Im not sure if im on to something... but you know that ground rumbling noise the barns make? usually after a high pitch sound? well... i destroyed one of those big spires with the big green thing on it. The barn never made that noise again while it was near it...
UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn
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Hey there, i'm currently at work so no active searching from me, but i just got some time to make a quick mental recap of the things that happened.
I just did it for myself to think about, but i guess it can't hurt to post it, maybe someones brain makes a jump on it
What happened so far...
UA:
- According to the WINGS Trailer, the first UA was discovered in the California Nebula by Palin.
- Then, UAs were rarely found by players in convoys.
- The UA-Shell around Merope was discovered with UAs pointing to Merope star. This is nearly one year ago, and the shell did not change since then.
- Since then, no other UAs except those in the shell were found.
- Although the UA does not look like human tech, it's still possible that they are created by humans because of the morse code.
- UAs don't seem to be aggressive, but they seem to have some kind of selfdefense, or just an extreme radiation.
- They are scanning everything that comes near them.. why?
- They are morsing the name of the nearest celestial body and diagrams of scanned ships.. Why?
- Why they are pointing to Merope is not clear. We haven't found anything special about Merope yet. MB said, they are pointing there because they are supposed to. Because FD decided so? Or because of an ingame reason?
Conclusion: None
Barnacles:
- First discovered in the Pleiades Nebula
- They are supposed to be found in nebulae (according to MB)
- The nebulae they are found in relate to their origin (MB)
- They produce Meta Alloys and other rare minerals
- Meta Alloys are used to counteract the harms of UAs.
- They are a non natural lifeform, genetically created by someone. Why? To produce Meta Alloys?
- If Barnacles and UAs are connected somehow is not clear. At least, there are similarities (sound, particles)
- After they were massively harvested by players, someone put turrets beside them to defend them. The turrets are human tech, they have writings (numbers) on them.
- Recently, barnacles were discovered in the California Nebula.
- Pleiades and California Nebula are in one line with Alchenar. Coincidence?
Conclusion: Barnacles are created (and defended) by humans (Alliance?) to produce Meta Alloys, a superior material. Why? Who knows...
One big question:
What was first? The UA or the Barnacle?
I just did it for myself to think about, but i guess it can't hurt to post it, maybe someones brain makes a jump on it
What happened so far...
UA:
- According to the WINGS Trailer, the first UA was discovered in the California Nebula by Palin.
- Then, UAs were rarely found by players in convoys.
- The UA-Shell around Merope was discovered with UAs pointing to Merope star. This is nearly one year ago, and the shell did not change since then.
- Since then, no other UAs except those in the shell were found.
- Although the UA does not look like human tech, it's still possible that they are created by humans because of the morse code.
- UAs don't seem to be aggressive, but they seem to have some kind of selfdefense, or just an extreme radiation.
- They are scanning everything that comes near them.. why?
- They are morsing the name of the nearest celestial body and diagrams of scanned ships.. Why?
- Why they are pointing to Merope is not clear. We haven't found anything special about Merope yet. MB said, they are pointing there because they are supposed to. Because FD decided so? Or because of an ingame reason?
Conclusion: None
Barnacles:
- First discovered in the Pleiades Nebula
- They are supposed to be found in nebulae (according to MB)
- The nebulae they are found in relate to their origin (MB)
- They produce Meta Alloys and other rare minerals
- Meta Alloys are used to counteract the harms of UAs.
- They are a non natural lifeform, genetically created by someone. Why? To produce Meta Alloys?
- If Barnacles and UAs are connected somehow is not clear. At least, there are similarities (sound, particles)
- After they were massively harvested by players, someone put turrets beside them to defend them. The turrets are human tech, they have writings (numbers) on them.
- Recently, barnacles were discovered in the California Nebula.
- Pleiades and California Nebula are in one line with Alchenar. Coincidence?
Conclusion: Barnacles are created (and defended) by humans (Alliance?) to produce Meta Alloys, a superior material. Why? Who knows...
One big question:
What was first? The UA or the Barnacle?
Does anyone have the direct quote of what MB said about the/other barnacle location/s? I thought it was they are only in one other nebula, and that's their origin.
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Found it in first post (of course!) still open for interpretation:
I'm afraid not - the nebula that they can be found in relates to their origin and I can't talk about that.
Michael
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Found it in first post (of course!) still open for interpretation:
I'm afraid not - the nebula that they can be found in relates to their origin and I can't talk about that.
Michael
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Congratulations!!!
Now, that you are there, could you please tell me what is the min height you can see them, and if you can see them from orbital flight??? That would save my day here!!
Cheers
I found something interesting on the galaxy map. The first picture. Is a light in the middle of nowhere. with everything turned off. At first i thought it was nothing special. Then i clicked realistic. To find that is a star. BUT why can i see the system when everything is unchecked?
I also bellive that the Pleiades nebula is related to the Orion nebula because of this thing i got of wikipedia The cluster is dominated by hot blue and extremely luminous stars that have formed within the last 100 million years. Dust that forms a faint reflection nebulosity around the brightest stars was thought at first to be left over from the formation of the cluster (hence the alternative name Maia Nebula after the star Maia), but is now known to be an unrelated dust cloud in the interstellar medium, through which the stars are currently passing. Computer simulations have shown that the Pleiades was probably formed from a compact configuration that resembled the Orion Nebula.[7] Astronomers estimate that the cluster will survive for about another 250 million years, after which it will disperse due to gravitational interactions with its galactic neighborhood.[8]
all right, so.. around 7h flying around two bodies in the first system this nebulae. My first conclusion is: I need a method, something reliable. The amount of time required to check every 'possible' rock and canyon is too much. An SRV is even worse, in a ship at least you can travel a cannon 4x times faster, and hop from one to another. Nothing to report, not a single signal of anything. Worst thing are the glitches due to my config, kept getting me distracted looking at vanishing white dots here and there.
So, I'll finish in this system and then head back to do some tests in an intact barnacle before any more attempts.
/me sad
So, I'll finish in this system and then head back to do some tests in an intact barnacle before any more attempts.
/me sad
So is the cargo automatically swapped when you swap between current & a stored ship, providing it has cargo space?
I seem to remember you can't store a ship with cargo; trouble is I can't remember how big a cargo hold I had on my AspX, and of course you can't store commodities anywhere (pity Felicity won't hold on to any for me when I pop back & swap the Python for the Asp).
but, if you have money and can afford a loss, buy a ship that has the same module size u want to upgrade (or the same ship) because all new ships come with cargo space. Do your upgrade then come back and once your cago is empty, swap modules.
also think than an FSD size 5 can be used in a FDL, ASP, FAS, DBX, even a pyhton.. so you could use any if your other ships that has cargo if it has the same size of the module you want to upgrade.
yes, the cargo is swapped. everything except limpets.
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Lady-bugs don't develop more spots with age.Also all of them are poisonous(to eat).Lol my first post and its completely unrelated to Elite.
on my way to CN Via maia to look for shell in CN be there soon.
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At maia now, any thing i need before heading out to CN
I have cargo bay
scanners
srv
and many guns
In a black dbs
here to help in the shell search.
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At maia now, any thing i need before heading out to CN
I have cargo bay
scanners
srv
and many guns
In a black dbs
here to help in the shell search.
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Sorry, there is no method to reliably search a planet for the presence of barnicles. If there was, we would have found them in California, Barnards and everywhere else where they may or may not be.
A planet, even a small moon, is just too big.
I would say its just dumb luck, but that would imply that the discoverers were dumb. They were not, just insane.
I just wish micheal gave us another hint. We have pretty much hit a dead end. I mean barnards loop is closed off. Most of other points of interest are also blocked off. So what are we missing?
Hi all, quick question, just like to know how you go about it. I have been zig-zagging my way around in a sphere (bookmarked search pattern) of approx 100-180 ly from the new Bcl. location, looking for a possible new UA shell.
Here's how i do it: Enter a system, honk, fly towards anything interesting/scan it - to have something to do while i wait for max. 10mins for SS to appear, then move on.
Now, before i get back home to continue, do you guys have any recommendations for the in-system search, like staying at a fixed position, maybe on top of the main star, cruise speed recommendations, anything else to make my it more efficient? Thanks
Here's how i do it: Enter a system, honk, fly towards anything interesting/scan it - to have something to do while i wait for max. 10mins for SS to appear, then move on.
Now, before i get back home to continue, do you guys have any recommendations for the in-system search, like staying at a fixed position, maybe on top of the main star, cruise speed recommendations, anything else to make my it more efficient? Thanks
im going to fly a economic rout to cal sect dl-y d4 at each stop bookmark it and do like you said honk, fly away from the star scan something wait 5 mins then repeat until i get to dl-yd4 then im going to fly 300ly away on same axis and continue doing it for all 3 axis running through dl-y d4 with a 300ly radius. (i have used this before on other nebulae with no luck but never before had a central point to start from ands havnt tried this nebular)
We've been given a hint though.
The spawn rate of Barnacles has increased, just like what happened with the Unknown Artefacts in 1.4. It may be way easier to find Barnacles in Nebulae now. Obviously we still can't know for sure if this is correct, but we could just check one landable planet per system in the California Nebula see if it spawns a Barnacle site. If after x mins we can't find one, we move on to the next system, and so on.
The spawn rate of Barnacles has increased, just like what happened with the Unknown Artefacts in 1.4. It may be way easier to find Barnacles in Nebulae now. Obviously we still can't know for sure if this is correct, but we could just check one landable planet per system in the California Nebula see if it spawns a Barnacle site. If after x mins we can't find one, we move on to the next system, and so on.
Just wild speculation: What if all barnacles really have the same origin and are shot (seeded) to their destination by kind of launching device (large cannon or similar on a planet)? Any hint about other nebulae would then indeed be too obvious. Now that we know two different nebulae containing barnacles, it is interesting to see that both together line up with Achenar quite well.
*edit* ok, planets are rotating and therefore this might be very unlikely. But if the barnacles are spread towards an 'area of interest' and not 'randomly', then the theory could have some weight to it.
I'm as sure as I can be that they have the same origin; however I don't think we're going to discover it by anything as simple as lining them up.
I posted a few months back that I thought they likely originated from the missing generation ships and recent developments, in particular DB's comment about them being genetically engineered from an earlier life form have only reinforced that belief. My belief is basically that they were GE'd by the inhabitants of the generation ships from good old earth barnacles as a form of resource mining device and are seeded on planets to absorb their natural minerals, process them into useable meta-alloys and then collected, with the UAs acting as a form of sentry to warn of anything approaching the 'mining' sites and transmit data back to the 'farmers'.
Although there's an element of meta gaming involved in this conclusion since we know a big chunk of the space around Barnard's and the Horsehead neb has now been permit locked, I anticipate that somewhere around there will be found one of the generation ships and possibly a human colony.
Or it's Thargoids, obv. Or what I hypothesized is correct and it's still ultimately to do with Thargoids. Winter is coming, etc. To stick with that GoT metaphor that DB threw in, perhaps those colonists are effectively 'North of the wall' and know what's on the way, with their development of meta-alloys being part of their attempts to defend themselves.
(By the way I'm only halfway through season 5 of GoT so please don't spoiler me in any replies lol)
Still deciding whether to stay in the bubble chasing FSD upgrade stuff for Felicity or head out to the Cali neb to help with looking for a shell.
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