UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn

[Commandeur_Brin]

Looking down on the barnacles has a similar head as the probe, is it possible they are being launched from there hence them pointing back?

Maybe it's a subterranean species we're dealing with. Is there any caves in game?

sadly I remember the devs saying that caves will never be part of the game due to technical difficulties that just can't be overcome.

 

[Omategomatete]

Looking down on the barnacles has a similar head as the probe, is it possible they are being launched from there hence them pointing back?

Maybe it's a subterranean species we're dealing with. Is there any caves in game?

No, at least not at the moment. I guess caves could only form on planets with volcanism? Or with water?

Edit: Ninja'd by Commandeur Brin

 

[Cometborne]

I'm heading to Merope 2A to check if I can scan an intact barnacle and get a result.

You can scan an intact barnacle, but still get "data corrupted". During my verification run in Witch Head Sector, I scanned all seven barnacles in the six locations, and now have about 740 kCr worth of Barnacle Scan Data in my transactions tab, which will pay for my running costs. Scanning a barnacle twice or the second dome of a double barnacle will give an "Alert! Organic Structure already scanned" message. This looks to reset itself after some time, I scanned the two barnacles discovered by Midnight Ninja on Witch Head Sector GW-W c1-4 A 4 a week ago, got a scan data package, and sold that. This week, I was able to scan them again, and got another data package. I have not tried if scumming allows further scans, or if you can travel back and forth between the barnacle and a station and get several payouts per week this way.

Let me check my notes:
Witch Head Sector LC-V c2-10 A 4, -16.5359/151.8175, d12nd, scan value 126486 (previously scanned)
Witch Head Sector LC-V c2-10 A 6, -24.4643/-26.8704, d12nd, scan value 74328 (new find by Kerevan, first scan)
Witch Head Sector LC-V c2-10 B 1, 4.0266/-40.0450, d12nd, scan value 195566 (new find by Kerevan, first scan)
Witch Head Sector LC-V c2-10 B 2, -0.5026/-163.3102, d12nd, scan value 151538 (new find by Kerevan, first scan)
Witch Head Sector GW-W c1-4 A 4, -65.9886/-173.642, d24nd, scan value 50168 (previously scanned)
Witch Head Sector GW-W c1-4 A 4, -24.8372/-119.8862, i12nd, scan value 112037 (previously scanned)

The only double barnacle left in Witch Head Sector gave the lowest payout, and the only intact one is just in third fourth place.

Scanning intact spikes will not give a monetary reward, but will inform you what minerals are in there. Destroyed spikes cannot be scanned.

 

[Commandeur_Brin]

I try to keep up and stay active in this thread and mostly my theories are ignored. Im cool with that, most of them are bogus anyway haha. It just seems you guys are pretty set on what you believe and how you do things, and don't like ideas that conflict with your own. This way of thinking has you chasing your own tails and missing obvious in game and forum hints.

The whole mystery has gone from being a community driven event to a Canon driven event. The story has multiple paths it could potentially go down, but it is no longer in the hands of the community as a whole.

You share only specific information, that which you find to be relevant. Try requesting details on a specific test and I am ignored or told to not bother pursuing that line of thought for no other reason than it is unlikely. Someone comes up with a theory or a test to try that hasnt been done and does not personally have the ability to do it themselves. You would think there would be someone here that would say "actually i am pretty sick of flying around staring down at dirt, maybe I will try that". Instead the person with the idea has to either try it themselves or forget about it, potentially missing a key piece of the puzzle in the process. With the most prolific group using these methods it sends a poor message to the rest of the community on what is important and what to do with specific items.

So people end up shooting things or repeating irrelevant tests over and over trying to get different results, then scratching their heads when they cant work out what's going on. And they call it science.

We are missing out and going to miss out on really cool stuff because of a Neanderthal approach to science. We also have no chance of changing things now because the the people who promote this approach have gained too much publicity. This irritates me greatly, for I feel like a huge choice has been made for everyone, but not everyone gets a say in the final outcome. One of my favorite things about this game is the incredible amount of choices a player has, and I dont want someone else making them for me.

I just have one request to the powers that be. If possible, please make it so that any consequences for the atrocities committed to the barnacles are relevant to each CMDR. I know I am not the only one who has treated the barnacles humanely, observing and recording rather than and destroying. Myself and those similar should not be punished for crimes committed by others. It wont surprise me if all humans are targeted. I understand the barnacles are sentient but I don't know if they are smart enough to distinguish one hairless ape from another, or if they will even care...

If that's the case then let me sign up to offer my services to the barnacles now. If I am given the choice I will join with the barnacles, I will help them eradicate humanity. Our species has gone too far this time and I am ashamed...

I've read your many theories and experiment, and I am eager to read more ! I've also tried sharing my opinions here but sadly the forum is not a proper medium to discuss things and keep track. Keep up the good work. No one knows how the truth will unravel !

 

[RagingxPenguin]

No, at least not at the moment. I guess caves could only form on planets with volcanism? Or with water?

My thoughts also. As someone pointed out caves are a no go.

My thoughts are the barnacles are self sustaining outposts.
They mine needed material and can send probes/UAs out at will. I suspect they can replicate our ships (anyone recall the diamond back with the highly irregular flight pattern out side a station sometime ago?) as the thargoids were pretty advanced (may not be thargoids but after being attacked as they were I'd be looking for revenge)

 

[CookieJarviz]

Good luck to everyone who goes searching on Merope 5C. Personally I believe it is trying to hint at an interaction that has been missed in relation to growing barnacles. If anyone is out checking the barnacle site there could you please let me know as much info as possible? The state of it is most important to me currently, and the previous state it was in.

Edit: To clarify, I do not believe the initial search of Merope 5c missed any of the newly discovered barnacles or anything else. I believe these new barnacles have grown between now and then and my goal is to understand how the whole process works.

Again with the growing... im 99.9% sure you CANT grow a barnacle. We found a UP and it points to merope. So just help look.

 

[Cmdr_Z_COBRA_666]

Awesome pic totally explains everything !

Agreed!

 

[CookieJarviz]

I've read your many theories and experiment, and I am eager to read more ! I've also tried sharing my opinions here but sadly the forum is not a proper medium to discuss things and keep track. Keep up the good work. No one knows how the truth will unravel !

I doubt growing a barnacle is possible. It would not make sense in any shape or fourm.

 

[piy]

I doubt growing a barnacle is possible. It would not make sense in any shape or fourm.

Do you have anything to suggest that barnicals CAN'T be grown? If not. Then it's a valid reserch theory. Even if you are rite. That's still a 00.01% chance he grows one.

Each to there own. o7

 

[Han_Zen]

I've read your many theories and experiment, and I am eager to read more ! I've also tried sharing my opinions here but sadly the forum is not a proper medium to discuss things and keep track. Keep up the good work. No one knows how the truth will unravel !

It's the way it is. These are busy times. UPs are found, Barnacles show up in different nebulae and people are working on their engineer upgrades.
This game is a hobby for people. You can't force anyone to methodically log every test. Particularly as the rules constantly change, with new patches.

The Canonn does not sit on information that is not available in the threads.

It's easier to get attention to fringe theories in quiet periods. We have long periods of quiet in here, when nothing much happens.

I've seen dozens of people burn out in these threads. They putt in countless hours of effort and neither the game nor the community kept up with their pace. Some of them are gone, some of them have come back after a break.

 

[CookieJarviz]

Do you have anything to suggest that barnicals CAN'T be grown? If not. Then it's a valid reserch theory. Even if you are rite. That's still a 00.01% chance he grows one.

Each to there own. o7

To each there own yes but I think everyone needs to focus on finding an unknown probe. Not some theories. the UP point to 5C for unknown reasons.

 

[ilo]

Again with the growing... im 99.9% sure you CANT grow a barnacle. We found a UP and it points to merope. So just help look.

BluWolve has a theory, and his efforts to prove it right or wrong are nothing but admirable. He is helping already.

 

[crushdepth]

Do you have anything to suggest that barnicals CAN'T be grown? If not. Then it's a valid reserch theory. Even if you are rite. That's still a 00.01% chance he grows one.

Each to there own. o7

They are living things and therefore must grow and reproduce *somehow*. Whether they can do this naturally or not (being genetically engineered organisms) and whether the game allows for it or not, who knows.

 

[piy]

To each there own yes but I think everyone needs to focus on finding an unknown probe. Not some theories. the UP point to 5C for unknown reasons.

Yes and I do agree with you. BluWolve is asking for help. But unfortunately people are busy and or don't have the data he needs. I think he just feels ignored. Which is not the case. I hope he gets his field of barnicals!

 

[RonkerZ]

If history will repeat again, will UP's become just as common UA's? Shell 2.0?

 

[crushdepth]

To each there own yes but I think everyone needs to focus on finding an unknown probe. Not some theories. the UP point to 5C for unknown reasons.

The orientation / transmission behaviour of the UAs logically suggests the presence of a receiving station in the Merope system. The behaviour of the UP suggests that it might be on Merope 5C.

 

[CHOPP3R]

Or they're looking for something. The UAs identified the star. The probes then go in for a closer look.
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Perhaps the Feds took one of their barnacles..

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All the double barnacles discovered so far now seem to have been fixed apart from Witch Head Sector GW-W c1-4 A 4 -24.8372 -119.8862 now in a destroyed state but still a double and both show on the scanner Confirmed 26/6/16

 

[PaulR]

I try to keep up and stay active in this thread and mostly my theories are ignored. Im cool with that, most of them are bogus anyway haha. It just seems you guys are pretty set on what you believe and how you do things, and don't like ideas that conflict with your own. This way of thinking has you chasing your own tails and missing obvious in game and forum hints.

The whole mystery has gone from being a community driven event to a Canon driven event. The story has multiple paths it could potentially go down, but it is no longer in the hands of the community as a whole.

You share only specific information, that which you find to be relevant. Try requesting details on a specific test and I am ignored or told to not bother pursuing that line of thought for no other reason than it is unlikely. Someone comes up with a theory or a test to try that hasnt been done and does not personally have the ability to do it themselves. You would think there would be someone here that would say "actually i am pretty sick of flying around staring down at dirt, maybe I will try that". Instead the person with the idea has to either try it themselves or forget about it, potentially missing a key piece of the puzzle in the process. With the most prolific group using these methods it sends a poor message to the rest of the community on what is important and what to do with specific items.

So people end up shooting things or repeating irrelevant tests over and over trying to get different results, then scratching their heads when they cant work out what's going on. And they call it science.

We are missing out and going to miss out on really cool stuff because of a Neanderthal approach to science. We also have no chance of changing things now because the the people who promote this approach have gained too much publicity. This irritates me greatly, for I feel like a huge choice has been made for everyone, but not everyone gets a say in the final outcome. One of my favorite things about this game is the incredible amount of choices a player has, and I dont want someone else making them for me.

I just have one request to the powers that be. If possible, please make it so that any consequences for the atrocities committed to the barnacles are relevant to each CMDR. I know I am not the only one who has treated the barnacles humanely, observing and recording rather than and destroying. Myself and those similar should not be punished for crimes committed by others. It wont surprise me if all humans are targeted. I understand the barnacles are sentient but I don't know if they are smart enough to distinguish one hairless ape from another, or if they will even care...

If that's the case then let me sign up to offer my services to the barnacles now. If I am given the choice I will join with the barnacles, I will help them eradicate humanity. Our species has gone too far this time and I am ashamed...

On the contrary, i' m very interested in seeing if you mansge to get some interaction between the barnacle and a UA or a up , ua and barnacle together.
I tried putting a UA and a Barney together and I waited. Nothing happened.

I remember that at some point when hovering close to the Barney, our engines would shut down. But we where told that it was a bug... who knows all those crashed condors found around the metope 2A barnacle can't t have fallen out of the sky for no reason.

I still believe that the game engine has not been built to give us that type of interaction, or that we just don't understand how to get it to happen.

 

[[VR]tailgunner30uk]

Jeez.


It's Doomlord, from the excellent 80's Comic Eagle (well the latest version. My Dad used to read Eagle when he was a kid in the 50s). I read every one in that latest run. As well as Doomlord there was of course Dan Dare, Death Wish, Computer Warrior, and more that I have forgotten.

I knew I had seen him somewhere, I just couldn't pull out of the dark recesses of my mind. I will now fully refresh my memory of that epic comic. Thank you.

 

[Han_Zen]

BluWolve has a theory, and his efforts to prove it right or wrong are nothing but admirable. He is helping already.

Absolutely. I don't believe we can grow them either. I believe they spread by them self and that there is no game mechanic for us to affect it.

Nothing would make me happier than being proved wrong. All credit to BluWolve for trying.

I just want to remind everyone that it was 'proven' that the UA sound did not contain Morse code. There was a separate thread for 'Sound engineers', that found nothing. Lots of skilled people, but they were analyzing the purs, not the chitter.
I think Jmains yelled at us for a week. Then Qorbeq started yelling as well. Slowly it was accepted that they were right. There was Morse code. It spelled 'Seega Port'.

Some called it quite early.
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