They have always right and the most important things they do, is talking over and over through the cellphone with mom.
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in any case, 37, male. Been interested in all space sims ever since getting Wing Commander for xmas in 1991 (though i played a couple of flight sims before that)
My first Elite-like was Wing Commander: Privateer. Played pretty much all of them between then and now but not Frontier or First encounters so ED was my first Elite game.
in any case, 37, male. Been interested in all space sims ever since getting Wing Commander for xmas in 1991 (though i played a couple of flight sims before that)
My first Elite-like was Wing Commander: Privateer. Played pretty much all of them between then and now but not Frontier or First encounters so ED was my first Elite game.
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So the question is still on the table... Why aren't there more females playing this type of game?
I spent over a decade in the US Military, mostly in mixed-gender units such as the Military Police. I had the opportunity to see males and females in situations of intense danger and stress and I honestly can say I didn't find any difference in terms of performance under such conditions. Usually our most competent shooters were mixed in proportional numbers. But I noticed marked differences in their approach to problem solving and conflict management.
I wouldn't dare to generalize on my empirical findings, as it is difficult to keep track of specific numbers in such conditions, but I'd love it if the females posting here would comment on whether they've noticed similar trends. Also on _why_ do they think the distribution of female gamers is the way it is.
I spent over a decade in the US Military, mostly in mixed-gender units such as the Military Police. I had the opportunity to see males and females in situations of intense danger and stress and I honestly can say I didn't find any difference in terms of performance under such conditions. Usually our most competent shooters were mixed in proportional numbers. But I noticed marked differences in their approach to problem solving and conflict management.
I wouldn't dare to generalize on my empirical findings, as it is difficult to keep track of specific numbers in such conditions, but I'd love it if the females posting here would comment on whether they've noticed similar trends. Also on _why_ do they think the distribution of female gamers is the way it is.
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Male
Old fashioned transport enthusiast... Just as happy shipping cargo in Railworks as Elite - only the enemy there is called a SPAD rather than an NPC.
Love Sci-Fi, especially the writings of Iain M Banks. But I enjoy a lot of other story genres, especially historical spy novels. I also read a lot of technical and historical transport books.
Enjoy films - Sci-Fi, Adventure and War mainly.
One-time Private Pilot - now hung up my goggles.
Keen Photographer.
Married to a wonderful African lady and have a Son who occasionally plays Elite as well.
Old fashioned transport enthusiast... Just as happy shipping cargo in Railworks as Elite - only the enemy there is called a SPAD rather than an NPC.
Love Sci-Fi, especially the writings of Iain M Banks. But I enjoy a lot of other story genres, especially historical spy novels. I also read a lot of technical and historical transport books.
Enjoy films - Sci-Fi, Adventure and War mainly.
One-time Private Pilot - now hung up my goggles.
Keen Photographer.
Married to a wonderful African lady and have a Son who occasionally plays Elite as well.
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I'll rate him 5/7. Extra points for the effort
Agreed, he does deserve the extras
I can't speak for all women, nor can I explain our gaming preferences - I guess like everything else, it's down to personal taste!
I've always had an interest in sci-fi and video games, so ED just comes naturally for me. I played EVE for 6-7 years on and off before making ED my game of choice. I enjoyed Freelancer, although I wasn't too happy being stuck in Trent's body - I wanted to be one of the Golden Chrysanthemums!
I also love Skyrim, the Civ games, Crusader Kings II and sometimes I play F1 on my husband's XBox. I love games that allow for lots of customisation; I can spend hours in character creators!
I don't really enjoy puzzle games (too frustrating), first-person shooters (too samey) or RTS (fun for a bit but I get bored of them quickly).
I'm a bit of an action-woman in RL - I like paintballing, karting and hiking. But I also do relaxing things like art & craft, meditation and playing with my cats.
Make of that what you will
40, nerd male. Yes ... booooring!
I find the results somewhat disappointing, but it was foreseeable. Elite has a legacy way back to the "dark ages of nerdom" and believe me, just to say "computer" in the 80s / 90s was the best way to drive anything female related away from you - and a lot of males too besides. "Professor", "Rocket Scientist" were the nicer nick names they gave you. Well, it has become a cliche since years already, I know - but that's actually my experience and still is to some extend. And now I'm playing ED because I've played Elite back then - and I'm not alone I think (look how old a lot of ED players are!) and this is one of the reasons why ED is pretty male dominated. Another might be that flight / space simulations are per se still something females aren't sooo much interested in playing because of a gazillion reasons, some of them being sad, some of them because sims are by nature nerdy. And nerds are their own species whatever gender they have and still are a minority with still more males than females.
But take a look at MMORPGs - it's a totally different story, I had to learn myself too. When I logged the first time into a MMORPG (SWG) I was pretty damn sure that regardless of what kind of avatars people where choosing, 99% of them were males. Period. I was sooooo wrong given that everything changed "a bit" the last 10 - 20 years. Actually it was pretty close to 50:50 and we're talking about a Star Wars game. Turned out that females like MMORPGs a lot, just like males. And boy were they p**ed when I was writing my ignorant posts about that I never ever believe that there's a real girl behind a female avatar because girls don't play computer games (it were the very early 2000s). That was funny and let me look pretty much like an complete idiot from the stone age. I liked that surprise very much after all, I'm always happy when I see prove for the fact, that technically our brains give a crap which body they inhabit. There are slight differences but that didn't prevent Ada Lovelace from inventing the very basis of all computers in the 19th century.
Why I play ED? For the lulz. ;-) Tech, space, science, lighting up Christmas tree - do I really have to explain it?
I find the results somewhat disappointing, but it was foreseeable. Elite has a legacy way back to the "dark ages of nerdom" and believe me, just to say "computer" in the 80s / 90s was the best way to drive anything female related away from you - and a lot of males too besides. "Professor", "Rocket Scientist" were the nicer nick names they gave you. Well, it has become a cliche since years already, I know - but that's actually my experience and still is to some extend. And now I'm playing ED because I've played Elite back then - and I'm not alone I think (look how old a lot of ED players are!) and this is one of the reasons why ED is pretty male dominated. Another might be that flight / space simulations are per se still something females aren't sooo much interested in playing because of a gazillion reasons, some of them being sad, some of them because sims are by nature nerdy. And nerds are their own species whatever gender they have and still are a minority with still more males than females.
But take a look at MMORPGs - it's a totally different story, I had to learn myself too. When I logged the first time into a MMORPG (SWG) I was pretty damn sure that regardless of what kind of avatars people where choosing, 99% of them were males. Period. I was sooooo wrong given that everything changed "a bit" the last 10 - 20 years. Actually it was pretty close to 50:50 and we're talking about a Star Wars game. Turned out that females like MMORPGs a lot, just like males. And boy were they p**ed when I was writing my ignorant posts about that I never ever believe that there's a real girl behind a female avatar because girls don't play computer games (it were the very early 2000s). That was funny and let me look pretty much like an complete idiot from the stone age. I liked that surprise very much after all, I'm always happy when I see prove for the fact, that technically our brains give a crap which body they inhabit. There are slight differences but that didn't prevent Ada Lovelace from inventing the very basis of all computers in the 19th century.
Why I play ED? For the lulz. ;-) Tech, space, science, lighting up Christmas tree - do I really have to explain it?
So it's been a couple of days since I checked on this thread.
I am quite pleased to see an actual discussion taking place instead of the normal nonsense that takes goes on around here.
And then I read this...
Quote Originally Posted by Willa Allason
I'm a woman and I play Elite Dangerous. I'm also trans...I dunno if that has a big effect on my attraction to the game but I guess I was socialized male and sci-fi has always been a big part of my life...?
This piqued my interest some.
So if you say trans, does that mean transsexual? If so, does that mean that you were born female but identify (or feel) as a male? That opens up all kinds of psyche related stuff that I never thought about. Do you play FPS shooters too? I wonder how deep the male identification goes.
When you play Elite, do you focus on a specific role or do you run the gamut?
This thread is much more entertaining than the 'nerf this, buff that' crap. I get to learn a few things about the digital people around me.
I am quite pleased to see an actual discussion taking place instead of the normal nonsense that takes goes on around here.
And then I read this...
Quote Originally Posted by Willa Allason
I'm a woman and I play Elite Dangerous. I'm also trans...I dunno if that has a big effect on my attraction to the game but I guess I was socialized male and sci-fi has always been a big part of my life...?
This piqued my interest some.
So if you say trans, does that mean transsexual? If so, does that mean that you were born female but identify (or feel) as a male? That opens up all kinds of psyche related stuff that I never thought about. Do you play FPS shooters too? I wonder how deep the male identification goes.
When you play Elite, do you focus on a specific role or do you run the gamut?
This thread is much more entertaining than the 'nerf this, buff that' crap. I get to learn a few things about the digital people around me.
...and it is just as likely that when you do meet one, it will be something you would never want.
I just want to throw something out about imagination.
My greatest pleasure in playing Elite (and Privateer, and other space games before it) comes from living the fantasy of a spacefarer. I love trading, exploring and the occasional pew pew. I love the openness and un-scripted nature of the background environment.
Imagination adds immensely to the already rich gaming experience.
Question for those interested in this thread, where are you on the imagination spectrum?
Do you roleplay/write your own story in your head while you play? And is there a difference between women and men in this area?
My greatest pleasure in playing Elite (and Privateer, and other space games before it) comes from living the fantasy of a spacefarer. I love trading, exploring and the occasional pew pew. I love the openness and un-scripted nature of the background environment.
Imagination adds immensely to the already rich gaming experience.
Question for those interested in this thread, where are you on the imagination spectrum?
Do you roleplay/write your own story in your head while you play? And is there a difference between women and men in this area?
Absolutely!
I write logs of my character's adventures and enjoy RPing too. My gameplay is based on creating narrative, not making credits. I do stuff that I think my character would do and have fun with it.
Do you, or do you plan to publish your logs as part of the background lore of the game? I've been thinking of doing that.
Roleplay? Hell yes, but i often wonder on how the Elite galaxy responds to my actions,
nonetheless i shall continue my head-story
When it comes down to differenciate between the genders,
an extreme lifestyle like piracy, being constantly on the look out for danger,
does change the perception a lot.
You don't necessarily ask yourself what gender your target has,
you got to survive.
Slowly drifting towards a dark and dank existence,
only illuminated by moments of joy, to shortly after
be eradicated by people out for your life,
your bounty and your ship.
When it comes to taboo topics however, like slavery and kidnapping
that sense kicks back in.
We all know what is likely to happen to the different genders.
In general i am interested to see how people's perception
of their own story varies tied to their gender.
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I do too.
Sometimes... And not well....
And that's makes Inara great. I use the captain logs for that. Haven't used them in a while, but it's fun to flesh out your own travels.
I'll go on a trucking run for a while than change it up and go on a bounty hunter kick in a specific sector and run patrols.
I'm currently do that same thing, but on the planet's surface. Doing rocket runs in a souped up ImpEagle is great. I have my own little A-10 in space.
If I had to put in it a scale of 1-10..... I would go with a 6.89