General / Off-Topic EU Referendum (UK only) - to Brexit or not to Brexit

[Fyrd Judge]

One simple law change and they can. And the EU courts can simply decline you then.

Wouldn't be the first time that a government or organization bends to law to overcome a crisis.

Doesn't matter we already signed the treaty, if they change the law it effects only those nations that sign up to the EU after the law changes. This is how all contracts work

Uk will still have legal ground to say they broke the agreement they signed and sue for trillions in lost trade over decades.

 

[Becks]

Again, you have to remember here that to make that one simple law change we'd have to agree as we are still part of the EU until we submit article 50

I doubt that the UK would be asked to vote if it's about a special law to exclude the UK. You don't ask someone if it's okay to kick him out of your club before you do, do you?

 

[Sooden]

I can only advise you to watch the whole vid The man knows what he's talking about...

not disagreeing that he knows his stuff but i see what your dong there, trying to play back me telling you to watch a video

..
But if smaller businesses are damaged it hurts less people than when bigger businesses are damaged. If BMW should decide to stop manufacturing in Britain that'll hurt a lot more than when a start up fails (in an economic sense ofc, it would be an disaster for the people involved in both cases) ...

so you mean, allowing legislation that is good for the big businesses and to hell with the small? (as the EU legislation was good for big, bad for small)

if so, sounding a bit like what the crazys said was happening, A corporate governance.. hmm , getting the tinfoil hat ready.

grow the big companies, letting the small and new fail (they just cant afford to get in on the ground floor) and invest in the interests of the few remaining big companies. after all the big companies create the most jobs..

...yeah they do, and if it carries on, the only jobs, and we are held to the demands of the few. I don't wanna see that happen.

its sucks , relay does suck what happening, but it better than going down the path we where.

but all your arguments will fall on deaf ears of anyone that was disadvantage by the EU... just as the EU Didn't listen to disadvantage.

 

[Becks]

Doesn't matter we already signed the treaty, if they change the law it effects only those nations that sign up to the EU after the law changes. This is how all contracts work

Uk will still have legal ground to say the broke the agreement they signed and sue for trillions in lost trade over decades.

And you'd risk your future relations to the EU for that? Remember the EU as trading partner is more important for the UK than the UK is for the EU.

 

[Fyrd Judge]

And you'd risk your future relations to the EU for that? Remember the EU as trading partner is more important for the UK than the UK is for the EU.

EU might not be here, other nations are demanding votes as we type. No one knows the out come of them, but have them and that is more worry for other nations to invest in the EU.

 

[Arconedas]

Doesn't matter we already signed the treaty, if they change the law it effects only those nations that sign up to the EU after the law changes. This is how all contracts work

Uk will still have legal ground to say the broke the agreement they signed and sue for trillions in lost trade over decades.

There is no need for EU to throw UK out as soon as possible. Its just that Britain needs to now OFFICIALLY (hand in resignation) decide whether they are leaving or not. This uncertainty is the thing thats causing havok in the markets. Once thats done, it really doesnt matter how long the negotiations take.

 

[Becks]

not disagreeing that he knows his stuff but i see what your dong there, trying to play back me telling you to watch a video

Hehe, guilty

so you mean, allowing legislation that is good for the big businesses and to hell with the small? (as the EU legislation was good for big, bad for small)

if so, sounding a bit like what the crazys said was happening, A corporate governance.. hmm , getting the tinfoil hat ready.

grow the big companies, letting the small and new fail (they just cant afford to get in on the ground floor) and invest in the interests of the few remaining big companies. after all the big companies great the most jobs..

...yeah they do, and if it carries on, the only jobs, and we are held to the demands of the few. I don't wanna see that happen.

its sucks , relay does suck what happening, but it better than going down the path we where.

but all your arguments will fall on deaf ears of anyone that was disadvantage by the EU... just as the EU Didn't listen to disadvantage.

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lol of course not.

Smaller businesses are important, too.

But I don't have enough knowledge about the regulations for them to argue about specific cases.

The EU is not perfect. But ditching them will not solve your problem.


Edit: Going to be away for a while (Yes, I actually have other stuff to do than arguing in online forums all day xD)

 

[Luniticisi]

I doubt that the UK would be asked to vote if it's about a special law to exclude the UK. You don't ask someone if it's okay to kick him out of your club before you do, do you?

That would breach EU law once again, and remember they would have to get X- amount of member states to agree and whilst some at the EU seem to be pushing this idea there are a lot of EU countries that want to trade with the UK once we leave, and voting to push the UK into rushing into submitting Article 50 whilst the UK is effectively without a leader. (yes I know Cameron is still Prime minister but we have to sort out Conservative leadership before we can embark on such huge negotiations) is not something that some of these countries would be willing to do

 

[Sunleader]

Dutch anti-immigration politician Geert Wilders said the Netherlands deserved a "Nexit" vote while Italy's Northern League said: "Now it's our turn".

The domino effect has started. Explains why Brussels is flapping about like a mad cow

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36615879

Yeah...

""The UK's vote to leave the EU has sparked demands from far-right parties for referendums in other member states.""

Congratulations on boosting the Parties which share the Policies once enacted by Hitler....

Not to gloat here any further, the UK now has the EU by the balls.

Ehm....
Yeah.......
You really got us there........

You Crashed your Economy over an Voting. And now your Stalling for Time to actually Follow that Voting. While you keep Paying us Billions which you wont have any Benefit from because People know you will Leave and will thus not Invest into your Country.

You pretty much Maximized the Disadvantages of your EU Membership. And Minimized the Advantages of your EU Membership.
And now you got us by the Balls as you can keep that Status as long as you Want........


Mate no Offense. But do you even Realize what your Saying there ????

 

[Fyrd Judge]

A Question to all the EU supporters.

"If Brussles said next year that they are creating a United states of Europe, would you support it?

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Yeah...

""The UK's vote to leave the EU has sparked demands from far-right parties for referendums in other member states.""

Is this the best made up waffle you could think up? Many people voted out in the UK were socialists.

Far right and left wing wanted out as did none of these groups.

 

[Luniticisi]

Is this the best made up waffle you could think up? Many people voted out in the UK were socialists.

To be fair here, that quote posted by Sunleader is lifted directly off the link you provided.

 

[Arconedas]

A Question to all the EU supporters.

"If Brussles said next year that they are creating a United states of Europe, would you support it?

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Is this the best made up waffle you could think up? Many people voted out in the UK were socialists.

Pointless question, since thats not happening. But my answer is nope.

 

[DD_Crash]

[QUOTE=Becks;4153194
The EU is not perfect. But ditching them will not solve your problem.

The problem is that the bureaucrats think it IS perfect, or at least not far from it. They are unwilling to listen to their citizens and as a result things will only get worse. It neednt have been like this,

 

[Fyrd Judge]

To be fair here, that quote posted by Sunleader is lifted directly off the link you provided.

It doesn't explain the fact far right and far left were sparked up to vote out in the UK.

It is the typical logic for SOME people and the media to use the far right as a link to people, who wanted out of the EU, or want a grip on immigration.

We got so used to it in the UK we ignore it. Political Correctness was a 90s thing it's dead now.

 

[Sunleader]

A Question to all the EU supporters.

"If Brussles said next year that they are creating a United states of Europe, would you support it?

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Is this the best made up waffle you could think up? Many people voted out in the UK were socialists.

Far right and left wing wanted out as did none of these groups.

Mate. That Quote is FROM YOUR LINK.

But good that you yourself Admit this to be Rubbish lol.....

 

[r3per]

Dutch anti-immigration politician Geert Wilders said the Netherlands deserved a "Nexit" vote while Italy's Northern League said: "Now it's our turn".

The domino effect has started. Explains why Brussels is flapping about like a mad cow

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36615879

+1 o7



[video=youtube_share;z000UgicT-8]https://youtu.be/z000UgicT-8[/video]

 

[Fyrd Judge]

Mate. That Quote is FROM YOUR LINK.

But good that you yourself Admit this to be Rubbish lol.....

What are you on about?

 

[Luniticisi]

It doesn't explain the fact far right and far left were sparked up to vote out in the UK.

It is the typical logic for SOME people and the media to use far right as a link to people, who wanted out of the EU, or want a grip on immigration.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you.
The fact that some people feel the need to brand anyone who voted 'Leave' (even on the grounds of immigration) as a racist, is fundamentally wrong on so many levels.

 

[Trinity Star]

"We're concerned about immigration"

"hush hush you aren't allowed to say that"

"but we're concerned about immigration!"

"no be quite, we know best you are all being racist we will ignore you now"

 

[Fyrd Judge]

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you.
The fact that some people feel the need to brand anyone who voted 'Leave' (even on the grounds of immigration) as a racist, is fundamentally wrong on so many levels.

The other fact is, the left wing preach hatred openly to Jews in the UK, they seem to think that is ok. But heh talk about immigration then the left wing accuse you of a racist . LOL WORK THAT OUT