Engineers ED in danger of being nicknamed EG (Extreme Grind)

Dalek zeg

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I have upgraded to patch 2.1 (engineers) and on the face of it, it is brilliant. The various new interfaces for outfitting and missions,
great improvement. On the subject of missions, the reward level much more realistic now given the cost to buy and outfit new ships.
However, I think some parameters need resetting, especially for the bounty missions. I have taken on three so far since Friday 27th
and it is becoming plain to me that they are basically unplayable. To give an example. I took one on today at 1430.
The mission was to destroy 24 Pirates in the Caspatsuria system. At the time of posting this, it is now 1600. In that time I have found and destroy just one. I have tried searching in super cruise and dropped into USS's and all I have found is 'Wanted' Pirates but just the one 'mission specific' target. I find this unacceptable, I can't be glued to my PC for 24 hours a day, which is what I would need to do to kill 24 pirates. Is this just me or is there some other criteria I am missing to complete the missions in a more reasonable time.
Also the Data delivery missions are a bit flaky. I have had several, where I have delivered on time to the correct system and star port but no acknowledgement and payment at the end of it.
 

Shadowdancer

Shadowdancer
Couldn't you join one of the other whinefests? You absolutely had to open your own?

(Yes, I'm judging your thing by the subject. If you don't want that, don't write troll subjects and at least have the appearance of being a productive member of the community.)
 

Cmdr Travers

Cmdr Travers
Shadowdancer said:
Couldn't you join one of the other whinefests? You absolutely had to open your own?
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Just because you disagree with someone, there's no excuse to be rude to them!

I happen to agree that while "grind" is an important and necessary aspect of the game. Often it is taken too far. We don't all want to spend three full months of solid gameplay, getting an FSD Engineer upgrade,
 

dutchy2000

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Dalek zeg said:
I have upgraded to patch 2.1 (engineers) and on the face of it, it is brilliant. The various new interfaces for outfitting and missions,
great improvement. On the subject of missions, the reward level much more realistic now given the cost to buy and outfit new ships.
However, I think some parameters need resetting, especially for the bounty missions. I have taken on three so far since Friday 27th
and it is becoming plain to me that they are basically unplayable. To give an example. I took one on today at 1430.
The mission was to destroy 24 Pirates in the Caspatsuria system. At the time of posting this, it is now 1600. In that time I have found and destroy just one. I have tried searching in super cruise and dropped into USS's and all I have found is 'Wanted' Pirates but just the one 'mission specific' target. I find this unacceptable, I can't be glued to my PC for 24 hours a day, which is what I would need to do to kill 24 pirates. Is this just me or is there some other criteria I am missing to complete the missions in a more reasonable time.
Also the Data delivery missions are a bit flaky. I have had several, where I have delivered on time to the correct system and star port but no acknowledgement and payment at the end of it.
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Your title is a little of putting, but if the target system you are in trying to find the pirates has a res, go there, they will spawn much more regularly. I am doing one for 11 and I have found 6 so far (all anacondas and fdls and pythons). I am flying an asp, its interesting fights to say the least. But its actually not any different from kill the pirates missions before. Hang out in super cruise and they will spawn, or a res if one is available.
 

Tom Melegaris

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Time to call the "Doctor."

I completed two kill pirates missions yesterday, there was Plenty of time to complete them. Go scan the system's Nav Beacon that has been suggested before, it helps to locate system mission objectives, NPCs, and items.
 
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Zallibik

Zallibik
Cmdr Travers said:
Just because you disagree with someone, there's no excuse to be rude to them!

I happen to agree that while "grind" is an important and necessary aspect of the game. Often it is taken too far. We don't all want to spend three full months of solid gameplay, getting an FSD Engineer upgrade,
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if it takes you 3 months to get a FSD upgrade you are obviously doing something wrong.
 

geoffrey.hdt

geoffrey.hdt
+1

I am fine to keep the existing grindy mechanism since apparently some players are fine with that.

But may we please get some epic stuff to do, high risk, high reward as an alternate way to proceed?
 

Devlin-Darkside

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The title made me laugh so I popped in for a look.

I'm loving the new graphics to much at the moment to really bother with the rest of it.

Yea its more grinding but to be honest if I was in charge I really don't know what else I would do with the game.

I would give storage of course but the rest of it? What could you put in that some people wouldn't call it grinding?
 

Steve50

Steve50
Grinders:- If you insist on playing the game in an un-fun way don't be surprised when you look around and realize you're not having any fun.
 

StiTch

StiTch
There are plenty of posts that articulate the point better without complaining about "grinding", but +1 rep because the title is far funnier to me than it should be. *chuckles*
 

House0fDerp

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Steve50 said:
Grinders:- If you insist on playing the game in an un-fun way don't be surprised when you look around and realize you're not having any fun.
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At what point does a goal oriented player become a "grinder?"
And what happens when features of the game you might want to play with can't be fully done within the parts of the game you actually enjoy?
 

xXR34P3RXx

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In danger of?

tbqh, this game has had this reputation of being one of the worst grinds in video game history for a long time now.

it's WELL past the point of being "In danger"
 

Dalek zeg

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Ok I apologise if that was the impression I gave there. It wasn't intended. It was absolute frustration at sitting on my pc for 4 hours to kill 24 pirates and only accessing
a lousy 4 or so of them in that time. Surely that has to be changed back to the frequency of appearances of 'mission specific targets' that was in place before 2.1.
It just isn't playable at the rate that is set now. The kills appear much more difficult now which I don't have the slightest problem with. That is the way it should be but
let us please have targets to go for.
 
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