I will keep bringing this up after every expansion is released. Sorry to be annoying but....

[anikaiful]

In what way is your immersion damaged if someone else can make a 2nd CMDR? You wouldn't even know it is the 2nd CMDR slot of someone.

If someone else can make one, I have no qualms with that- but if *I* am given such an option, I will cry foul - *I* do want to have only one, and only one, and an option to have more would be... horrid. I know I would use the 2nd cmdr to bring on havoc - and having 2nd cmdr like that, I'd do so w/o impunity - my primary would not be affected, my rep would remain untarnished...

 

[Commandr Sam]

I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm Dangerous rank and I still get interdirected by Harmless/Mostly Harmless ships. And I have not seen any prof or official word that enemies scale on your combat rank. Combat rank only gives you access to higher end missions as far as I now

Last night was the first since the patch I went actively looking for "trouble" I was interdicted a few times (all in low security systems) and all were dangerous or above ranked. In a d rated sidey this may not be much fun. I was flying a python at the time so I don't know if interdictors (is that a word?) are dependent on the ship you fly or combat ranking, but I assumed the later.

- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -

If someone else can make one, I have no qualms with that- but if *I* am given such an option, I will cry foul - *I* do want to have only one, and only one, and an option to have more would be... horrid. I know I would use the 2nd cmdr to bring on havoc - and having 2nd cmdr like that, I'd do so w/o impunity - my primary would not be affected, my rep would remain untarnished...

So it would give you a chance to experience the game a different way, surely that is a good thing?

 

[anikaiful]

So it would give you a chance to experience the game a different way, surely that is a good thing?

For me, yes... for other people not necessarily so... I prefer that we have to stick to one persona instead of having ability to willynilly do stupid/reckless/bannable things with a disposable secondary/tertiary/whateverinary.

I've experienced the game tho as a bounty hunter, wannabe-pirate, miner, explorer, trucker... Having just one 'persona' lets me experience all that - I don't need "alts" to switch 'profession' at my leisure. I see them alts just a venue to induce more trolling.

 

[Dakron Nova]

I have some sympathy for the OP request.

Glad I could help.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

For me, yes... for other people not necessarily so... I prefer that we have to stick to one persona instead of having ability to willynilly do stupid/reckless/bannable things with a disposable secondary/tertiary/whateverinary.

the bannable thing is a good point, and i agree and has been a worry of mine in the past for those talking multiple slots

HOWEVER it is solvable by having it an account ban not a CMDR ban if a person chooses to ban a CMDR from their private group, it should actually ban their account, therefore problem solved on that front.
in open, well FD have kind of said, no such thing as griefing so long as you do not swear or use cheats.... even scratchybreasticles had his ban overturned iirc and he was about as annoying as they come, so, it kind of does not matter what their CMDR name is, aside from escaping KOS lists i guess.

 

[Commandr Sam]

For me, yes... for other people not necessarily so... I prefer that we have to stick to one persona instead of having ability to willynilly do stupid/reckless/bannable things with a disposable secondary/tertiary/whateverinary.

I've experienced the game tho as a bounty hunter, wannabe-pirate, miner, explorer, trucker... Having just one 'persona' lets me experience all that - I don't need "alts" to switch 'profession' at my leisure. I see them alts just a venue to induce more trolling.

I see the problem with people using throw away commanders to bother other players, but that can be done just as easily now with a second account.

My aim is to start again as a bounty hunter/mission runner in the low level ships trying all of them. I cannot do this due to my combat rating without reseting my Commander which would mean dumping all the time I have put into my current commander.

 

[anikaiful]

the bannable thing is a good point, and i agree and has been a worry of mine in the past for those talking new accounts

HOWEVER it is solvable by having it an account ban not a CMDR ban if a person chooses to ban a CMDR from their private group, it should actually ban their account, therefore problem solved on that front.
in open, well FD have kind of said, no such thing as griefing so long as you do not swear or use cheats.... even scratchybreasticles had his ban overturned iirc and he was about as annoying as they come, so, it kind of does not matter what their CMDR name is, aside from escaping KOS lists i guess.

If a ban covers whole account... ah no, all accounts which one's ever made - then certain. Explorers, as far as I've experienced, do feel bangs of home sickness at times and want to take a peek at what's going on closer to "home" - that in itself is one thing what speaks "yes" to secondary alt, if temporary. But unless repercussions of actions are not felt across the whole board, then no, no alts.

 

[Digs]

I see the problem with people using throw away commanders to bother other players, but that can be done just as easily now with a second account.

My aim is to start again as a bounty hunter/mission runner in the low level ships trying all of them. I cannot do this due to my combat rating without reseting my Commander which would mean dumping all the time I have put into my current commander.

Actually the fact that you have to buy a second account would put most griefers off. If you can just create alts then it will just open a whole new can of worms regarding exploits, griefing and general arsehatery. I for one hope they never allow alts, your reputation should be carried with your name.

 

[Tokpastorn]

Well, the only time I've wanted to have 2nd cmdr slot (Even if for a brief moment) was when I was traveling the deep dark far away and felt a bang of "home sickness".

Yeah, this is how i ended up with a second account.
I also want to think that one commander per account reinforces better behaviour, not 100% sure on that one though.

 

[Unfluffydave]

Actually the fact that you have to buy a second account would put most griefers off. If you can just create alts then it will just open a whole new can of worms regarding exploits, griefing and general arsehatery. I for one hope they never allow alts, your reputation should be carried with your name.

There is an easy way to avoid players creating throwaway characters for spying, griefing etc. Have a cooldown between character creation and character deletion, have ignore functions work for entire accounts, have bans work for entire accounts are a couple of solutions. The thing is, while players are willingly buying second accounts what is the motivation for FD to give us multiple characters, in fact it is probably going to open a can of worms with people crying for refunds on second accounts because they are suddenly allowed extra characters on one account. Not only will FD lose out on income from sales they would lose again on refunds.

 

[anikaiful]

I also want to think that one commander per account reinforces better behaviour, not 100% sure on that one though.

At least in theory behavior is easier to keep in check with just one cmdr.

- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -

There is an easy way to avoid players creating throwaway characters for spying, griefing etc. Have a cooldown between character creation and character deletion, have ignore functions work for entire accounts, have bans work for entire accounts are a couple of solutions. The thing is, while players are willingly buying second accounts what is the motivation for FD to give us multiple characters, in fact it is probably going to open a can of worms with people crying for refunds on second accounts because they are suddenly allowed extra characters on one account. Not only will FD lose out on income from sales they would lose again on refunds.

And why should such be refundable? Not in my country nor by the law. You buy it, you deal with it, if something changes later - you've got to live with it.

Like Marcus says in Borderlands - "No refunds, to me it seems to work perfectly" (after trying the gun that was supposedly 'defunct' and shooting refund asker to leg with it... working perfectly).

 

[Tokpastorn]

At least in theory behavior is easier to keep in check with just one cmdr.

Yeah, in theory. I wonder if multiple commanders would increase the frequency of which 20% hull Eagles crash into my ship while docking at every CG

 

[Para Handy]

WHY CAN WE NOT HAVE MULTIPLE COMMANDERS!!!!!!!

.

Of course you can, buy another account - or in your case buy Horizons for your second account - oh look you do have multiple commanders already!


[rolleyes]

 

[anikaiful]

Yeah, in theory. I wonder if multiple commanders would increase the frequency of which 20% hull Eagles crash into my ship while docking at every CG

For a few days/weeks, yes - the number would go thro the roof Because™. It'd settle down after a while tho - fixes and all that jazz, more workload for FDev....

 

[JosiahD]

WHY CAN WE NOT HAVE MULTIPLE COMMANDERS!!!!!!!

The thing is I'm a bit bored of elite. It is a great game and I have invested a massive amount of time and effort into it. However, the most fun I have had with the game lately was in the Engineers beta. It was great because I cleared my save and started again safe in the knowledge my "primary" commander was still alive and well in his alternate universe. The thing is I'm not willing to clear my main commander in the real world. I have done it before but at a much earlier stage which was fine. Why should I just erase all my hard work?

I do not know why multiple commanders cannot exist in the same game world. They will never be online together. FD can make sure of that with a software tweak. It works just fine in other games, MMO or otherwise.

For me the Engineers update was a major one. The game has in effect been overhauled in many areas for the better. Of course my primary commander exists quite happily in this new universe but I'm a bit fed up of having to adapt him to every new update. I will still play this commander from time to time as he has a tonne of cash, giving me certain freedoms to try different things. Also it sounds terribly cliched but my commander has some great history behind him. Yes I know it is not documented anywhere but in my head and occasionally on these forums but it is still a part of my character that I do not want to just kill off to make way for a new bod.

That is why I want to create a new hero but still preserve my old one. Sadly, as it stands I probably won't play elite as much as I would like now, (though Warhammer Total War has not helped this!!).

Please FD sort this out. I love elite and want to keep playing it for a long time.

ps. I have bought another copy of elite when it was on sale but that really is a rubbish solution as it does not contain the Horizons expansion.

A lot of people won't agree and will wave around rubbish like it'll be used to avoid player bounty hunters for example, while the bounties time out (they already can via solo or private group of course.....but let's ignore that because it's inconvenient to arguing against multiple slots shall we?). However, I agree wholeheartedly that we should have the multiple CMDR slots as proposed during early development. The idea that a MINORITY of CMDRs might abuse it is not a legitimate reason, in my opinion, to not implement it given a LOT of CMDRs would benefit from it in a variety of ways...... Now, if there's a coding or data storage reason for Frontier that might be different but I struggle to see how that could be the case as it should be solvable.

 

[shadragon]

You can: Get a second account.

I found three is the magic number. Used to be a bit of a pain updating three installs, but Frontier have sorted that out nicely in the last patch.

 

[anikaiful]

I found three is the magic number.

Everything comes in threes. I leave the reference to be found by anyone interested.

 

[Leper Messiah]

If someone else can make one, I have no qualms with that- but if *I* am given such an option, I will cry foul - *I* do want to have only one, and only one, and an option to have more would be... horrid. I know I would use the 2nd cmdr to bring on havoc - and having 2nd cmdr like that, I'd do so w/o impunity - my primary would not be affected, my rep would remain untarnished...

easy solution, only one commander can go in open, all other commander slots are solo only.

 

[anikaiful]

easy solution, only one commander can go in open, all other commander slots are solo only.

That puts up one recent problem tho, parking. It's nigh impossible to find a parking slot at some engineers unless you switch mode. That fixes itself over time, ay - but right now "to park = switch mode".

 

[Siranui]

There is an easy way to avoid players creating throwaway characters for spying, griefing etc. Have a cooldown between character creation and character deletion, have ignore functions work for entire accounts, have bans work for entire accounts are a couple of solutions. The thing is, while players are willingly buying second accounts what is the motivation for FD to give us multiple characters, in fact it is probably going to open a can of worms with people crying for refunds on second accounts because they are suddenly allowed extra characters on one account. Not only will FD lose out on income from sales they would lose again on refunds.

An *EASY* solution? You want FD to do all that coding, and think it's an easy solution? :O
Why? There's nothing in it for them. They would be investing time for...nothing. Nothing but complaints. Not that they're obliged in any way to refund customers.

No: An easy solution is for people who want a second CMDR enough to go and spend £25 quid or whatever it is for another copy. Job done!