Mining synth materials in asteroid belts...

[Deleted member 110222]

The sort you use for things like FSD boosts, SRV refuels, etc.?

Do you need a refinery to gather these mats' from space rocks?

Or can you not even do this? I haven't mined in a while because haulage, so I'm none the wiser.

Cheers.

 

[PavelKCZ]

The sort you use for things like FSD boosts, SRV refuels, etc.?

Do you need a refinery to gather these mats' from space rocks?

Or can you not even do this? I haven't mined in a while because haulage, so I'm none the wiser.

Cheers.

You can do this, if you have mining laser. And you do not need limpets and/or refinery, if you are only interested about materials (elements which go to material storage, not to cargo space).

P.S. There is an older thread at this theme https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=251797

 

[Deleted member 110222]

You can do this, if you have mining laser. And you do not need limpets and/or refinery, if you are only interested about materials (elements which go to material storage, not to cargo space).

Yeah, I'm only interested in the Jumponium & the like.

Planning a big expedition see, and wanted to know if it was worth putting a couple mining lasers on my Asp for this purpose.

Many thanks dude.

 

[EValve]

For basic materials; Iron, nickel, phosphorus, sulfur, yes.

For other materials it's quite rare in my experience.

I wouldn't recommend using limpets unless you specifically target the materials, which reduces the cost to 1 limpet per material.
Else they just gather whatever's around you and hold it until you have some space to store it. That said, I haven't tried this without a refinery, perhaps this may differ.

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

You can do this, if you have mining laser. And you do not need limpets and/or refinery, if you are only interested about materials (elements which go to material storage, not to cargo space).

If you did this without limpets it would be a nightmare, as the materials you want would be lost among a cloud of ore fragments. But if you don't have a refinery, the limpets will only collect the materials.
I suggest still taling a prospector controller, as this identifies the better material yielding roids. I've only seen High content roids in Metal Rich rings and not at all in Icy or Metallic, I haven't mined enough in Rocky lately to know if High material roids are present there too.

 

[Boomer Kay]

You can pick them from the contacts tab and scoop them manually.
Basically all you need is a mining laser on a viper or something.

But if you're mining anyway, might as well go all the way and take a small refinery (5 bin) and get some of the more precious ores for selling or missions.
Not a pro at mining, but I found a lot more of the synthesis stuff there than with my even worse planetary expedition skills.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

I get the ideal of a refinery, but this is being asked for an exploration ship that has no room for cargo racks.

 

[PavelKCZ]

If you did this without limpets it would be a nightmare, as the materials you want would be lost among a cloud of ore fragments. But if you don't have a refinery, the limpets will only collect the materials.
I suggest still taling a prospector controller, as this identifies the better material yielding roids. I've only seen High content roids in Metal Rich rings and not at all in Icy or Metallic, I haven't mined enough in Rocky lately to know if High material roids are present there too.

Problem is, that you cannot synthetise the limpets on-board, so the limpet controller and limpets are not usable for longer time outside the bubble (typically for explorers).
On the other hand, capturing materials with cargo scoop is quite easy. Just shoot some fragments, select the material on contact screen, suck material with cargo scoop, select another etc. When you have all materials from let's say 15 fragments, just wait a bit and shoot another lot of fragments.

With a bit of practice, you can scoop salvaged materials even during fights, for example around the Nav Point. I am doing it regulary.

 

[Boomer Kay]

You only need a mining laser.

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

You can pick them from the contacts tab and scoop them manually.

OK. I didn't know that. Good suggestion.
This will be particularly useful for explorers needing systhesis materials, as they aren't going to want to take a limited supply of limpets on a long trip.
edit - ninja'd

 

[Boomer Kay]

Well, you can store 600 mats (which transfer with you to any other ship), so I don't really know if taking a laser with you to mine during the trip is faster or getting a proper mining ship, burning through a good ring and stocking on the stuff you want while making money.

"Blind" mining without prospectors is not really that much fun. I'd try it first before depending on it somewhere far out.

Oh, you might also need a detailed surface scanner to see the ringtype. Otherwise Rocky, metal rich and metallic might be hard to tell apart. (Not sure which ones give what, the metal rich were not bad and gave me a good stock of materials.. about 10x what I had before .. maybe metallic is even better...)

 

[PavelKCZ]

Well, you can store 600 mats, so I don't really know if taking a laser with you to mine during the trip is faster or getting a proper mining ship, burning through a good ring and stocking on the stuff you want while making money.

"Blind" mining without prospectors is not really that much fun.

Yes, probably it is a better approach. But it does not work for me, because my exploring outside a bubble is always an instant idea "Grr, I am bored with trading. Back to home, change ship and let's go to look somewhere...". And mining laser has less weight than SRV hangar

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

It's a pity that limpets can't be synthesised, as it would make exploring/prospecting much more viable. But you get the same mining results in the bubble as you do in distant system where you are the first to ever mine it, so distant prospecting isn't workable ATM.
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The 600 material, mass free, storage seems a little silly when you can use it to make hundreds of tons of fuel and ammunition. I'd rather have less on the ship and be able to store materials in a station or engineer's base.

 

[DrSaphron]

It's a pity that limpets can't be synthesised, as it would make exploring/prospecting much more viable. But you get the same mining results in the bubble as you do in distant system where you are the first to ever mine it, so distant prospecting isn't workable ATM.
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The 600 material, mass free, storage seems a little silly when you can use it to make hundreds of tons of fuel and ammunition. I'd rather have less on the ship and be able to store materials in a station or engineer's base.

Is that 600 total or 600 per resource?