Money for nothing,
And chicks for free.
And chicks for free.
I will keep bringing this up after every expansion is released. Sorry to be annoying but....
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Don't know what exactly you were responding to...but i second that!
As for me...I broke down and got a second Commander
There is almost no repercussions to seal clubbing nubcakes in Eravate, so why exactly would people need alts to do it? Your reputation matters very little when you have things like instancing, solo, and private groups keeping everybody separated at all times. Also how is encouraging people to buy second accounts going to help? I could buy a second account and do nothing but stomp people all day and combat log, and guess what, this wouldn't be traceable to my main account, so even if you take the silly "reputation" thing into account, this entire argument is hot garbage and doesn't help anybody.
And WHY ON EARTH are we encouraging Frontier to not add quality of life improvements to this game? If I play solo and I'm out exploring across the galaxy, I have literally no choice but to self destruct my ship or wipe my save to get back to the bubble if I want to do some trading or bounty hunt or fiddle with engineers or whatever it is that I want to do. Why? What does this add to the game but needless frustration? Both multiplayer and singleplayer games have multiple character slots, so I can't wrap my head around the mental gymnastics required to justify forcing players to stick to only one character.
And no, telling players to buy a second copy of the game is completely bogus and makes you a poor consumer that literally encourages them to not improve the game. It is Frontier's choice to not add little things like this to improve a player's experience, and it's my choice to not throw money at them. I would have honestly rather them add multiple character slots than the glorified upgrade shop that Engineers are.
And WHY ON EARTH are we encouraging Frontier to not add quality of life improvements to this game? If I play solo and I'm out exploring across the galaxy, I have literally no choice but to self destruct my ship or wipe my save to get back to the bubble if I want to do some trading or bounty hunt or fiddle with engineers or whatever it is that I want to do. Why? What does this add to the game but needless frustration? Both multiplayer and singleplayer games have multiple character slots, so I can't wrap my head around the mental gymnastics required to justify forcing players to stick to only one character.
And no, telling players to buy a second copy of the game is completely bogus and makes you a poor consumer that literally encourages them to not improve the game. It is Frontier's choice to not add little things like this to improve a player's experience, and it's my choice to not throw money at them. I would have honestly rather them add multiple character slots than the glorified upgrade shop that Engineers are.
Quite.
- I was told "yes" during the KS
- I was told "yes" during pre-alpha
- I was told "we're having problems" some time later
- Now it's on the back burner
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Remember how E: D was funded by a kickstarter and has no major developer backing them? And no monthly sub? Purchasing a second commander and items from the E-Store is one of the few ways they have to keep generating income. So when you purchase a second commander you are funding them to keep developing the game which is good not bad.
I'm a poor consumer because my consumer goals (spending development time on actual improvements to the game instead of doing something else because other people don't value the game enough to buy another copy?) don't align with your desires? No, I don't think so!
No; I'm a poor consumer because I'm running 1.6, which I got for a tenner in the Steam sale. [squeeeee]
"Multiple" may be a tad far. Two? Yeah, I can totally get behind it. I suppose from FDs perspective it's more work than it seems for something that technically breaks immersion.
And this is reason number one, or at least the main reason. Some of the content in this game has to be worked at for a while. And it keeps the "reset junkies" happy.
And this is reason number one, or at least the main reason. Some of the content in this game has to be worked at for a while. And it keeps the "reset junkies" happy.
Breaks immersion ? ROFL
If you're really that terrified that FD is going to go bankrupt and stop developing the game, then fine, keep flushing your money at them for things that other games provide as a "duh, why wouldn't we include this?" feature. I value my money and if they're going to keep shoveling broken updates into the game and refusing to add little things like this that vastly improve the game, then I'll just go spend my money on something else. You owe Frontier nothing, and I most certainly know that I don't either. I enjoyed their game but if they're going to stagnate and try to nickle and dime me for things that other games take for granted, then I'll just go play something else.
You can do that with one character slot, if your mind is on trolling.
Still waiting.
I think the agreement here is that this is a good idea.
FD take note it is these small quality of life changes that keep your loyal customers happy.
FD take note it is these small quality of life changes that keep your loyal customers happy.
Works for some but isn't a universal "law" ... Frankly I couldn't care less about any pilot I have ever had as to me it's just a game - a means to pass the time. I am not a real pilot flying through the Elite universe I am playing a game. As such, whilst I understand what you said your words are hollow to me .. I have no attachment, and I am not alone.
Slightly off topic but Liqua, with all the money you put into this game how many commanders do you have?
Yes, Liqua. Glad to know you aren't text-deaf (term patent pending). If you're coming from a RP perspective, if you are stuck out in deep space in your beloved ship as a CMDR and then suddenly you poof to Sol in your battle corvette, it's breaking immersion. Bring something to the board next time and not just puerile mockery.
Agreed, but not necessarily "small" to implement without bugs in the midst of the rest of the bugs they're trying to iron out
The dev process for this game is I imagine quite intense.
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Yes, Liqua. Glad to know you aren't text-deaf. If you're coming from a RP perspective, if you are stuck out in deep space in your beloved ship as a CMDR and then suddenly you poof to Sol in your battle corvette, it's breaking immersion. Bring something to the board next time and not just puerile mockery.
Agreed, but not necessarily "small" to implement without bugs in the midst of the rest of the bugs they're trying to iron out
It should be small, they have charcer creation all it needs is interface for switching between. If it is going to be a storage problem then FD have bigger issues to be looking at if tey are cutting things that fine.
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Storage isn't usually an issue for anything that can be represented by text/characters etc. Things like images/textures/sound/video and the like normally kill storage.
I've worked in basic development though and where one person sees "oh just add in a menu that lets you swap something in", the dev sees "has to recreate and bug test entire interface and back working for how CMDR data is synced with server"-which as an example could go disastrously wrong if not implemented correctly, especially with the current bugs around. Not saying that's the issue they actually have, or that it's undoable, but these things are unfortunately seldom "put a quick option in".
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Agreed i should have used the phrase "relatively small" as opposed to something like PP which lots of dev time was used on which no-one wanted ;p
Looks better than a Conda
What I'm saying is: you pay to have an account supporting 1 CMDR. Now players want another account for free. And they argue: FD your players want this, make it happen.
And it's just amusing reading how they justify getting an account for free
PP was an excellent, excellent idea...implemented really poorly. That once joined up to it means you've tied yourself to a slog to gain rep that decays relatively fast and are going to get assaulted by opposing factions regularly, it's usually better for your CMDR to stay out of it.
But anyway...this isn't a PP discussion thread
I actually DO want a second save, but that's because a) I want to try a game with myself and earn my way up through every ship in order, and b) because yes...I am a self confessed reset-o-holic. There's nothing more exciting than the early to mid stages of a character's lifetime...But certainly don't feel FD should be obliged to in any way. We already get it easy from them a lot of the time.
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Looks better than a Conda
What I'm saying is: you pay to have an account supporting 1 CMDR. Now players want another account for free. And they argue: FD your players want this, make it happen.
And it's just amusing reading how they justify getting an account for free
Everyone here has paid for an account we are asking for nothing for free.
To clarify when i backed pre-alpha the DDF stated multiple commanders and an ironman mode. These are both promises that have been broken by FD.