Mathematical theory behind Alcubierre-White Warp Bubble Oscillation Drive

1994:
The Alcubierre drive or Alcubierre metric (referring to metric tensor) is a speculative idea based on a solution of Einstein's field equations in general relativity as proposed by (Mexican) theoretical physicist Miguel Alcubierre, by which a spacecraft could achieve faster-than-light travel if a configurable energy-density field lower than that of vacuum (i.e. negative mass) could be created. Miguel Alcubierre's mathematical idea came in 1994. The big problem with Miguel's mathematical theory is that it required the exotic matter equivalent to the mass of Jupiter - which was technically not feasible.

2012, 24th September 2013
Dr. Harold "Sonny" White (from NASA) made major mathematical modifications to M. Alcubierre's mathematical theory. His modifications reduced the insane (Jupiter) amount of exotic matter to an amount less than the mass of the Voyager 1 spacecraft, which is about 1 Ton. This reduction may seem meaningless to most of us, but this is a gigantic improvement to an already esoteric mathematical model.

The paper itself is here. The term "York Time" means the expansion and contraction of space-time.
http://files.meetup.com/8892532/H White warp field paper.pdf

After "reading" this, I sent the following dumb questions to Harold White:

1.I read in numerous articles online, referencing your paper, that such a "torus" would have to be made by an "exotic matter."
What is meant by this? A completely new undiscovered element, or a nano-manufactured meta material?

2.Also, what would the theoretical energy requirements be for powering the device for the size of a football f.ex.?

3.By what means could this contraction/expansion of space time ("York Time"?) occur around the ring... electromagnetism of some kind?

He responded with:

John,

Thanks for the note. The math requires negative vacuum energy – I suggest you look up Casimir force. There are additional ways to do this, and Dr. Eric Davis covers some of them in his chapter of the AIAA book titled Frontiers of Propulsion Science (AIAA best seller on 2nd edition). It is a highly technical book, but “gold standard” library reference so to speak.

Our experimental efforts are focused on trying to develop a small instance in the lab. We will be building some test articles to explore the bubble oscillation idea to see if we can increase the intensity of the phenomenon.

The total energy required for a 10 meter diameter bubble travelling with an effective velocity of 10c (nothing locally exceeds c mind you) was shown to be reduced from a Jupiter amount of exotic matter to an amount less than the mass of the Voyager 1 spacecraft. That was the significant finding I presented at the 100YSS time-distance technical session.

To answer your last question, it requires negative vacuum energy, and there are a number of means of generating this – the challenge being to generate enough of it. But with the reduction in the required amount, there is hope.

Godspeed,

Dr. Harold "Sonny" White
Advanced Propulsion Theme Lead
Nuclear System Working Group, JSC Representative
NASA Engineering Directorate
Johnson Space Center
 
"White Warp Bubble Oscillation Drive"

I thought this thread was about medical marijuana.

Pretty great stuff none-the-less!


Edit: That's really awesome!!!

Well done searching the guy out and getting a response, really great that he would take the time to
respond to folks.
 
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I'll repeat Jughed here, nice work on the research and I think it's great you got a reply to your questions.

In Neal Asher's 'Owner' series they build an Alcubierre drive, it seemed well thought out and almost feasible. Now with "Sonny"'s reply it appears it could almost be a reality.

As the memes say 'I f***ing love science'
 
Do we really need negative mass to create an upward slope behind our space ship, too? I think not, all we'd need is positive mass in front of our ship to create a downward slope to get the ship moving.

Imagine a perfectly leveled strip of paper with a ball sitting in the middle. Put one finger below the paper strip and behind the ball. Now put another finger above the paper strip and in front of the ball. Twist your wrist slightly to create the slope. One of your fingers will now kind of simulate negative mass, while the other will simulate positive mass. The ball will start moving, and if you keep following that movement with your hand the ball will eventually reach the end of the paper strip.

Now imagine the same scenario, but with just one finger above the paper strip and in front of the ball. Push down on the paper strip. The ball will start moving just the same, it just won't go as quickly. But perhaps this can be countered simply by pushing harder on the paper strip, simulating greater mass.

So, how do we go about creating a field of positive mass in front of our spaceship? ;)
 
I'm so sorry...

It's all really well over my head there's only one thing I have ever really wanted to know (besides a a much deeper knowledge of maths and physics because I have none) since I found out about it. How on earth do you correctly pronounce 'Alcubierre'? It's been bugging me for a while now. :eek:
 
This was in my copy of New Scientist this morning.
Casimir force used to generate an area of negative energy that may be able to hold open a wormhole for a short time.
The geometry of the wormhole needs to be tailored to generate sufficient negative energy which is itself a massive step forward.
Ignore the time travelling nonsense. They always put that sort of guff in to make sure the article is syndicated. It's the negative energy that's the important thing here.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25596-skinny-wormholes-could-send-messages-through-time.html
 
I suspect time travel will be theoretically easier than warp drive space travel. If you think about time as just another dimension of space, manipulating only one dimension should be easier than manipulating all 3-4 (or more) of them.

Of course, there are small practical difficulties. If you send human through time, the atoms in his body will arrive into space that will be occupied by other atoms, overcoming repulsive forces and triggering fusion process. Basically, you'll get human sized fusion bomb. But no worries, just a minor technical inconvenience!
 
Thing is, there isn't afaik any such thing as "negative energy". Its a theoretical property which requires "exotic mass" afaik.

What's it supposed to mean anyway?
 
Exotic Matter or Exotic Energy is scientists saying they need some undiscovered miracle stuff that just happens to have the required properties. In other words, they don't know what they need until they've discovered it.
 
Exotic Matter or Exotic Energy is scientists saying they need some undiscovered miracle stuff that just happens to have the required properties. In other words, they don't know what they need until they've discovered it.

Basic version is that originally you needed a huge amount of "stuff that does not exist" to create the drive, now it seems that actually only a small amount of "stuff that does not exist" is needed. Minor details such as annihilating the destination system on arrival will obviously need a bit of tweaking.
 
Bob Lazaar talked about this in 1985 its great to see mainstream science ripping him off now :)

Explains exactly how it work, 'All' you would need is some anti-matter, not an energy source the size of jupiter (what??!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJolFbj8nc4&index=90&list=PLCF49ADB83526952B





Do we really need negative mass to create an upward slope behind our space ship, too? I think not, all we'd need is positive mass in front of our ship to create a downward slope to get the ship moving.

Imagine a perfectly leveled strip of paper with a ball sitting in the middle. Put one finger below the paper strip and behind the ball. Now put another finger above the paper strip and in front of the ball. Twist your wrist slightly to create the slope. One of your fingers will now kind of simulate negative mass, while the other will simulate positive mass. The ball will start moving, and if you keep following that movement with your hand the ball will eventually reach the end of the paper strip.

Now imagine the same scenario, but with just one finger above the paper strip and in front of the ball. Push down on the paper strip. The ball will start moving just the same, it just won't go as quickly. But perhaps this can be countered simply by pushing harder on the paper strip, simulating greater mass.

So, how do we go about creating a field of positive mass in front of our spaceship? ;)
 
Bob Lazaar talked about this in 1985 its great to see mainstream science ripping him off now :)

Explains exactly how it work, 'All' you would need is some anti-matter, not an energy source the size of jupiter (what??!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJolFbj8nc4&index=90&list=PLCF49ADB83526952B

Well, isn't Bob Lazaar the guy who claims to have worked on an alien space craft, to get it working.. and then lost his job, because he showed it off to his friends.. and subsequently had his life turned upside down... working as a janitor and stuf.. But then in the video he drives a Ferrari?

Yeah, not buying his story. ;)

There is no "mainstream science" - there is only "science." If Bob Lazaar wants to be taken seriously, he could start by publishing scientific journals on the fundamentals of this alleged alien propulsion device and reactor he claims to have worked on in Groom Lake S4, near Area 51. And if it got taken down, he could publish it to Wikileaks.. there are infinite possibilities.

And no, nothing of what Bob Lazaar talks about is remotely similar to the Alcubierre-White warp metric. Anti-matter isn't even a part of the equation. It's something else called "negative vacuum energy" - which can be seen in microscopic instances of the Casimir Effect.

In other news, here's an awesome article from yesterday:
http://io9.com/heres-nasas-new-design-for-a-warp-drive-ship-1588948192

And a video presentation by Dr. Harold White on the subject of warp field dynamics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M8yht_ofHc
 
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