play it, unless I fly around in a starter sidewinder for the next few years I guess.
 
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