General / Off-Topic Do you belive in the existence of intelligent alien life?

Do you belive in the existence of intelligent alien life?

  • Yes

    Votes: 70 77.8%
  • No

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 16 17.8%

  • Total voters
    90
I think a grain of sand on the beach in Whitehaven Beach - Australia, using a Walk Talk will never be able to communicate with another grain of sand on the beach of Porto da Barra, Salvador - Brazil that communicates through the whatsapp.
 

Minonian

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I think a grain of sand on the beach in Whitehaven Beach - Australia, using a Walk Talk will never be able to communicate with another grain of sand on the beach of Porto da Barra, Salvador - Brazil that communicates through the whatsapp.

The ting about any kind of proof of extraterrestrial intelligence, what i mentioned earlier. We can't get any unintentional radio signal because in terms of stellar distances they are just too damn weak to reach this far, no matter how close they are to us. And since they are too struggling with this problem, they are not going to direct toward us a targeted signal, which is strong enough to reach us. Not by our current level of technology anway.

IF we are able to pick up the radio distortions from i don't know? A super gas giant storms from lets say 1000 LY away than we might have a chance to get an alien radio signal. Otherwise? forget about it!

I'm a pagan who embraces science and willing to entertain the idea of intelligent life beyond our own world ;)

Now that's an interesting motion a naturalistic woman who worships in the same time to nature and to his spirits, and also "worships" to technology and science. A little bit of contradiction, but well? So am i! :D
Anway what do you meant in paganism? Because there are a lot of paganistic lore. The old druidistic cults just one of the many.
 
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Either we are alone in the universe or we are not, both are equally terrifying

as for me, yes I believe they exist, why? well, out of all the billions of systems and planets, I find it almost impossible to believe life only exists on one. If our planet was in the exact situation for life to develop then why not on other planets? are we so arrogant to believe it couldn't happen elsewhere?
 
Now that's an interesting motion a naturalistic woman who worships in the same time to nature and to his spirits, and also "worships" to technology and science. A little bit of contradiction, but well? So am i! :D

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I wouldn't say I "worship" technology and science, I just accept them in my life.

Anway what do you meant in paganism? Because there are a lot of paganistic lore. The old druidistic cults just one of the many.

Specifically, I am Wiccan. It's a matter of personal faith and belief that I don't try to impose on anyone else.

Back on track with little green men...

I think it's very likely that alien life may have been, and maybe still, perceived as the divine. I've always loved that quote from Asimov:

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

If alien life has stepped beyond the boundary of the physical, then it's anyone's guess!
 
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Given the size of the known Universe, its almost a mathematical impossibility for there to not be other Intelligent life.
 
I voted maybe, more leaning towards a yes, but as others said we'll never know, but it's statistically possible. I mean we havn't even got out of our solar system yet and there's other galaxies out there, who knows what in 'em, for all we know this galaxy formed with very little of the key ingredients for life and another galaxy may have been swamped and thus is FULL of life.
 
Does that mean David Braben is an alien? oh my ! Braben IS a thargoid

If Braben is an example of alien life then we are in a lot of trouble.

Alien: 'OK Humans, we're just going to take all your oxygen for a short time while we do a little adjusting. You'll just have to put up with things in the mean time, we're sitting pretty and there's nothing you can do'.
 
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The thing I find amusing is if they did go to war with us our petty religious issues wont matter to them as all they will see is human beings no matter the creed or persuasion.

Its about time we kept that in mind.
 

Minonian

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Specifically, I am Wiccan. It's a matter of personal faith and belief that I don't try to impose on anyone else.
In this case let me show you my cards. (No im not a wiccan or everything else, but i also know a few things about this matter.) A few? :D Whom i'm trying to fool?
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I think it's very likely that alien life may have been, and maybe still, perceived as the divine. I've always loved that quote from Asimov:


Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Or knowledge. But you been mistaken. It's Arthur C Clarke Third law. ;)

Clarke's first law
When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

Clarke's second law
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

Clarke's third law
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

When you mentioned Asimov, i think you tough about these. Right? :)

  1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
  2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
  3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.
    0. A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
 
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Minonian

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I will give you a little help about me? (ok... not just a little, its another facet of the gem) ;)

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I believe when any civilization becomes sufficiently advanced, at least a portion of them transcend their biology mechanically. Perhaps there would be a few naturalists who would want to remain completely "biological" (I use quotes because it implies there's some important difference between squishy machines and metal machines) and forego the indefinite lifespans and hyperintelligence in favor of purity but I digress.
Human spacetravel, rather, biological space travel serves no purpose. By the time we get good at it we'll have advanced in other ways so far that we'll be able to build ourselves new, less fragile, bodies. Bodies we can replace when they wear out piece by piece. Bodies that don't need to breath, eat, have blood in a conventional sense or require any number of biological systems to support each other. Minds, artificial neural nets, actuators, capacitors, generators and with each part acting as part of a brain. This would progress into fogletism as an inevitability.

By the time we meet aliens they will essentially be the same thing as we are: hyperintelligent shapeshifting clouds of dust held together by lightning bolts. Space travel in any other form is impractical. I'm not hyperintelligent. No one is. I speculate, though, there is very little difference of opinion among the hyperintelligent (a good measurement is in 1 minute, you can put in 1000 minutes worth of thought). Not much cultural difference to share but history.

I also believe our telescopes are going to be good enough to eventually visually map planets within 15 or 20 ly (with relaying telescopes beyond the heliopause) and may discover evidence of cities and artificial heat. We may also develop equipment sensitive enough to intercept intelligent signals that will give us a direction to look in.

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