UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn

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Are the British still at war with France? In their heads, they are. There is a latent distrust on both sides. It's called genetic memory. It may not be the same war, but it will always be the same reasons, even if those reasons are not conscious... And as for being no good??? No-one wants to be guilty of genocide.

The English maybe, not the British. Here in Scotland we had a thing called the Auld Alliance brought about by dislike of our common enemy. As shown last week we're still friends with our old allies.
 
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The English maybe, not the British. Here in Scotland we had a thing called the Auld Alliance brought about by dislike of our common enemy. As shown last week we're still friends with our old allies.

Ah yes. You have corrected me well. And you want a new border. Wonder if we can find an architect by the name of Hadrian...
 
Im trying to find a list of the original UA convoys routes or systems anybody have that data handy?

I wonder if we're thinking along similar lines: edit: Just saw your post above this one, it seems we are.

Apologies, my UA history foo is rusty (too much time in Rift thread) but when the original UA was found there was a similar retrieval model of 'attack big convoy, get T9 to drop UA'. Eventually free floaters were found (or simply added).

So assuming this follows a similar model, any guesses as to where a free floater shell (or something similar) might be ? or do we suspect there will be a period of convoy only drops until folks deduce some of its nature and then free floaters will be added later.

Posted that a few days ago but it's now 30 pages back. Basically trying to deduce other areas of interest.
 
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I think that part is a bit confusing. having an artefact that knows the names of all star systems and planets (it is part of the Morse code) is not entirely human considering we haven't barely visited all of them. how does the UA know their names?

it looks more like a "guidance" into something than an actual fact about being alien or not.. it speaks Morse - for unknown reasons - so it is related to humans "somehow".. (my opinion)
They look borderline organic to me.
So what if they have an brain of sorts that acts as a computer.

the UA or UP has say a date base of all starts it knows about and were they are located in the galaxy.
And when it interfaces with our ships it understands and translates our star names and thus uses them.

Maybe its the case that the aliens or what ever put them there did put them for us to find and did there best to make them usable by us. (a bit like what you said)
 
Funny you should mention that. I've been meaning to start an "Out of the Darkness" thread similar to the "Reclamation" Rift thread. Not sure how many people have read it but I've been chasing it off on and on for a while (along with the other books). There are some very interesting parallels between the book, engineers, Thargoids and the recent UA/UP discovery. I'll leave one little tidbit here, fair warning it's very spoilier-ish, so don't click if you don't want some of the story ruined before you read it.
At the end of the book after they destroy the Thargoid enhanced base (which to me had barnacle/UA like characteristics) in Peregrina, they give chase to a single ship that survived the wreckage. That ship was, according to the book, headed directly away from human civilization. If you draw a line from the center of the bubble through Peregrina you end up in the Pleides. Peregrina in latin can be translated as 'alien'. It's quite plausible they're engineered. There are other issues in the book that map to other things. I've yet to find anything truly actionable though not from a lack of effort.

I'll likely start one this weekend or before. I think it's high time, I just keep getting distracted with playing the game.

Pretty sure much of this is going on already.
 
Can someone point me in the direction of the UP 10 min planetary audio while I get my son to bed? I can look into it then...
 
I agree. Morse code as we know it used in an alien artefact seems unlikely.

It's not realy Morse code ascwe know it though.
It uses high/low pitch, in stead of short/long pulses.
The letters the same every time, but they are rather messy.

It's like someone learned Morse code from paper, but never heard it.
 
I think I'm getting insane. I was flying on low altitude @ Merope 5C looking for something suspicious, until I found a bright light kilometers away. I was like: OMGFGJKDSHKSAFJKAJDSFA and I boosted up wards to get a better view, until I was about 2KM from the surface it looked like the light was coming from another planet nearby, I kept boosting to get an even better view and I got really disappointed... The light was a star shining through a ring from another planet. I think I should take break for a while.

Don't worry all of this will be anticlimactic just like before. Its fun for a while but this time we literally have nothing to look for.
 
I agree. Morse code as we know it used in an alien artefact seems unlikely.

I think that part is a bit confusing. having an artefact that knows the names of all star systems and planets (it is part of the Morse code) is not entirely human considering we haven't barely visited all of them. how does the UA know their names?

it looks more like a "guidance" into something than an actual fact about being alien or not.. it speaks Morse - for unknown reasons - so it is related to humans "somehow".. (my opinion)

What other objects in Elite use morse? The UAs could have learned morse from the nav beacons which broadcast their location, the system name, using morse. If all other human radio communication is compressed or encrypted it makes sense.

So they don't know English but they do know system names. Procedurally generated system names follow a pattern so they could just have learned those from the nav beacon. This pattern involves using the letters as coordinates so the ship drawing is also possible without further communication.

The big question is not why they know morse or systems names but why are they using it? It only really makes sense if they are trying to communicate with us. But if that's their intention, they are going about it in a strange way.
 
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The big question is not why they know morse or systems names but why are they using it? It only really makes sense if they are trying to communicate with us. But if that's their intention, they are going about it in a strange way.

There is one other plausible explanation which is anti-immersive. When creating the UAs FDEV had to come up with a way for them to communicate to the players that could be plausibly cracked and said 'What about Morse, that'd be cool", without really pondering the leaps of intuition folks might make about the UA origins based on their Morse code use. If they'd created even the simplest truly alien encoding scheme with no immediately recognizable basis there would have been zero chance of anyone figuring it out.
 
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I've seen a few crashed nav beacons in the bubble recenly and their sound is not the 'BORKEN' morse it was before. It now sounds more like an SSTV signal to me.

That's what I said after 2.1 release, after hearing that sound: but some CMDR said he did pass the sound to an SSTV decoder, with no result. I'd like to do it myself, when I have time...

Im trying to find a list of the original UA convoys routes or systems anybody have that data handy?

Check the wiki, even if it is not updated, you'll find all of the old locations still there.
 
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Didn't some one say the chatter coming from the convoy with UP onbord said "cant wait to see what this thing dose when we get it near the planet?" or am i going mad. or has this been tried?

just about to restart search on 5c
 
Not sure if this would be helpful or not, but regarding getting hold of the UP from the convoys...

Way back when we were finding UAs in convoys a fellow Commander and myself successfully incorporated the following tactic to liberate one from the T9 carrying it.
With a pair of Clippers and shields to max we basically pushed the T9 away from the Anacondas and other ships escorting it until it was completely out of range. The T9 simply tried to continue on its course while the escort ships didn't seem to mind at all. Maybe because our weapons were stored.

Anyway - once out of range it was pretty straight forward getting the UA from the T9.

Just wondering if this tactic could be used to get at the UP. Only problem I can see is that the Python carrying it is somewhat smaller than a T9 but I think it could work.

Fly safe Commanders :)
 
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