Being wanted

[akaliel]

So me and my Wing mate were off doing the bounty hunter community goal and everything is ok. I have my limpets collecting loot now while my shields recharge when one of my drones grabs some illicit cargo that was in the area. Immediately I get a fine, so I jettison it, and get another fine (which seems weird). And then all the cops in the area start shooting at me. Wonderful. So I take off, and come back and same thing. The moment I enter the high res I get swarmed by cops. For a $5000 fine. I head back to the station and realize I can't even pay the fine for 4 days. So now we can't participate in the community event anymore.

I like that we can collect loot, but there does need to be a way for us to tell our drones to not pick up any illicit cargo.

 

[Retu81]

So me and my Wing mate were off doing the bounty hunter community goal and everything is ok. I have my limpets collecting loot now while my shields recharge when one of my drones grabs some illicit cargo that was in the area. Immediately I get a fine, so I jettison it, and get another fine (which seems weird). And then all the cops in the area start shooting at me. Wonderful. So I take off, and come back and same thing. The moment I enter the high res I get swarmed by cops. For a $5000 fine. I head back to the station and realize I can't even pay the fine for 4 days. So now we can't participate in the community event anymore.

I like that we can collect loot, but there does need to be a way for us to tell our drones to not pick up any illicit cargo.

The second fine was probably due to the limpet grabbing the same cargo canister again. They tend to do that.

 

[kofeyh]

If you want to ditch illicit cargo, disable the controller so the limpets die.

They will pick up anything. Including illicit cargo. And they will keep doing it. Unfortunately if you commit the crime, you get to do the time.

 

[akaliel]

No the game actually said it was a fine for jettisoning illicit cargo. But it was a small fine so I didn't really care. Just thought it was weird. My main gripe was being locked out of the community goal since I won't be able to pay the fine until the goal was over.

I'd understand if I was pirating in the system or something, but getting shot at because my drone grabbed illicit cargo, there's no way I could have known unless I constantly cycle through every piece of cargo before launching collectors.

 

[excalibus]

because you obviously got scanned with the cargo on board, the local authories view you as a smuggler of illegal goods... or as a pirate... either way... cop it on the chin so to speak, there are ways to use limpets so you do not need to worry about this occurring, but that means 1 limpet 1 item recovered... perhaps you should just use manual scooping?

 

[Karla]

No the game actually said it was a fine for jettisoning illicit cargo. But it was a small fine so I didn't really care. Just thought it was weird. My main gripe was being locked out of the community goal since I won't be able to pay the fine until the goal was over.

Happened to me at a bounty hunting community goal once. My point defence shot a T9 without me realising. The T9 then later died at the hands of some pirates which was when I first knew about it. (I'm guessing about the point defence but that's a known issue with it).

Anyway, I had to buy a sidewinder and get myself blown up. The bounty reappeared again next time I got into trouble. I think you need to get scanned by the cops or station in your suicidewinder, then blown up and the bounty will be gone for good.

It's worthwhile considering how much you will gain / lose by continuing the community goal vs the cost of losing any unclaimed bounties by being blown up in a sidewinder.

 

[kofeyh]

No the game actually said it was a fine for jettisoning illicit cargo.

Which the drones would have collected again. So a fine for dropping. You'd get a bounty if you fired on a ship that wasn't wanted. Quite possibly as a result of someone shooting you to grab the illicit cargo and if you returned fire before the scan completed then the cops will blast you a new one.

Yes, you need to keep an eye on what they are collecting. Sorry CMDR, I feel your pain but you have to monitor what limpets are doing.

Perhaps your friend can claim your bounty, and you his. Problem solved. And do ignore advice to suicide with cops, only a CMDR can claim a bounty. If you suicide with cops then a KWS won't scan and claim the hidden bounty.

 

[cmdr_Havalok]

What was the CG? I'm not running any right now, but fr most you only have to TURN IN things at the CG. For many you can farm the whatever anywhere and just bring it back. Or was this "...Bad guys are in our system Clean them out?" Even then interdict (not as efficient I know but better than nothing) and stay out of RES/NAV sites

 

[akaliel]

My wing mate was manually scooping. Sometimes he'd manage to get 1 material out of the 5 that dropped before my drones collected all of them. It's pretty tedious doing it that way. And ya, sending 1 drone to get 1 thing is pretty tedious as well. Anyone who is doing a bounty community event, I'd recommend not bringing drones and leave the material gathering for another time. You don't wanna get locked out of a 10 million credit payday over some stupid shield emitters. Until FD allows us to give our drones some clearer instructions on what they should and shouldn't pick up.

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What was the CG? I'm not running any right now, but fr most you only have to TURN IN things at the CG. For many you can farm the whatever anywhere and just bring it back. Or was this "...Bad guys are in our system Clean them out?" Even then interdict (not as efficient I know but better than nothing) and stay out of RES/NAV sites

I could just stay in SC and get bounty's by interdicting but I'll make more money by just doing bounties in another system at this point.

 

[kofeyh]

Again, you can get a CMDR to claim your bounty, via the KWS. They kill you, take the bounty and you can get right back into it. This is easy to do in a sidewinder at the nearest station. Why not try that? No need to be "locked out" of anything.

 

[akaliel]

Which the drones would have collected again. So a fine for dropping. You'd get a bounty if you fired on a ship that wasn't wanted. Quite possibly as a result of someone shooting you to grab the illicit cargo and if you returned fire before the scan completed then the cops will blast you a new one.

Yes, you need to keep an eye on what they are collecting. Sorry CMDR, I feel your pain but you have to monitor what limpets are doing.

Perhaps your friend can claim your bounty, and you his. Problem solved. And do ignore advice to suicide with cops, only a CMDR can claim a bounty. If you suicide with cops then a KWS won't scan and claim the hidden bounty.

Keep an eye on them? Dude the screen is filled with dozens of canisters, ore from the miners, loot from ships, tons of stuff. We can't be expected to target every single thing our drones are grabbing especially when bigger ships will have several drones going out in every direction.

I love that there is loot now, but the system still has a few wrinkles that are getting in the way.

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Again, you can get a CMDR to claim your bounty, via the KWS. They kill you, take the bounty and you can get right back into it. This is easy to do in a sidewinder at the nearest station. Why not try that? No need to be "locked out" of anything.

Yes, I could do that. I have some hefty bounties to collect in empire and alliance space I'd need to cash in first though. But I'll probably just do other stuff until next week and join the fray then. It's not the end of the world. Just a new annoyance I found with the looting system I though I'd warn everyone about.

 

[Kuro]

Keep an eye on them? Dude the screen is filled with dozens of canisters, ore from the miners, loot from ships, tons of stuff. We can't be expected to target every single thing our drones are grabbing especially when bigger ships will have several drones going out in every direction.

I love that there is loot now, but the system still has a few wrinkles that are getting in the way.

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Yes, I could do that. I have some hefty bounties to collect in empire and alliance space I'd need to cash in first though. But I'll probably just do other stuff until next week and join the fray then. It's not the end of the world. Just a new annoyance I found with the looting system I though I'd warn everyone about.

Keep an eye on your contact tab and destroy any illegal cargo, if you already have limits out close your cargo hatch while you do so

 

[akaliel]

Keep an eye on your contact tab and destroy any illegal cargo, if you already have limits out close your cargo hatch while you do so

Crap, wish I had thought of that.

 

[PrimBloodGhost]

The wanted system in this game is stupid. Someone pulled me from supercruise asking for cargo. I shoot first and still get a fine, if you scan him and his a criminal and still kill him you are wanted?? Or if someone clean attacks you and you shoot back, you are wanted?? What happen to self defence? I shouldn't have to scan somebody before shooting in these cases. In a HighRes and cop are shooting at someone. You have to scan first. So stupidly done!

 

[thorn-]

The wanted system in this game is stupid. Someone pulled me from supercruise asking for cargo. I shoot first and still get a fine

You have to wait for your scan to show them as WANTED before you open fire.

if you scan him and his a criminal and still kill him you are wanted??

You have to wait for your scan to show them as WANTED before you open fire.

Or if someone clean attacks you and you shoot back, you are wanted?? What happen to self defence?

You have to wait for your scan to show them as WANTED before you open fire.

I shouldn't have to scan somebody before shooting in these cases.

Well, you do. And it's been this way forever.

In a HighRes and cop are shooting at someone. You have to scan first. So stupidly done!

Just because the cop scanned them doesn't mean you did. You have to wait for your scan to show them as WANTED before you open fire. It takes all of... what, 3 seconds? to get a scan result once your reticle is on the target.

 

[akaliel]

We know how the system works, he's saying it's dumb. And I'm inclined to agree. If someone is threatening me, I shouldn't have to wait for my ship to read his social security code and get his fingerprints before I'm allowed to defend myself.

 

[cmdr_Havalok]

We know how the system works, he's saying it's dumb. And I'm inclined to agree. If someone is threatening me, I shouldn't have to wait for my ship to read his social security code and get his fingerprints before I'm allowed to defend myself.

You don't HAVE to wait...however shooting at someone without knowing who you are shooting at could have consequences.

 

[akaliel]

You don't HAVE to wait...however shooting at someone without knowing who you are shooting at could have consequences.

My question is how do the police know? You're in a haz and a half dozen cops are shooting at a wanted anaconda. You join in the fray, and get fined. Because you didn't scan first. How does that questioning work?

Police:. "You shot at him."
Me:. "So were you!!!"
Police:. "But we knew he was wanted, you didn't."
Me:. "He WAS wanted!"
Police: "But you didn't know that."
Me: "You were shooting at him!"

And this questioning would have to happen after they turned and started shooting at you. Because you're wanted now too.

 

[cmdr_Havalok]

My question is how do the police know? You're in a haz and a half dozen cops are shooting at a wanted anaconda. You join in the fray, and get fined. Because you didn't scan first. How does that questioning work?

Police:. "You shot at him."
Me:. "So were you!!!"
Police:. "But we knew he was wanted, you didn't."
Me:. "He WAS wanted!"
Police: "But you didn't know that."
Me: "You were shooting at him!"

And this questioning would have to happen after they turned and started shooting at you. Because you're wanted now too.

The Locals also belong to factions that might be at WAR. They could be shooting at someone that is not WANTED and you just shot a CLEAN ship...but in the end this is how the game works. You have understand and accept this. I'm not trying to be flippant. You want realism but there are limits.

 

[Joril]

You don't HAVE to wait...however shooting at someone without knowing who you are shooting at could have consequences.

This has more to do with how the system is programmed than any high minded lore reason.
This isn't Schrodinger's bounty. Either you're wanted or you're not, the scan doesn't, and shouldn't, change anything.