Powerplay Powerplay "meeting" with FD

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I'm sure the group that are going to the meeting are all reading this thread and laughing maniacally while twisting the ends of the moustaches as they think up new ways to ruin Elite for everyone.

Not really. All we're planning on doing is make the NPCs hunt down any and all accounts owned by Jezza ...
 

Goose4291

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There is always going to be uproar, drama and 'salt'. No matter what FD, the Shadow Cabal of Evil Illuminatus™®, Jezzas or the Silent Majority™ say or do it shall be so, until the end of Elite (depending on your views is tomorrow, this year or never).

I'm just depressed that even trying to help is shot down instantly.

You're totally right, however the fact there is always going to be 'salt' does not mean we shouldn't take obvious steps to remedy or mitigate as much of it as we can.
 
I laughed. What you quoted could be applied equally to your Op or the PowerPlay ThinkTank operation to get FD to listen.

I was more thinking of the several people who think it's ok to come into this thread and treat it like a "let's bash jezza" type of thing. I'm really disappointed in the Elite community actually.
 
Yeah I kind of lost hope for powerplay too, the main thing I'm worried about is these people pushing their pro-powerplay agenda onto the devs. I've seen some really terrible ideas proposed like I mentioned before, which would ruin the game for non-powerplayers.

Give me a break. I have already, repeatedly told you what the purpose of the meeting is--and it has nothing to do with pushing any agenda or proposing any changes that could even conceivably affect non-powerplayers. Given that you've been told this multiple times now, yet continue to repeat this nonsense, it's no longer possible impossible for me to imagine that you're not doing this on purpose. You're lying and slandering other people while complaining that others are criticizing you *for this very behaviour.* That's some next level trolling.
 
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Give me a break. I have already, repeatedly told you what the purpose of the meeting is--and it has nothing to do with pushing any agenda or proposing any changes that could even conceivably affect non-powerplayers. Given that you've been told this multiple times now, yet continue to repeat this nonsense, it's no longer possible impossible for me to imagine that you're not doing this on purpose. You're lying and slandering other people while complaining that others are criticizing you *for this very behaviour.* That's some next level trolling.

If that was the case, why has there not been any transparency? What IS the agenda?
 
If that was the case, why has there not been any transparency? What IS the agenda?

Just in case you didn't catch it the first dozen times, as you were too busy being indignant for everyone, it's to discuss the last cycle and how it was handled and to bring up another few bugs, like incorrect numbers in the Gal Map. As well as to try and find out how FDev deal with bugs and the thought processes behind them. Let me know if that's not clear...
 
Just in case you didn't catch it the first dozen times, as you were too busy being indignant for everyone, it's to discuss the last cycle and how it was handled and to bring up another few bugs, like incorrect numbers in the Gal Map. As well as to try and find out how FDev deal with bugs and the thought processes behind them. Let me know if that's not clear...

I want to hear it from Boots. Unless you are an organiser of the meeting? I'm not interested to hear what some random third party thinks the agenda is.
 
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Goose4291

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Quantrix - the meeting has a representative from your group, if you have a problem, rather than feeding the trolls please speak to them.

Why is requesting a link to the information in question 'feeding the trolls'?

All I (and a few others who posted prior) are asking for is a bit of openesss regarding (i) what your meetings agenda is and (ii) what it's final content is.

Telling someone to speak to someone else, and keeping it off the books, rather than simply providing a link is showing the issues I'm raising with this idea.
 
But the problem is, this isn't the real world. It's a game. My concerns, as are a few other of the few detractors who are writing here, is Why should such a discussion need confidentially clauses in the first instance?
erm, last i checked i played a game frontier published, and i don't actually exist in a virtual space 'although philosophically that can be an interesting discussion' the idea was for a physical/digital meeting, outside the game, which last i checked is the real world as we perceive it, so my metaphor fits.

the more i read from some posters here, the more concerned i get, that some players really do blur the boundaries between RP and RL. and respond as if they are playing PP and not discussion PP.

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To fuel the conspiracy theories, obviously :D

what, nooo, thats not it at.. ah well, maybe, aye, anything is possible
 
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the more i read from some posters here, the more concerned i get, that some players really do blur the boundaries between RP and RL. and respond as if they are playing PP and not discussion PP.

What difference does it make? People will still try to screw you over whether it's in game or in real life, must always have your guard up. Humans suck.
 

Goose4291

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erm, last i checked i played a game frontier published, and i don't actually exist in a virtual space 'although philosophically that can be an interesting discussion' the idea was for a physical/digital meeting, outside the game, which last i checked is the real world as we perceive it, so my metaphor fits.

the more i read from some posters here, the more concerned i get, that some players really do blur the boundaries between RP and RL. and respond as if they are playing PP and not discussion PP.

I agree with what you're saying in this post, (as can be seen by my opening point that it's a game), but your statement here conflicts with the points you were making in the other post I was referring to, namely:

"with this idea, they can emulate the kind of dialogue you find in a board room, including confidentiality, between 2 companies, with a much higher level of relative detail and information being shared and discussed, than in other environments, this is productive, and cost effective in terms of time vs gains."

My point is the idea that as a player you need confidentiality and disclosure agreements to discuss issues with the developers of a game is ludicrous.
 
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