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Cosmo

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Vote Leave reveals 50 criminals the EU stopped us deporting
June 07, 2016

Vote Leave is today publishing a dossier of 50 criminals which the European Court prevented us from deporting. These cases include offenders convicted of murder,     , robbery and drug trafficking.

‘the appellant’s deportation could not be justified simply on the basis of his previous criminal conviction even of such a serious nature as      and attempted     .’

The Upper Tribunal, 29 January 2015

EU free movement rules prioritise the rights of criminals over public safety and mean we cannot deport dangerous EU criminals. If we vote to stay in the EU, this lack of control will only increase as the European Court uses the Charter of Fundamental Rights to entrench the right of foreign national offenders to reside in the UK.

The EU criminals we have identified include:

  • Learco Chindamo, an Italian national who murdered headteacher Philip Lawrence in 1995 when he went to the assistance of a 13-year-old boy who was being attacked.
  • Theresa Rafacz, a Polish national, who killed her husband, including by kicking him in the face with a shod foot while he lay on the ground drunk.
  • Andrzej Stankiewicz, who was sentenced to five years’ imprisonment for causing death by careless driving while drunk.
  • Jordan Epee Homb, a German, convicted of possessing of a firearm with intent to cause fear of violence, who went to his victim’s house (occupied by his mother and seven-year-old daughter). An accomplice fired a shotgun twice through the front door.
  • Mircea Gheorghiu, a Romanian whom the Secretary of State was ordered to readmit to the UK and to grant permanent residence, after removing him from the UK.
  • Mantas Baibokas, a Lithuanian who was discovered in possession of 7 kg of amphetamine sulphate, hidden in a jet ski in his garage.
 
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Surfinjo

Surfinjo
Rather more important the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU.

Leaving the EU or staying, the ECHR is entirely separate.

Though these sort of reports are exactly why this whole campaign is so utterly silly.

More Bent Bananas really
 

Sunleader

Sunleader
Surfinjo said:
Rather more important the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU.

Leaving the EU or staying, the ECHR is entirely separate.

Though these sort of reports are exactly why this whole campaign is so utterly silly.

More Bent Bananas really
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This ^^

Its just like the Brexit Camps Claim that Britain needs to leave the EU because otherwise they will be dragged into an War with Russia due to EU provocations. And that by leaving the EU they would be safe sitting on their island and remaining on peaceful relations with Russia....

I wonder if they forgot that they are in the Nato.
If Russia goes to War with Europe. Britain will be part of it. Regardless of them being EU member or not xD
(Not mentioning that Britain would be dead anyways if the EU lost because it would basicly become a Russian Satellite entirely dependent on Russian grace xD )




I say let them go.
Nothing will change.

They will still obey EU regulations because otherwise they wont get access to the markets.
They will still pay the Fees just like Swiss and Norway do.
And they will still be Allied cause they are part of the NATO.


Well albeit they might also have some worse aspects.
Because if they dont accept refugees the EU can refuse other access including taking back any refugees crossing the channel. Meaning they would either end up with massively more refugees or would need to ship em back to Africa xD

And they lose their veto power.
Meaning the remaining EU can just decide all regulations and rules without asking Britain and Britain only having the choice to sign it or lose access tp the markets effectively killing their own economy.



And the EU will be harsh on this. They wont give the UK even a single advantage. Cause they know if they did. Other countrys would try to get out as well.
So you can be sure that the EU wont back down a single inch on this if UK leaves :p
 

Lianachan

Lianachan
Surfinjo said:
Rather more important the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU.

Leaving the EU or staying, the ECHR is entirely separate.

Though these sort of reports are exactly why this whole campaign is so utterly silly.

More Bent Bananas really
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Vote leave arguments seem to consist almost entirely of arrogant, British imperialist attitudes a century or more old.
 

Lordfrith

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hi Cosmo, look im genuinely interested to hear what both sides of the debate have to say but...

50 'criminals' you said, but in fact it would seem they're 'previously convicted criminals' which is rather different. Have any of these people offended again? in the uk? for all i (and possibly you) know all 50 people on this list could now be pious, hardworking, tax paying, paragons of virtue (heh is anyone?). The information given seems deliberately incomplete with the intention of securing my vote with a knee jerk fear reaction.

nothing against you or your opinions my friend, just very frustrated with the lack of facts that always seems to accompany referendums.
If you put the half truths from the leave campaign with the half truths from the stay campaign how come you don't get the whole truth? :S
 

Arry

Arry
Cosmo said:
Vote Leave reveals 50 criminals the EU stopped us deporting
June 07, 2016

Vote Leave is today publishing a dossier of 50 criminals which the European Court prevented us from deporting. These cases include offenders convicted of murder, , robbery and drug trafficking.

‘the appellant’s deportation could not be justified simply on the basis of his previous criminal conviction even of such a serious nature as and attempted .’

The Upper Tribunal, 29 January 2015

EU free movement rules prioritise the rights of criminals over public safety and mean we cannot deport dangerous EU criminals. If we vote to stay in the EU, this lack of control will only increase as the European Court uses the Charter of Fundamental Rights to entrench the right of foreign national offenders to reside in the UK.

The EU criminals we have identified include:

  • Learco Chindamo, an Italian national who murdered headteacher Philip Lawrence in 1995 when he went to the assistance of a 13-year-old boy who was being attacked.
  • Theresa Rafacz, a Polish national, who killed her husband, including by kicking him in the face with a shod foot while he lay on the ground drunk.
  • Andrzej Stankiewicz, who was sentenced to five years’ imprisonment for causing death by careless driving while drunk.
  • Jordan Epee Homb, a German, convicted of possessing of a firearm with intent to cause fear of violence, who went to his victim’s house (occupied by his mother and seven-year-old daughter). An accomplice fired a shotgun twice through the front door.
  • Mircea Gheorghiu, a Romanian whom the Secretary of State was ordered to readmit to the UK and to grant permanent residence, after removing him from the UK.
  • Mantas Baibokas, a Lithuanian who was discovered in possession of 7 kg of amphetamine sulphate, hidden in a jet ski in his garage.
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It is kind of obvious, that you are on the leave side. Not a problem, I may disagree with your opinion, but will fight for the right to have and voice it. Something that out of the EU, Dave may try to change.

To be blunt: It is often the case with all of these, often ridiculous rules the EU creates; if a county doesn't like the rule, they ignore it and pay the fine. The UK does this with using razor wire to contain humans. It is illegal in the EU, but it is used all over the UK and the government, just pays the fine.

With regards foreigners committing crimes in the Uk: I say deport them all and pay the fine afterwards. Put them, under guard on a plane and don't let them back.
 
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