Something brexit never even mentioned once.... and on top of that we did not get the right to vote , so it just not fair , not even close
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However your children lives there, so you have a legal right no matter in what way you look at it.
also dual nationality is allowed in the UK so no need to give it up.
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Now then I wonder how ISIS (if they are genuine or simply a continued/ supplied CIA gorilla army) take a view on Britain. More attacks have been in USA & the rest of Europe. I wonder how this little island is now seen to be of any consequence.
Britain will still need Imigrant Workers as no Brits want the same jobs they take. No worries there but is just more of a loop to climb through in getting your wife/kids over here and travel between them. In my experience the Immigration kiosks at Airports never work as intended for the Lane Names of "Only UK Nationals, Only Foreigners, Only No Bags,etc" but all merge into 1 under the late times they must meet.
Britain will still need Imigrant Workers as no Brits want the same jobs they take. No worries there but is just more of a loop to climb through in getting your wife/kids over here and travel between them. In my experience the Immigration kiosks at Airports never work as intended for the Lane Names of "Only UK Nationals, Only Foreigners, Only No Bags,etc" but all merge into 1 under the late times they must meet.
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They are the very creation of the Crocks In Action team, just like Mr. long beard was it back in the 80's.
Look there are so many things going on in the world its very difficult to catch up,and find the up's and downs in all of it.
Bit premature to be spazzing out mate.
(a) UK won't be leaving EU immediately
(b) UK/EU will need to come to an agreement re Visa / Expat rights in next 2 years
(c) Failing that marry your Fiancee
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I want to marry her , we both do.Bit premature to be spazzing out mate.
(a) UK won't be leaving EU immediately
(b) UK/EU will need to come to an agreement re Visa / Expat rights in next 2 years
(c) Failing that marry your Fiancee
But sadly that would be up to the judges as she is handipcaed and under protection.
I am handicaped as well , just in different ways.
I may have over-reacted and it does look like the EU is going to fall , and to be honest maybe thats good.
I like the idea of the EU , but we just have to see.
However I hope some other union takes charge because we do need to stand as one
I don't understand your aversion to "being french". If you've lived there so long anyway, why is this an issue? I see your viewpoint about a conceived labelling but if this doesn't matter to you anyway then so what?
Nationals mean nothing to me.
My issue is I have family in england as well.
I go to the UK very often to see them. so I need to be british for that.
I am going to try to get both , but who knows whats going to happen
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It isn't in Holland. Someone with dutch nationality isn't allowed to have another nationality, unless there are express exclusions to that law. Morrocco and Turkey nationals can have dual natonality with dutch nationality. British cannot according to Dutch law.
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Ah, I see. Well don't lose heart. There's so much negativity about the exit right now, as people are worried about change. I'm sure things will calm down within a few months.
maybe that will change now?
I believe that it is a common misconception that Brexit means we are just going to chuck every non-British citizen out in 2 years!
No - all this should mean is that we decide who can stay using sensible criteria (basically how useful you are to us) and this should apply across the whole of Europe.
No - all this should mean is that we decide who can stay using sensible criteria (basically how useful you are to us) and this should apply across the whole of Europe.
I live in france not england.
I have the papers to get double nationality and it looks like a long and painfull ride
But its worth it, I can tell you that first hand.
After 5 years living in France, you are entitled to ask for "naturalization":
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F2213
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F2213
What isn't a long and painful ride in france?
Coming from a french guy who's fled to the UK.
My guess is this;
It's going to make less difference than people think.
We will put in place trading agreements with other nations. We will put in place immigration agreements with other nations. In fact the main difference is that such agreements with be voluntary between states, and not forced upon them by the EU. Nobody is going to be stupid enough to make major decisions now whilst emotions still run high. When all the hubris and fuss has settled down and calm heads prevail the UK will - almost certainly - leave the EU. But I think a lot of what the EU does will be replicated by new agreements between the UK and the EU or it's component states. Tell me. What is the stop the UK "leaving" the EU, but signing treaties to accept virtually everything it stands for?
I seriously doubt it's in the interests of *anyone* to be parochial, awkward, aggressive and nationalistic. And that's Assuming we do leave the EU and don't immediately join it's successor or similar organisation and that Britain stands on her own. We may have "voted" to leave, but that doesn't actually bind the government to action, and it certainly doesn't bind future governments to action and it certainly doesn't stop individual counties (England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales etc) from re-joining on their own and it absolutely, 100 percent totally doesn't stop us from signing reciprocal agreements and treaties that replicate the best bits of the EU.
Provided, that is, that everyone proceeds in good faith. And I think they will. We want their goods, they want our Money and vice-versa - we enjoy cordial relationships with all EU states and I don't think leaving the clique is going to change that.
My guess is that this will largely be a paperwork change. Assuming the whole thing doesn't come unglued now, and we don't end up joining a remarkably-similar (although hopefully rather less messy and labyrinthine) organisation that supersedes it.
It's going to make less difference than people think.
We will put in place trading agreements with other nations. We will put in place immigration agreements with other nations. In fact the main difference is that such agreements with be voluntary between states, and not forced upon them by the EU. Nobody is going to be stupid enough to make major decisions now whilst emotions still run high. When all the hubris and fuss has settled down and calm heads prevail the UK will - almost certainly - leave the EU. But I think a lot of what the EU does will be replicated by new agreements between the UK and the EU or it's component states. Tell me. What is the stop the UK "leaving" the EU, but signing treaties to accept virtually everything it stands for?
I seriously doubt it's in the interests of *anyone* to be parochial, awkward, aggressive and nationalistic. And that's Assuming we do leave the EU and don't immediately join it's successor or similar organisation and that Britain stands on her own. We may have "voted" to leave, but that doesn't actually bind the government to action, and it certainly doesn't bind future governments to action and it certainly doesn't stop individual counties (England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales etc) from re-joining on their own and it absolutely, 100 percent totally doesn't stop us from signing reciprocal agreements and treaties that replicate the best bits of the EU.
Provided, that is, that everyone proceeds in good faith. And I think they will. We want their goods, they want our Money and vice-versa - we enjoy cordial relationships with all EU states and I don't think leaving the clique is going to change that.
My guess is that this will largely be a paperwork change. Assuming the whole thing doesn't come unglued now, and we don't end up joining a remarkably-similar (although hopefully rather less messy and labyrinthine) organisation that supersedes it.
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Touchée.
I guess going to the bread shop is easy , dont need to present your papers for that. (however it would be funny)