Yes, that's the narrative they tend to promote that all of us parked on SA are hate mongers. Yet, these are the same folks parked on a hate-Red (/r/dereksmart/) and throwing stones.
The final collapse is well underway.
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Yes, that's the narrative they tend to promote that all of us parked on SA are hate mongers. Yet, these are the same folks parked on a hate-Red (/r/dereksmart/) and throwing stones.
The final collapse is well underway.
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Ohh yeah many new Space games around....tried this one /Fractured Space/if you didn't,I really enjoyed so far even if is it early access(alpha) ...and it's 100%Free2Playhttp://store.steampowered.com/app/310380/
Done in Unreal 4....
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This thread is about Star Citizen, but you "sc backers" keep dragging me and my games into it.
OK I'll bite.
http://gcommo.com site is still there
In 2009, after shipping All Aspect Warfare & Angle Of Attack, the industry had changed. And I decided not to do another niche complex game in such a risky climate.
So I came up with and designed Line Of Defense - my current project
Knowing that I still had a dedicated following for my niche games, in 2015 I refreshed, patched and released the 2009 Universal Combat CE v2.0 for free on Steam for a limited time only in order to gauge interest.
It was surprising to me how many people were still interested in that sort of complex game. Especially since, to date, the Battlecruiser / Universal Combat games, still remain the de facto capital ship space combat games.
So I branched off the code and came up with Universal Combat The Lyrius Conflict (single player only) which would be tweaks, bug fixes and a 100% graphics overhaul, while leaving the underlying tech in-tact. I got it Valve approved, and released it on Steam Early Access.
Though both LOD and UCTLC are in development (previously LOD and LOD Tactics were in development tandem, until LOD Tactics shipped on all platforms last year), my long term plan is to roll out LOD, complete UCTLC, then release an MMO hybrid (similar to LOD) as Galactic Command Online. GCO would retain all the complexity of the BC/UC games, unlike LOD which has none of that - and is not a cap ship type game.
That's how planning and risk management work. You know, when you don't have $114 million of other people's money to burn with impunity.
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I know that reading comprehension is not a very common skill in this thread, but... did you missed the last few hundred pages of people calling it a scam, how SC will fail, almost as if they wish that would happen?Now a TOS deadline is a thing here. Info for you, that is another part of Smarts Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt campaign. No even outside of the Smartie circle even cares about that.
He can't. But I can.
http://www.dereksmart.org/forums/topic/star-citizen-tos-v1-1-expiration/#post-2322
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Wait until tomorrow June 1st.
Reply, while citing the relevant sections in ToS v1.2. Ask for both a i) refund and ii) financial accountability - both promised by the ToS you agreed to, while citing the sections of the ToS.
Save all request and response emails. Use them in your FTC/BBB complaints.
STAR CITIZEN TOS:
http://www.dereksmart.org/forums/topic/star-citizen-tos-v1-1-expiration/#post-2322
HOW TO GET A REFUND & REPORT THEM:
http://www.dereksmart.org/forums/topic/star-citizen-tos-v1-1-expiration/#post-2778
Please, please ignore him. There is no adhesion contract. And there are so many case laws on specifically that, I don't even want to bother quoting them.
The ToS that was in place when you agreed, is what you are subject to. End of story. NO company can make you agreed to an updated ToS if you didn't agree to it.
Of the top of my head, look up the Blockbuster and Zappos case laws. There's more.
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I actually setup a handy clock timer earlier this month
https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/727199377031352320
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Derek What's your opinion on how CIG is going to try to make us sign new TOS?Are they going to do with some of the latest game ver. releases(2.4) maybe soon as we download?Or maybe sending us an important mail???What do you think?....
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They have 4 (CA, TX, GER, UK) and 15 corporate entities associated with them
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Angels Fall First. Also by a team of part-time modders
http://store.steampowered.com/app/367270/
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Even when I had a publisher (up to 2008), all my games was self-funded; with the publisher paying for marketing, distribution etc. I value my independence above everything else.
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There is no opinion, I already know how they are going to do it, because I have been told. And I have already shared it.
Assuming they actually do as I've heard, it's going to get rolled out as part of the official 2.4 release. That's why they have more people (pulled off SQ42) back on the PU in order to get it stable, bugs fixed etc, so that more people can get access to it.
They can't send an important mail for that. They will do it as they have done in the past. You will login to your account - and there it will be presented.
I have already advised people to take screen shots because unless there is an option to disagree; or the option to opt-out, it's 100% NOT LEGALLY BINDING.
And as long as you don't agree to it - and you had access to the game services up to that point - you are only subject to the 1.2 version
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Hey Thx for sharing with us in here all the details......that's kind what I was expecting it.....
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Looking forward to trying this myself. Thanks for posting relevant info and will gladly post results one way or another here.
@ 1500 Sorry to say but you are incorrect also...
Star Citizen has 4 dedicated studios.
Cloud Imperium Games Corporation Foundry 42
1) LOS ANGELES, CA 3) Frankfurt, Germany
2) AUSTIN, Tx 4) Manchester, United Kingdom
They also enlist the aid from 6 independent contractors (outsourced contractors) : Behaviour Interactive, Turbulent, CGBot, Incan Monkey God Studios, Massive Black, Conley Swofford Media
As to why they have 4 dedicated studios and 6 outsourced contractors, pretty simple really, this is a AAA game being developed, not some Derek Smart title. It's all about talent. Its actually pretty common now for games to be worked on across multiple studios. Most companies outsource to third party studios, but some of the bigger ones just have many internal studios, some studios like CIG have both.
Lets talk about the Frankfort Studio. Crytek laid off a bunch of people, Chris Roberts had the genius idea of offering them a place to work so they wouldn't have to move and would be able to better implement some of the massive engine changes that are needed for the games continued development. The Frankfort Studio has lots of people with in depth Cryengine know how, after all that is where the Cryengine was developed. Talent, plain and simple.
As far as the UK studio: The UK has massive tax deductions for game studios. Because of this, its actually the largest studio because the money goes a lot further there. And again talent!
Bottom line, Star Citizen has many very talented developers working for them, including ex-crytek employees.
As far as 1 million backers, with 114,683,909 dollars raised that 1 million backer number is probabally close to the truth.
As to your last statement that CIG has no momentum, that's laughable. I am going to be nice and say, you really don't know what you are talking about. You and I can't see what is going on behind the scenes of Squadron 42 because that's intentional.
I'm going to need an even bigger Lulzbucket.
Mr Smart may have not released games to your taste, but he has actually released them. That is neither here nor there though - what matters is what CIG have actually released. What have they actually released? It may be a great game someday, in the not too distant future, but at the moment I certainly couldn't call it a great game. An endlessly reworked pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-Alpha perhaps.
The sad thing is that they have (and had) many talented people working for them, yet at every opportunity leadership says "Not up to our standards, rework it" and it goes back to the beginning.
Mr Smart may have not released games to your taste, but he has actually released them. That is neither here nor there though - what matters is what CIG have actually released. What have they actually released? It may be a great game someday, in the not too distant future, but at the moment I certainly couldn't call it a great game. An endlessly reworked pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-Alpha perhaps.
The sad thing is that they have (and had) many talented people working for them, yet at every opportunity leadership says "Not up to our standards, rework it" and it goes back to the beginning.
I've been playing ED with a game pad since Alpha 1, and it has been great for me. With the recent(ish) addition of button modifiers, I only ever have to use the keyboard to type. HOTAS and mouse and keyboard are both difficult for me, since all HOTAS I know of are right handed, and I learned to mouse with my right hand not my left. I don't think I had mouse look enabled, because I didn't use the mouse!
Generally pretty well, although fuel scooping from a star up is ridiculous, as I said many times over the years. The advantage of making a 1:1 scale model of the Galaxy is that the physics falls naturally into place, giving orbital motions, eclipses etc. easily. I think the Stellar Forge missed out black holes in the beginning, recycling too much material into later stars, leading to them to need more dust to make it look right. The scientist in me would like the to make everything again, including black holes from the start, but that ain't ever going to happen!
Also, some people think that orbital mechanics are more realistic, as seen in KSP. In reality, we only stick to certain orbits, or slingshot around planets because current fuel is heavy and inefficient. If we had fusion engines, then we could basically go wherever we like.
People have been disappointed by and critical of CIG and SC for years, long before Derek Smart's infamous articles. I backed SC in early 2014, and was hugely disappointed by Arena Commander. I have long criticised their monetisation model, not so much the ship rewards themselves, but the continual drive for money, including the revolting referral program, that has led to a spiral of mismanagement. A responsible company would have stopped taking funding when they had enough to make the game they had planned. They would then be able to plan project properly, with constraints. Instead CIG expand the game to meet backer cash flow, resulting in huge wastage.
I think they should have built up the SC universe over several games, increasing in scope as the team got more experience, and the fan base would follow. Instead CR got greedy, and deluded, saying he would make the equivalent of 4 AAA games for less than the price of one.
My main interest was SQ42, which I saw as a spiritual successor to Wing Commander, and a narrative experience that ED would never deliver. However, this has also become much less appealing as I learn more about it. It was clear that Mark Hamill was into it, but Gary Oldman looked confused and apathetic in his interview, and his speech was diabolical.
I would love SC to be good, and will not ask for a refund (I am an optimist and have seen glimmers of promise). A lot of Comcerned Citizens come from he same place, and are not SC haters. We focus on criticising particular disappointments (flight models, delays, reworkings).
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What is Rule 9? (justification for thread closure)
I had a cyborg evo joystick for about £25 that was passable with a base mounted throttle, it had a removable flip over palm-rest so it could be configured for left or right. The micro-switches and exposed main spring were rubbish though.
Does anyone know how last nights star citizen launch party went ?.
Sofar i'm not impressed with the fun factor in SC; I got annoyed with the blackout mechanic and got annoyed again with the griefers in the mini PU. But seeing the progress of the game's development i'm confident they will release something fun in the end. And if not, i don't really care... there's always something else fun to play.
I've backed because i really like the multiplayer-ships bit and having the ability to walk around in a ship.
But i've also backed ED and love it for what it is; I don't take sides, because there is no need to: I can play both.
ED has a brilliant interface and the flight system is as such that it makes it a lot of fun to fly, but i think the game lacks interesting content for the long run. Hopefully that will come in time.
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A Logitech 3d pro might work OK too. It's not ambidextrous but its not drastically biased.
Thought I'd say something about accepting ToS as I used to work for an evil US company. This information is 10 years old so things have probably changed. In the US there was no need for people to see/scroll through the ToS for them to be accepted. Just have a link to them (it could be tiny). So the websites generally hid them in tiny text somewhere odd behind an equally tiny link. AS an aside, they also used to send a $75 cheques to people along with a a free gift. The ToS were on the back in tiny writing and said that if you cashed the cheque you agreed to paying the company $25 a month for 1 year.
Fortunately in the EU this wasn't legal.
So I suspect for US users CiG can just make it so that if they log in they accept the new ToS but that won't work in the EU.
But I suspect they'll just update them and expect people to accept them. In reality there aren't that many people complaining (rightly or wrongly) are there?
Fortunately in the EU this wasn't legal.
So I suspect for US users CiG can just make it so that if they log in they accept the new ToS but that won't work in the EU.
But I suspect they'll just update them and expect people to accept them. In reality there aren't that many people complaining (rightly or wrongly) are there?
It should be mentioned that having studios across two big time zones is a significant advantage in terms of development time, if managed correctly.
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