UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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Here is a sad thing... i am stranded in my python... no station in sight. *insert sad music* All i will do now... is watch my fuel gauge slowly go down... until it hits 0. my python will be dust in space...
Call the Fuel Rats!
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On a separate note, I have failed to find Barnacles on Witch Head Sector DL-Y d22 2 A, a rocky moon of a ringed water world (radius 499km, temp 222K, 91.1% rock, 8.9% metal) and have decided to move on to a HMC world elsewhere. I also failed to find the very rare material there, finding only Mn, Cr, Mo, Nb. Strangely, the world I've moved to also has Cr, Mo and Nb... (no very rare there yet, either). During a few system scans I did find an Earth-like World: Witch Head Sector FG-Y d16 A 2 and also an Ammonia World: Witch Head Sector DL-Y d9 8. If I fail to find anything tomorrow, I'll head for a known Barnacle site to check how close I need to get in order to see one from my ship: I'm mostly flying along canyons and craters at 500-2500m altitude. At ~500-700m I can see rocks but I'm finding it difficult to spot surface POI with a blue circle and have to get out of my ship each time (at least I got some data materials for my trouble today).
 
Fuel rats perhaps? Time to press that button


Maybe it is...

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Here is a thing. I did not see this on the Wiki. But as i was smuggling stuff in to a station ( go me! ) I was watching my heat then realised... what if you got your heat REAAAAALY high at the merope star? I mean... like SUPER SUPER SUPER high. with the UA on board of course. (while in super cruise) and see what happens? maybe the UA is a beacon. And then when you get your heat to a certain temp the aliens on the other side might pull you in to there area or something? Maybe do that when your heat gets really high in warp.


On a side note. While I wait. Anyone willing to head to Merope with a UA?
 
The chances we'd want to go into detail about it are minimal - and they are not the only intelligent species we've encountered, just the Empire wiped out the other one.

Humanity met several species when we ventured beyond the Sol system and wiped out all of them, except the Thargoids. The Federation wiped out other species before the Empire even existed.

Fantastic! Is there anywhere one can read details about this? For instance a detailed reasoning about the two versions of each letter? I have never seen any details, just repeated claims it contained "Stylised Morse". You are the first person I find who actually posts details, and I really would like to understand the UA sounds, so I can record sounds and repeat the analysis.

Cheers, CMDR Heisenberg6626

You may find the links in Rizal's UA post on the first page useful.
 
Saw my first barnacle the other day, it was cool!
I didn't dare shoot at it though, it might remember later down the road, I politely tipped my space hat and went on my way, lol...

Anyway, tinfoil hat on...
People discuss the UA's and where they point to, and therefore attention is on that location as if the UA's are directing them there. Also that the UA's can be found approx 130LY in a sphere around the location? Am I right thats called the 'shell'?

If my understanding above is correct, I would suggest that the UA's are not pointing towards, as example Merope...they are moving away from it in all directions. That the Barnacles create the UA's and shoot them into space periodically, hence the shell as they move away from the system in a search pattern, towards...?

Well that then would be the question...what are the UA's/Barnacles looking for?

Just an idea. Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of that :)
 

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Pleiades Sector JC-U b3-2 2 49.9075 102.7141 Previously intact and guarded, now destroyed

Pleiades Sector JC-U b3-2 2 49.5347 102.0792 Previously intact unguarded, now destroyed

Pleiades Sector JC-U b3-2 2 49.7519 102.161 Previously (I'm guessing destroyed from the lack of appearance on the Canonn site), now destroyed

Pleiades Sector JC-U b3-2 2 49.0665 102.9364 Previously (I'm guessing destroyed from the lack of appearance on the Canonn site), now destroyed

That's me for the night, but it may also be worth noting that when 2.1 first landed and I scanned almost all the known Barnacles to give the data to the Canonn research centre, if I tried to scan the same Barnacle twice it told me I already had the data. However it is letting me scan them all again, so that is what I'm doing, data will be incoming tomorrow.

*Edit* Has anyone found a Barnacle that still has defences today?
 
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Pleiades Sector JC-U b3-2 2 49.9075 102.7141 Previously intact and guarded, now destroyed

Pleiades Sector JC-U b3-2 2 49.5347 102.0792 Previously intact unguarded, now destroyed

Pleiades Sector JC-U b3-2 2 49.7519 102.161 Previously (I'm guessing destroyed from the lack of appearance on the Canonn site), now destroyed

Pleiades Sector JC-U b3-2 2 49.0665 102.9364 Previously (I'm guessing destroyed from the lack of appearance on the Canonn site), now destroyed

That's me for the night, but it may also be worth noting that when 2.1 first landed and I scanned almost all the known Barnacles to give the data to the Canonn research centre, if I tried to scan the same Barnacle twice it told me I already had the data. However it is letting me scan them all again, so that is what I'm doing, data will be incoming tomorrow.

*Edit* Has anyone found a Barnacle that still has defences today?

could you please not make public the location of one barnacle and see if it still changes? hardly we can't confirm anything when they can be destroyed in solo..
 

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could you please not make public the location of one barnacle and see if it still changes? hardly we can't confirm anything when they can be destroyed in solo..

Don't really understand what you mean. The locations are freely available and they have not changed in between sessions before, but we need to see if multiple people see the same state to confirm something has changed. I am parked up at a Barnacle so when I log in tomorrow I can see if the state has changed for me, oh and I never play in solo :p
 
could you please not make public the location of one barnacle and see if it still changes? hardly we can't confirm anything when they can be destroyed in solo..

The 1st California Barnacle was destroyed when 1st discovered (AFAIK). So unless there was a massive coincidence that someone else found it recently but kept it quiet, I dont think its entirely our fault.

I am highly doubtful that the California discovery has caused the state changes. What DID happen when California was discovered was a WEEKEND change of Permit Locks. Weekend suggests it was automatic, and something must have triggered it, so it is possible that discovery in other Nebula could lead to other Permit Changes until we actually get to discover something.
IMHO The Barnacle's status will continue to change every Thursday
 

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I am highly doubtful that the California discovery has caused the state changes. What DID happen when California was discovered was a WEEKEND change of Permit Locks. Weekend suggests it was automatic, and something must have triggered it, so it is possible that discovery in other Nebula could lead to other Permit Changes until we actually get to discover something.
IMHO The Barnacle's status will continue to change every Thursday

I may be missing something as I've been away for a while, but was the Californian one not only discovered on Tuesday?
If the status did change every week, then presumably they could be scanned every week too and the changes monitored. This is also the first time they've changed isn't it?
 
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I may be missing something as I've been away for a while, but was the Californian one not only discovered on Tuesday?
If the status did change every week, then presumably they could be scanned every week too and the changes monitored. This is also the first time they've changed isn't it?

There are 2 there one on c6 and one on c3
 
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I highly doubt permit systems are affected by barnacles. FD made a number of changes when 2.1 dropped and they probably just realized they missed something and made the change then. Not surprising considering the number of sectors permit blocked and the very strange organization of the sectors. IE. sectors aren't regular "sections" of the galaxy but rather look like gerrymandered voting districts.
 
Here is a thing. I did not see this on the Wiki. But as i was smuggling stuff in to a station ( go me! ) I was watching my heat then realised... what if you got your heat REAAAAALY high at the merope star? I mean... like SUPER SUPER SUPER high. with the UA on board of course. (while in super cruise) and see what happens? maybe the UA is a beacon. And then when you get your heat to a certain temp the aliens on the other side might pull you in to there area or something? Maybe do that when your heat gets really high in warp.

As an indie developer myself I doubt they would have made the puzzle to be solved that way. I also think things like this were already done. My number 1 suspect is that we all missed something at Merope. Everyone was so busy looking at the Barnacles that they missed something. Im on my way out there now in a diamond back. I suspect some kind of ruin or something similar to the barnacles that was hand placed. It would take a long time to search through all the planets there. I think there needs to be a massive community effort to look once more through that system. Those UA pointed at the system for a reason and Michael Brooks confirmed that the barnacles are found in many different places not just in that nebulae, so the UA's must be pointing at something else and NOT the barnacles which are indeed related but not the same puzzle.
 
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I think you're underestimating the impact of the encounters with the only non-human sentient species we as a human race have ever encountered. To put that on any level below 'venturing into space, discovering there are planets other than our own, etc' is a bit ridiculous.

It wasn't some war against alien weeds. It was our only interaction with alien life forms with technology in many ways superior to our own. No. That is not relegated to pffft. Whatever history. I'd have an easier time suspending disbelief that it was all part of the plan to suddenly have dozens of entire sectors permit blocked off over night.

I'm sure there's plenty of info about the Thargoids out there. But there is a entity in the ED universe that has almost absolute control over news, information, and communications. It's called GalNet. I'm sure if they wanted to conceal information they'd have little trouble doing so.
 
As an indie developer myself I doubt they would have made the puzzle to be solved that way. I also think things like this were already done. My number 1 suspect is that we all missed something at Merope. Everyone was so busy looking at the Barnacles that they missed something. Im on my way out there now in a diamond back. I suspect some kind of ruin or something similar to the barnacles that was hand placed. It would take a long time to search through all the planets there. I think there needs to be a massive community effort to look once more through that system. Those UA pointed at the system for a reason and Michael Brooks confirmed that the barnacles are found in many different places not just in that nebulae, so the UA's must be pointing at something else and NOT the barnacles which are indeed related but not the same puzzle.

I agree. The fact that UAs transmit ship sighting data to Merope implies there is some kind of receiver or relay in the system.
 
Not sure how much from lore or previous canon anyone can take when it comes to Thargoids and Elite Dangerous. It seems Elite Dangerous is operating under the guise that aliens (thargoids) haven't ever been interacted with - which would be completely counter to existing lore. I mean hell, Thargoids and deep study of their technology predates the creation of the Anaconda (450 years ago to current game time).

I think pretty much everything about them is up for grabs except probably their general ship design shapes.

There have been Galnet articles mentioning them. They're still canon but have dropped out of the public consciousness a bit.
 
There have been Galnet articles mentioning them. They're still canon but have dropped out of the public consciousness a bit.

Apparently some streamers were at the FD office recently and given some lore regarding Thargoids that they couldn't pass on until tonight.

In Frontier First Encounters, the whole ending where the player steals the mycoid virus vaccine and delivers it to the Thargoids, followed by receiving a Thargoid ship and some exchange of scientific data, never happened in the current Elite: Dangerous universe.

Instead, there was a bugged alternate ending mission that couldn't be completed, where INRA gives the player a more potent version of the mycoid virus, and you deliver that instead. Apparently this is the story now. So there were never any cordial relations or exchanges between Thargoids and humanity.
 
Apparently some streamers were at the FD office recently and given some lore regarding Thargoids that they couldn't pass on until tonight.

In Frontier First Encounters, the whole ending where the player steals the mycoid virus vaccine and delivers it to the Thargoids, followed by receiving a Thargoid ship and some exchange of scientific data, never happened in the current Elite: Dangerous universe.

Instead, there was a bugged alternate ending mission that couldn't be completed, where INRA gives the player a more potent version of the mycoid virus, and you deliver that instead. Apparently this is the story now. So there were never any cordial relations or exchanges between Thargoids and humanity.

Interesting. So we might be facing rather vengeful Thargoids when they finally show up. Good.
 
Interesting. So we might be facing rather vengeful Thargoids when they finally show up. Good.

Yeah. The streamer went on to say some other interesting things that I can only take as opinion, as he didn't really expand on them at all.

He said the Thargoids will drive us out of the inhabited bubble and we will be forced into a guerrilla type war.

He also said he believes he knows where Raxxla is and you will require triple Elite rank to access it. Then he said he only has combat Elite to finish, and when that's done anyone else that is triple Elite will be welcome to join him when he goes looking.
 
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