new ai still sucks

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littlemisery

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ive been trying and trying to get on with the new ai and i can kill em but it takes ages now..

plus i thought they removed enginered weapons from lower ranked ships? (they have not)

getting tired of it now been playing since gpp and not gonna debate this with the git gud spanners, ill just play one of my many other games till frontier sort this crap out,really frontier pls sort it #ANNOYING
 

RagingxPenguin

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Only high rank AI has extreme pew pew goodies.
If still struggling maybe reset rank (NOT profile. Just combat rank. Contact support. Easy peasey). Will take edge off learning curve.

Audio messages are normal. Doesn't indicate engineer goodies for example, plasma accelerator will trigger the heat weapon warning.
 
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littlemisery

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and why would i reset my rank? getting attacked by expert and master ranked ships with modded weapons is annoying i can beat them but im getting to the stage that i just cant be bothered.

like i said ill just go play a fun game rather than one that es me off
 
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Judge M

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FD are supposed to have removed Engineer mods from a lot of AI.
Anything below Master is supposed to be free from Engineer mods.
Elite and Deadly are more likley to be equipped with uber weapons.
If you're encountering AI of a lower rank (upto Master) that are using modded weapons, grab a game clip and report
it to FD.
I agree that combat is a horrible mess at the moment.
It's not just modded weapons for me, it's overall ability that is a bit bonkers.
Had rings flown around me by a competent FAS the other day.
I was in a Python, so i expect a FAS to be a little more agile than me, but i also expect a pilot (AI) with a rank of competent to be
clumsy and less than perfect.
At the moment the AI flies like Top Gun, regardless of rank.
It's like they nail every aspect of flight and combat. Its literally unbelievable.

Anyhoo, im hijacking aren't i? Sorry.
:)

Like i say, record any suspicious shenanegins and report it on the bug reporting forum.
 

littlemisery

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Judge M said:
FD are supposed to have removed Engineer mods from a lot of AI.
Anything below Master is supposed to be free from Engineer mods.
Elite and Deadly are more likley to be equipped with uber weapons.
If you're encountering AI of a lower rank (upto Master) that are using modded weapons, grab a game clip and report
it to FD.
I agree that combat is a horrible mess at the moment.
It's not just modded weapons for me, it's overall ability that is a bit bonkers.
Had rings flown around me by a competent FAS the other day.
I was in a Python, so i expect a FAS to be a little more agile than me, but i also expect a pilot (AI) with a rank of competent to be
clumsy and less than perfect.
At the moment the AI flies like Top Gun, regardless of rank.
It's like they nail every aspect of flight and combat. Its literally unbelievable.

Anyhoo, im hijacking aren't i? Sorry.
:)

Like i say, record any suspicious shenanegins and report it on the bug reporting forum.
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u aint hijacking atall m8 i agree with everything u said, i can kill em but its not enjoyable anymore
 

RagingxPenguin

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littlemisery said:
i hate even making posts on forums so i try and say what i want in as few words as possible, ai needs sorting, simples :)
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They did sort the AI.


Removed the super crazy AI that were rewriting their weapons.

High ranks don't attack those far below them.



They even toned down some of the ranks.

What more do you want? The pre 1.6 AI aren't coming back.
 

Apollyon

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littlemisery said:
ive been trying and trying to get on with the new ai and i can kill em but it takes ages now..

plus i thought they removed enginered weapons from lower ranked ships? (they have not)

getting tired of it now been playing since gpp and not gonna debate this with the git gud spanners, ill just play one of my many other games till frontier sort this crap out,really frontier pls sort it #ANNOYING
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littlemisery, what a fitting name! You are a pitiable soul that needs a little direction. Let me point you to the Black. There you will find me, and cry you will when you find yourself in a million pieces. Let's end your misery, let me, Apollyon, show you the solitude of eternal darkness.
 

DustyArne

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Littlemisery is a forum regular from even before i came around.

He is playing this game form the first minute. And is 100% combat orientated. He absolutely knows what his is doing. And its a real shame current game mechanics chased him away.

Current AI is not for everyone.. a shame..
 

Ste1623

Ste1623
I find the new AI challenging but fair, if you want you can just target the easy pray. i too have been playing ages, and on first encounter i hated the AI so i disappeared out the bubble for a month,

They have took some getting used to but i am really enjoying combat again.

stick with it mate
 

HBK

HBK
The new-ish AI is totally a mixed bag for me. I think one of my main gripes is that you hardly see a difference between lower and higher ranks. I mean, the main difference in their combat ability is simply their ship setup. So an Elite AI is hard to kill because it uses max-DPS weapons, has maxed defense (chaff+SCB+HRP), and an overall A-rated ship. You don't really see a big difference in their actual piloting ability, they just have better ships (for combat).

Why I think it's a mixed bag overall is that while I like some added challenge from time to time, there are a number of other issues with the game that kind of culminates with this new AI. It's like the game actively tries to annoy the player with stuff like interdiction mechanics for example, and while with the previous AI it was kind of bearable as their were a limited threat as long as your ship was correctly setup, now it's more of a chore especially as the "Elite" interdictors take such a long time to kill (and become a threat not because of how good they fly but because they have such a high number of HP they will down your shields and hurt your hull through plain attrition).

Or long story short, I agree with OP. Game should be challenging, but shouldn't be an annoyance. Right now it's kinda both.
 

Judge M

Judge M
Spot on, HBK.
Been making that point myself.
There appears to be virtually no difference, ability wise, between Elite and say, competent.
A competent AI pilot is as skilled as an Elite AI.
Whatever rank you come across, their piloting abilities are exactly the same. Its ridiculous really.

I think FD have made a big mistake by forcing XXX rated combat on people. I am constantly getting griefed by Elite Annaconda's because im Elite myself.
And the vast majority of Elite (and Deadly) AI i come across have maxed out uber weapons that mess me up badly, very quickly.
I haven't done anywhere near the amount of grinding required to get my hands on weapons like that.

If people want that kind of combat, FD should create Ultra Intensity RES sites and conflict zones. Let the big headed minority who can't stop trumpeting their
own magnificence go and have their **** measuring contests in specific areas.
You (and me) shouldn't have that kind of encounter thrust upon us anywhere and everywhere.
Im all for challenging, but the current state of the AI is not that. It's a source of massive frustration and frankly bordering on unfair.
Everything about the AI is too perfect. Their flying abilities, their combat prowess, their evasive manouvers.

Would love to know if FD factor in any margin of error into the AI behaviour. Doesn't feel like they have, but they should have. Especially
in the lower rank AI who feel way too skilled for their rank.
 

bikertox

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littlemisery said:
ive been trying and trying to get on with the new ai and i can kill em but it takes ages now..

plus i thought they removed enginered weapons from lower ranked ships? (they have not)

getting tired of it now been playing since gpp and not gonna debate this with the git gud spanners, ill just play one of my many other games till frontier sort this crap out,really frontier pls sort it #ANNOYING
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I know you already know this but if you are not enjoying the combat... maybe pips to shields and engines, boost...chaff...boost... high wake out. You don't always have to fight. There are alternatives other than quitting. Or maybe a break is in order
 

littlemisery

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bikertox said:
I know you already know this but if you are not enjoying the combat... maybe pips to shields and engines, boost...chaff...boost... high wake out. You don't always have to fight. There are alternatives other than quitting. Or maybe a break is in order
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yep i know. this but when u make a living bounty hunting u kinda do have to fight lol
hbk and judge worded it better than i though agree with both of ya
 

mung0

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littlemisery said:
ill just play one of my many other games till frontier sort this crap out
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