UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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Quick question: Is it normal that Barnacles regrow their spikes and suddenly get skimmer escorts? Basically, I saved yesterday in the following non-standard parking position:

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Except for the minor fact that it is 60m or so in the air, this is a normally looking Barnacles with its spikes destroyed. I save and re-entered the game several times yesterday, and as long as I blocked the location of the barnacle, it stayed up there.

This is the same barnacle when I entered now:
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Note: Spikes regrown, skimmers spawned.

Selfie-Cam shot:
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Okay, two tries and six dead skimmers later, I have reclaimed my parking spot. And if you deduce that I can reproduce the flying barnacle at will by now, you are right.
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That's quite a big departure from what has been written and shown in the games. Basically rewrites everything as it was hardly small scale stuff that happened and it was only 450 years ago - still in a time of digital record keeping so I would not buy the whole "nobody believes that stuff it's legend" type of experience you used to be able to have when records were second, third, 4th hand and always passed through a human for interpretation.

Nothing is forgotten when everything is saved somewhere. Just ask Google how it's doing with it's forced forgetfulness that the EU is trying to enforce on them.

Retconning is the name of this game so whatever story they come up with, I hope it's better than that.
That's not quite right IIRC

We stopped seeing Thargoid interceptions when people stopped using witchspace and switched to standard hyperdrives well before FE2 - the Thargoid war and "defeat" then took place well outside the bubble though it's location was not revealed.

John Harper said:
"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."

Those who have seen a Thargoid ship now are the very few who've watching old recordings on old, old ships - the rest is locked up deep in Imp/Fed files - including what they found out about the size of that force....
 
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That's not quite right IIRC

We stopped seeing Thargoid interceptions when people stopped using witchspace and switched to standard hyperdrives well before FE2 - the Thargoid war and "defeat" then took place well outside the bubble though it's location was not revealed.



Those who have seen a Thargoid ship now are the very few who've watching old recordings on old, old ships - the rest is locked up deep in Imp/Fed files - including what they found out about the size of that force....

I'm going by http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Chronicles_of_the_Milky_Way#The_Thirty_Forth_Century which like the star wars guy who knows everything about star wars, seems to be more on top of their story than Braben is. I dont know what you're going by.

There was over a hundred years of hostilities and wars which would have been reported on across all civilized space (aliens tend to be a big news item). I still do not think anyone would buy the argument that it was actually all pretty secret and nobody has records of it. Thousands of worlds with essentially infinite storage capacity for all the digital information flowing through civilized space. This wasn't some isolated secret encounter....thargoids had invaded core systems at one point, we captured their ships and even flew one. All in the time period of the current generation of space ships that we're all flying around.
 
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Barnacle Status update [9 June 3302]

In the parlance of Old Earth,
Houston, we have a problem

At some point last night between 02:00 and 10:00 IGT, the Barnacles got "changed".

Some Barnacles that were previously intact are now destroyed.
Some Barnacles that were previously destroyed are now intact.
The number of spikes has changed for some.
The barnacle has rotated for others.
Where there was a double barnacle in some places, there is now a single Barnacle.

Case in point. Eldante posted to this thread yesterday about a new Barnacle found on California Sector LC-V c2-10 B 1
This was the verification image I took last night...
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This was the same Barnacle this evening...
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The spikes have grown back intact.

This completely changes things! We're going to need verification of the status of known Barnacle locations. If every Barnacle has had it's state inverted, then this is something we need to pay attention to.
 
If the thargoids really wanted to **** us over. Thise UAs would be carrying spores and they go on to our ship when we are near them. When we land they spread throughout the air and infect people. Then a outbreak happens people start dieing etc etc.
 
I think this whole thing has to do with That engineer promising to make Unknown Artifact cargo bays. I think focus needs to be put on that guy. And Witchspace does look mighty suspicious.

I wonder if anyone has also tried following one of those convoys carrying the alien stuff all the way to the final destination?
 
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I think this whole thing has to do with That engineer promising to make Unknown Artifact cargo bays. I think focus needs to be put on that guy. And Witchspace does look mighty suspicious.

I wonder if anyone has also tried following one of those convoys carrying the alien stuff all the way to the final destination?

yes. it was done. basically: bupkis,
 
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This completely changes things! We're going to need verification of the status of known Barnacle locations. If every Barnacle has had it's state inverted, then this is something we need to pay attention to.

Reversion confirmed for the original Merope 5C Barnacle, see my earlier post asking if it was normal that Barnacles grew their spikes back.

Fortunately for my piece of mind, I still can make them fly outside open.
 
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My tinfoil take on that link is that just as the barnacles are genetically modified from an earlier form, the UAs are bioengineered from the same genetic stock (and perhaps something else). That would explain the several coincidental attributes such as fireflies, sounds, patterns (green lights and 'Mayan' markings) and so on. The UAs are a more refined and complex bioengineered tool for a different purpose, built from the same biological palette by the same hand IMO

The barnacles are in Merope because conditions are right for them there. The UAs point there from their shell for some other reason that we need to find.


Yes I agree with this. I am pretty sure MB said that these barnacles are found on multiple nebulae not just the one where they were first found. Why do the probes point towards that particular nebulae is a different matter. I will head out that way myself but the more people that go the better our odds of finding what it is we need to find. I will start in Merope
 
I'm going by http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Chronicles_of_the_Milky_Way#The_Thirty_Forth_Century which like the star wars guy who knows everything about star wars, seems to be more on top of their story than Braben is. I dont know what you're going by.

There was over a hundred years of hostilities and wars which would have been reported on across all civilized space (aliens tend to be a big news item). I still do not think anyone would buy the argument that it was actually all pretty secret and nobody has records of it. Thousands of worlds with essentially infinite storage capacity for all the digital information flowing through civilized space. This wasn't some isolated secret encounter....thargoids had invaded core systems at one point, we captured their ships and even flew one. All in the time period of the current generation of space ships that we're all flying around.
yeah but

3151 Thargoids defeated, presumed eradicated. Bioweapons are thought to have been used by the joint Federation and Empire organisation INRA.

It's 3302 - memories are short - look what's going on politically here in 2016!

Apparently the last thargoids in human space were in 3051

The war through 3100 took place near sector -9,-9 apparently which on the frontier map is off the basic map.... here

Actually there's much larger maps in the Frontier/FE forums, i bet there's more to dig into on this there and you've made me curious.

ps. that timeline also says betelgeuse has gone nova..? meh. revisionism perhaps but glad i got to see it so huge :D
 
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Ozric

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Are we to infer that the discovery of a Barnacle outside of the Pleiades has triggered something?

The powerplay tick happens on a Thursday morning if my memory serves me correctly, could well have been triggered to go off at the tick after it was found.
 
Are we to infer that the discovery of a Barnacle outside of the Pleiades has triggered something?

The powerplay tick happens on a Thursday morning if my memory serves me correctly, could well have been triggered to go off at the tick after it was found.


Man I hope all this alien stuff doesnt have anything to do with Powerplay. I would be curious to know how many people interested in the alien stuff actually do Powerplay as well. I think that these two game features are completely separate of each other and I hope I am right because it will make things much harder since I am not interested in the very least on powerplay.
 
Are we to infer that the discovery of a Barnacle outside of the Pleiades has triggered something?

The powerplay tick happens on a Thursday morning if my memory serves me correctly, could well have been triggered to go off at the tick after it was found.

That's the theory floating around on the Canonn Discord atm.
It's the only server intervention in the timescale.
 
So what does it take to organize a massive search of Merope? It seems MB hinted that the fact that the artifacts pointed there was seperate from the barnacles as if there is something else there that we missed.

Maybe that the reason these barnacles changed. To get us to go back there again.
 

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That's quite a big departure from what has been written and shown in the games. Basically rewrites everything as it was hardly small scale stuff that happened and it was only 450 years ago - still in a time of digital record keeping so I would not buy the whole "nobody believes that stuff it's legend" type of experience you used to be able to have when records were second, third, 4th hand and always passed through a human for interpretation.

Nothing is forgotten when everything is saved somewhere. Just ask Google how it's doing with it's forced forgetfulness that the EU is trying to enforce on them.

Retconning is the name of this game so whatever story they come up with, I hope it's better than that.

I'm not actually sure whether this is on topic for this thread or not, but anyway you would have to go and watch the interview to get the exact context and quote - I was paraphrasing so he may not have said people don't believe it happened in exactlty those words, more like it's not relevant to their lives any more and for many it did happen far away, so it's somewhat forgotten in everyday life.

p.s. what Frostypaw said ^^
 
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yeah but

3151 Thargoids defeated, presumed eradicated. Bioweapons are thought to have been used by the joint Federation and Empire organisation INRA.

It's 3302 - memories are short - look what's going on politically here in 2016!

Apparently the last thargoids in human space were in 3051

The war through 3100 took place near sector -9,-9 apparently which on the frontier map is off the basic map.... here

Actually there's much larger maps in the Frontier/FE forums, i bet there's more to dig into on this there and you've made me curious.

ps. that timeline also says betelgeuse has gone nova..? meh. revisionism perhaps but glad i got to see it so huge :D

Your personal memory may be short, but the digital memory is absolute and would exist all over the place. It would not be something that would be forgotton, it would be something every child would be taught in school and unlike reading a story, they'd be able to see first hand reports and news broadcasts regarding the events (any event) for the last 500+ years that they wanted. Regardless of where the last battle was, they got into core systems, got beyond some kind of military cover story. They're the only aliens we have had contact with. The notion that this would be forgotten in a futuristic digital age is stupid.
 
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