UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn

[rizal72]

Two points:

1- @Rizal and Popov: I know this board moves fast so you probably missed it, but I just posted about a possible UP shell around Merope 5c here. Short version is that signal sources can now be adjusted based on where you are in a system so checking close to the moon is worth a shot. Haven't had a chance to see for myself yet.

2- Jaque's message: "They sing, the artefacts. I thought that was some crack pot ranting, but when you're out there they sing and then they find you." Is this a hint to get one of Palin's cargo racks, grab a UA, and go for it? I know people have already taken them everywhere but what about just holding on to one permanently? That's what I'm in the process of doing. Better yet get the rack with two capacity and keep both a UA and a UP.

I've seen it, and I agree VERY MUCH with point 2: I've pointed it out a couple weeks ago already: and now that Jaques is talking about "taking the UA OUT THERE then it sings" it CLEARLY means we need to take it FAR AWAY, VERY FAR AWAY.

I have 2 cargo racks and been flying with 4 UAs for more than a week now, haven't seen anything , I haven't been found yet.

I haven't had any missjump either, all good.

I suspect we need to take it OUT THERE, not just close to the Bubble.

THERE SHOULD BE SOME AREA, around the Galaxy, where the UA, that you are carrying in your hold, will ACTIVATE.
I suspect this area is crossed just going from the bubble to BEAGLE POINT: trying to reproduce Jaques' trip to Beagle.

 

[Makaan]

I have a thought:

Jaques was jumping very far. He had UAs in his hold, and was snagged part-way.
For us to replicate the conditions, we might have to load the crcr with a couple of UAs, and do a combined engineer-enhanced and sythesis-enhanced superjump.
This is to give "them" time to find us in witchspace, as vaguely theoretically, we would spend more time travelling through it when jumping long distances.

I don't have the special holds, otherwise I'd do it myself. Also, my new DBX isn't enhanced..

This sounds plausible.

Max standard jump range combined with max fsd upgrade from engineers plus max fsd boost. Then jump with UA/s on board.

Maybe jump with both a UA and a UP in the hold....

How many light years would we be talking here? 100+?

 

[Râgnôs]

Also, I'm totally getting out there with a UA in the hold ASAP, be damned toxin-resistant racks

I thought you'd want a UA and a UP for that trip.

Now I'm torn between blitzing out there in a combat ship or to transport Meta's out there...

Still it'd be amusing if they had a shoot on sight order, 22kLy trip and there's 750 VERY angry people on board.

 

[ilo]

This sounds plausible.

Max standard jump range combined with max fsd upgrade from engineers plus max fsd boost.

How many light years would we be talking here? 100+?

I believe 120 is the max, 110ly still doable but with a very stripped ship.

 

[Jmanis]

I thought you'd want a UA and a UP for that trip.

Now I'm torn between blitzing out there in a combat ship or to transport Meta's out there...

Still it'd be amusing if they had a shoot on sight order, 22kLy trip and there's 750 VERY angry people on board.

I should have an 18m credit legacy fine still. I just can't reactivate it. Also, sure you *might* want a UP as well as a UA, but I just want to go there with a UA. UP is too much effort.

 

[ilo]

I've seen it, and I agree VERY MUCH with point 2: I've pointed it out a couple weeks ago already: and now that Jaques is talking about "taking the UA OUT THERE then it sings" it CLEARLY means we need to take it FAR AWAY, VERY FAR AWAY.





I suspect we need to take it OUT THERE, not just close to the Bubble.

THERE SHOULD BE SOME AREA, around the Galaxy, where the UA, that you are carrying in your hold, will ACTIVATE.
I suspect this area is crossed just going from the bubble to BEAGLE POINT: trying to reproduce Jaques' trip to Beagle.

I've been as far as Pleiades, right now I'm landed in Merope 5 c, how far do I have to go..

jaques finished there, in that location, while travelling in space time, he could have been pulled out to witch space in the first jump from the bubble

 

[Makaan]

About taking UA's very far away.

What about the Formidine Rift?

Here's a snippet from one of the books, I forget which one:

"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."

Hmm...

I'm actually on my way to the Formidine Rift currently, just over 2000ly from the bubble. Does anyone want to bring me a UA? I'll wait at my current location.

The only issue...I don't have a reinforced rack or whatever is needed to negate the effects of the UA's. Soooooo....perhaps I'll just come back and then set off again, I don't mind testing this one out since visiting the Rift is my next goal aha

 

[damajoo]

I've seen it, and I agree VERY MUCH with point 2: I've pointed it out a couple weeks ago already: and now that Jaques is talking about "taking the UA OUT THERE then it sings" it CLEARLY means we need to take it FAR AWAY, VERY FAR AWAY.





I suspect we need to take it OUT THERE, not just close to the Bubble.

THERE SHOULD BE SOME AREA, around the Galaxy, where the UA, that you are carrying in your hold, will ACTIVATE.
I suspect this area is crossed just going from the bubble to BEAGLE POINT: trying to reproduce Jaques' trip to Beagle.

Okay. agree. But - and here i need more insight : Wasn't it planed by Jaques to do this in one huge Jump, therefor the CG to "refuel" the Station ? That was how i understood it.
If that is correct, than all we could do, ist go to Gliese (his starting point), and "aim" roughly towards Beagle Point. However, as "we" will probably do max around 110LY (Anaconda 55LY plus JP3) give and take, this is kind of impossible to reproduce, just from the general direction where to jump to ...

Or please correct me, if i'm making the wrong assumptions

o7

 

[Michael Brookes]

It's entirely possible he really did find it . But it was the timing and the sheer scale of finding that needle in that particular haystack that makes me suspicious, not really the account age, thought that factors in.

He did find it, although not through the method we expected

Michael

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Yes there is a timer. What I'm saying is the state they change to when that timer clicks over is not always the same, even with barnacles in the exact same state when it does. This suggests to me that player interaction determines the state the barnacle will change to when the timer clicks over. I gave an example the other day pointing out how it would work, pretty much the same as the political BGS.

Ok, thanks for the clarification!

 

[MadDogMurdock]

He did find it, although not through the method we expected

Michael

When were we supposed to start receiving those log entries?

 

[stripealipe]

Okay. agree. But - and here i need more insight : Wasn't it planed by Jaques to do this in one huge Jump, therefor the CG to "refuel" the Station ? That was how i understood it.
If that is correct, than all we could do, ist go to Gliese (his starting point), and "aim" roughly towards Beagle Point. However, as "we" will probably do max around 110LY (Anaconda 55LY plus JP3) give and take, this is kind of impossible to reproduce, just from the general direction where to jump to ...

Or please correct me, if i'm making the wrong assumptions

o7

I wouldn't necessarily go on the assumption that a huge jump range is what's needed. I'm def looking forward to hearing about those that load up their holds with UA's and go jumping around somewhere along Jacque's known route though.. this sounds pretty exciting

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

An Idea with the witch space stuff.

A Cmdr. needs to pick up a few UA in the save storage and just make some Jumps, maybe a missjump will happend like Jaques one.

But you might then be assimilated by the cybermen or end up in a sanatorium on Mars

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or c) they didn't change the code for ambient station traffic

Possible, but there is no ambient traffic in the Rift, so why should there be in Jacques' new location? I think the indication is that this new location, and the ship traffic, is meaningful for the storyline.

 

[BluWolve]

I went over to Merope 2A and was checking the Farragutt battle cruiser site, as I have done many times over the past couple of weeks. The area seems to be getting more and more heavily guarded. When I first visited the site over 2 weeks ago, the barnacles were not guarded, you could freely drive up to them in the SRV and harvest meta alloys.

As you can see from my original video on YouTube, they were not guarded at all :

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https://youtu.be/A2uIwFVwYlk

Things that have changed :

1. The battle cruiser is now heavily guarded with federal navy ships -- 14 vultures, a patrolling Annaconda with 4 vultures in toe a dropship also patrolling on a set course around the battle cruiser with 6 vultures in toe, 8 eagle fighters patrolling the immediate area around the battle cruiser.

2. The barnacles are now protected with sentries, missile launchers and lasers.

3. The barnacles have a trespass zone setup around them, if you go near them in your ship you will be shot at, if you go near them in the SRV you will be shot at.

So my question is, why are they suddenly locking down this site?


Pictures :

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I'm sorry but are you fair dinkum? That much defense and you still wonder why they are there? The name of the battlecruiser didn't give it away either? I have said it countless times, and every time they add some new defense there I say it again.

The message is so painfully obvious it hurts me that people cant see it. Stop. Shooting. Every. Spike. Please. Before it is too late...

Edit: As far as I can tell so far harvesting the ripe spikes keeps the barnacle in a healthy state, so if you must shoot spikes just do those. Leave the small spikes alone. Please.

Double Edit: These are sentient beings that communicate with a super complex form of echolocation. Who knows what else. They are being tortured. They will retaliate. I hear the song...

 

[MadDogMurdock]

But you might then be assimilated by the cybermen or end up in a sanatorium on Mars

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Possible, but there is no ambient traffic in the Rift, so why should there be in Jacques' new location? I think the indication is that this new location, and the ship traffic, is meaningful for the storyline.

Because traffic is associated with population and the proximity of stations.
Adding Jacques suddenly gave that system a population and the ambient traffic that goes with it.

 

[Râgnôs]

I should have an 18m credit legacy fine still.

That's just game mechanics from what I'm assuming is from when you got caught transporting UA's in the first place... Correct?

I want to see the NPC's(devs) come back at you in a creative way for your "without intending harm" stuffing hundreds of artefacts that "turn your ships internals into soup" and causing possibly the largest mis-jump ever to grace the elite universe "in the name of science".

I personally have nothing against you, but in my opinion if nothing happens to you it would be a grave mis-step in story telling how you dashed Jacques dreams of jumping across the galaxy and stranded 750 people in the middle of no-where.
Also it kind of undermines giving the NPC's faces if you can be responsible for melting half of their station (and homes) and they aren't the slightest put out with you.

 

[RonkerZ]

How many UP's have been found? Are they starting to become common?

 

[Han_Zen]

An UA has been taken to Sag A. That trip passes 'close' to where Jaques is now. Nothing happened on that trip.

If anything is to 'activate' an UA, I doubt it's location.

The focus in the articles, before Jaques left, was the length of the jump.
I think it's more likely that an extremely long jump will 'activate' it. A 100ly + jump, could do the trick.

I'm sceptical to this as well, but less than just taking an UA to Jaques.

 

[crushdepth]

I've seen it, and I agree VERY MUCH with point 2: I've pointed it out a couple weeks ago already: and now that Jaques is talking about "taking the UA OUT THERE then it sings" it CLEARLY means we need to take it FAR AWAY, VERY FAR AWAY.

I suspect we need to take it OUT THERE, not just close to the Bubble.

THERE SHOULD BE SOME AREA, around the Galaxy, where the UA, that you are carrying in your hold, will ACTIVATE.
I suspect this area is crossed just going from the bubble to BEAGLE POINT: trying to reproduce Jaques' trip to Beagle.

Maybe you need a few of them to make "whatever" happen. People have taken UAs to Sag A* with no result. Jacques had quite a few on board by all accounts, thanks to our playerbase of environmental vandals.

 

[Han_Zen]

That's just game mechanics from what I'm assuming is from when you got caught transporting UA's in the first place... Correct?

I want to see the NPC's(devs) come back at you in a creative way for your "without intending harm" stuffing hundreds of artefacts that "turn your ships internals into soup" and causing possibly the largest mis-jump ever to grace the elite universe "in the name of science".

I personally have nothing against you, but in my opinion if nothing happens to you it would be a grave mis-step in story telling how you dashed Jacques dreams of jumping across the galaxy and stranded 750 people in the middle of no-where.
Also it kind of undermines giving the NPC's faces if you can be responsible for melting half of their station (and homes) and they aren't the slightest put out with you.

Jmains should be safe. Black market operators never reveal their sources.