Think you'll find that was going to happen anyway, largely because of the endless stories about Western hating Muslims guys with 10 wives and 29 kids, getting luxury homes in Kensington, at tax payer's expense.
General / Off-Topic EU Referendum (UK only) - to Brexit or not to Brexit
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Think you'll find that was going to happen anyway, largely because of the endless stories about Western hating Muslims guys with 10 wives and 29 kids, getting luxury homes in Kensington, at tax payer's expense.
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It's called a dead cat bounce.
Don't try it. He's a hopeless case.
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As long as you realise you've just, today, put the UK economy back about 10 years. That's something you can go and look at. Get your pension statement printed off and weep.
I can't believe the Brexit camp is on about lies, when Nigel has just confirmed the Whopper he told about the £350million was baloney. Today we sold our children down the river, it's a dark day for all of us.
On the upside Boris and Gove will be in charge soon, so that should all work out well for the most vulnerable in society.
Cosmo, please don't gloat, its not how one make peace in this world. We all need to think in a different way. I hope Ireland and Scotland will get independence too.
For too long this world has been locked into geopolitical positions where they don't belong, its time to end it, and its actually a sad day, the nation is divided not united.
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Yeah, I didn't like that reply at all, not at all....
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OMG and I thought we had Dave as a Leader - he should have took the vote but made a decision based on it rather than through it as an advisable decision. Sure we are democracy but when did the ppl really ever RUN the country? Then all the opposition parties are only after 1 thing - to get in power themselves. They should have had a collective government talk on this to decide and have further talks with EU to give/take as Switzerland do. For Dave to pick up his ball and walk away is not Leadership but is being kicked in the teeth by his very own device. Can you blame him? This referendum only shows that half the country want CHANGE and it's not ALL of SCOTLAND that even voted. Only 1/4 of the UK population bothered to Vote and half of the Leaves are CHAVS!
Well, it's the same in all countries. You need financial hub cities to work with other countries and then 75% of the population are deprived of any wealth. 25% of these have nothing and can never expect to whatever they vote for. It's DANGEROUS Democracy. Why did we elect for a Leader? OMG!
Well, it's the same in all countries. You need financial hub cities to work with other countries and then 75% of the population are deprived of any wealth. 25% of these have nothing and can never expect to whatever they vote for. It's DANGEROUS Democracy. Why did we elect for a Leader? OMG!
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Do you realise that looks like a propaganda poster out of the dystopian film 'V for Vendetta'? Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.
Agreed with you 100%, until this bit:
It's not over until the fat lady sings. The UK parliamentary petition website has crashed under the weight of petitions for a revision to the vote. Hopefully enough people will now see sense, either that their 'protest' vote was cast lightly, or that by handing the country to the Leave crowd, they are leaping from the frying pan into the fire, and either a new government will be formed that is not bound by the referendum, or a second vote will be held. It's ugly but now is the time to be brave.
See that's the problem - risks to sovereignty have always been a convenient illusion, conjured to scare the masses. Now it has been instrumentalised to hand the country to people who associate with every stripe of fascism and nationalism in the European Parliament.
Godwin's Law is out of time. It was designed for a kinder, gentler time when people used comparisons lightly in discussions about Unix text editors. Now the spectre of nationalism and racism is taking on physical form again, it's time to repeal Godwin and use historical comparisons to prevent further disaster.
It's like a Civ game aiming for a Diplomacy/Economic victory but going horribly wrong!
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Yeah, I didn't like that reply at all, not at all....
Apologies, I did not mean to upset anyone. You are right, we need to pull together on this somehow and put our faith that the EU will be feeling benevolent in its negotiations with us.
Genuinely surprised at the result, but it means the news will actually be worth watching for the next few years. Scotland will doubtless have a second independence referendum (and rightly so) but what will be really interesting there is what they will do for currency. The pound? Really? Use a currency of a country outwith the EU, over which they have zero control? Doesn't seem plausible. So what then, the Euro? I can't see much appetite for that, even though the appetite for EU itself is there.
Scotland will doubtless have a second independence referendum (and rightly so) but what will be really interesting there is what they will do for currency. The pound? Really? Use a currency of a country outwith the EU, over which they have zero control? Doesn't seem plausible. So what then, the Euro? I can't see much appetite for that, even though the appetite for EU itself is there.
Ah well.
On the bright side, this result will help to further the cause of an independent Scotland and a unified Ireland.
(and maybe even further down the line and independent Wales? Dare I dream? )
On the bright side, this result will help to further the cause of an independent Scotland and a unified Ireland.
(and maybe even further down the line and independent Wales? Dare I dream?
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That has always been the silver lining.
Indeed.
I remember this, and also remember at the time pointing out the possibility of the exact scenario we now find ourselves in.
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Merkel announced her resignation !!! No just kidding
Off-topic: I don't think she would ever resign unless she is absolutely forced to (for example by severe health problems). Her primary goal seems to be to beat the record of longest time being chancellor; current record is 16 years, by Helmut Kohl, she is at 11 years and has no intention to stop. Beyond that she is mostly devoid of any particular political agenda, she does whatever secures her position and power, adopting and dropping policies as needed, treating even people in her own party like chess figures. One day she says you have her "greatest trust", next day she tells you to resign from your office.
I honestly suspect she is a psychopath.
Back on topic: I would welcome an independent Scotland into the EU.
Ah well.
On the bright side, this result will help to further the cause of an independent Scotland and a unified Ireland.
(and maybe even further down the line and independent Wales? Dare I dream?
You can dream. I want to create an independent island where my house is.
Most of those stories came from "your super sexationalist Sun"... who never did well against European laws. I guess it's gloating that "It's the SUN what did it!".. I wouldn't know. I don't read it. But if it is taking the credit for this "victory" then I hope after a few years when we discover what a blunder this was, it accepts the blame.
Yup. A lot of the 'Brexits' I spoke with seem to operate under the impression that 'Great Britain' is still a thing; that the country sits at the centre of an empire on which the sun never sets, that Britannia still rules the waves and that the country is still some kind of industrial power-house.
None of them stopped to consider that, for the many things that are good about this country, we're politically and economically on our own we're simply a little island off the coast of the continent, a little island made up of smaller countries.
They seemed to think that they would be able to Leave, trade and operate with the E.U. as if nothing had changed, and giving no thought to the question of Scottish and Irish independence.
The real possibility now exists for Scottish independence, a strong argument can be made for a unified Eire both of whom have voted to Remain.
What then England?
I do wonder how many LEAVE votes are comparible to a child being unhappy with the way mummy/daddy has been treating them, but in truth unware of what is actually involved in that role/bigger picture, and as such ignoring much of the good?
Unfair?
Has anybody told Nigel Farage where to go to collect the British Empire this morning?
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