Elite: Deadly

[Squady]

As we know FD can't keep improving Elite: Dangerous, at some point they must release a stand alone sequel- just like serial killers can't become one by just killing one person.

So what do we thing should be the name of the next instalment in the franchise we lovingly call Elite or 1337 if you are a troll.

I am of course better than you, and, my opinion is more valued because I played Elite on the BBC and ZX spectrum 48k. j/k


But feel free to express any ideas.

 

[VR Morgan Grimes]

There will not be a stand alone sequel, expansion packs aka season passes is the plan, releasing a stand alone sequel would alienate a massive portion of the player base.

 

[sbdags]

I'll just go straight for Elite²

 

[cmdr_Havalok]

Technically this is already Elite 4 isn't it?

 

[EdzUp]

The next sequel will be when in a few decades FDEV start on the galactic tourism and book slots on space liners so people can experience the wonders of space themselves

 

[Squady]

There will not be a stand alone sequel, expansion packs aka season passes is the plan, releasing a stand alone sequel would alienate a massive portion of the player base.

There will not/never be a stand alone sequel. I will bet 1 million pounds you are wrong. Any takers?

I use as my evidence every game ever release that became popular...

 

[Luniticisi]

David Braben has said himself that there would be no Elite 5 - now that doesn't mean that it wont happen but I just thought I would put that out there.

 

[Squady]

Interesting, sooner or later we must assume he will die being mortal. People say all sorts of crap to all sorts of people and David Braben is no exception, he can no more predict the future than I can. I just can't see a future in any game without a stand alone game, and I will tell you for why: companies need to make money, they wont make as much money off of one game with endless upgrades as they would with a next sequel called Fallout 500 or whatever. It's a nice sentiment, for sure, the only game company in the world never to go for a sequel when the accountants pressured them, but it is not realistic. The real world does not work like that, and unless FD wants to declare itself as a not for profit organisation sooner or later it will have to go with reality.

As I said £1 million pound bet any takers?

There will not be a stand alone sequel, expansion packs aka season passes is the plan, releasing a stand alone sequel would alienate a massive portion of the player base.

Ah the not for profit communist ideal, whereby you release season passes to games. If they think that will work to bring in more money than releasing sequels they are living in the wrong capitalist environment.

Seriously you will make more money by releasing sequels than relying on season passes, and I willing to bet 1 million pounds on this. If they seriously think they can coin it as much as Ubisoft et al, they are delusional.

No takers on the million pound bet yet...

 

[Cmdr Ultra]

There is no need for a sequel.

Take DCS World the flight sim. They are in the process of releasing of what could be considered a sequel - DCS World 2.0.
It's a whole new engine moving from DX9 to DX11 finally, but all the old modules / planes people have bought will work on it.

Elite will get an engine rewrite as tech changes, it has to with a 10 year plan. But it will be in the form of technical upgrades included in the yearly expansions.

Eve is almost 13 years old and has had quite a few major rewrites of graphics code etc.. But it's still technically the same game.

 

[Privata]

There will not/never be a stand alone sequel. I will bet 1 million pounds you are wrong. Any takers?

I use as my evidence every game ever release that became popular...

10 year plan for elite dangerous.
the game is not even finished , the goal is to work on it until everything is done. that will take at least another 5 years , and then they might continue to add expansions and so on.

Games like EVE never got a sequel and the ''season'' in elite offer more content than most sequels anyway

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Interesting, sooner or later we must assume he will die being mortal. People say all sorts of crap to all sorts of people and David Braben is no exception, he can no more predict the future than I can. I just can't see a future in any game without a stand alone game, and I will tell you for why: companies need to make money, they wont make as much money off of one game with endless upgrades as they would with a next sequel called Fallout 500 or whatever. It's a nice sentiment, for sure, the only game company in the world never to go for a sequel when the accountants pressured them, but it is not realistic. The real world does not work like that, and unless FD wants to declare itself as a not for profit organisation sooner or later it will have to go with reality.

As I said £1 million pound bet any takers?

Ah the not for profit idea, whereby you release season passes to games. If they think that will work to bring in more money than releasing sequels they are living in the wrong capitalist environment.

We backed the game on a 10 year plan promise.
Go watch the dev vids , the kickstarter archives , and all the newsletters.

I dont want FD to become rubbish like ubisoft , there will not be a sequel , not before elite dangerous has had all its seasons done. and even then they plan on going onwards with it.
If eve can do it so can elite

 

[Squady]

Ok well you are not going to make any money out of rehashing the same game. But if they want to make little money by rehasihing so be it. It's their funeral.

Seriously their accountants must be livid.

Here's a heads up the most profitable organisations within the game companies what did they do, release one game and then endlessly update it?

Communism is all very well but if you want to make a game last you need hard headed pragmatism, the fact they clearly don't have it is no worry of mine.

 

[VR Morgan Grimes]

I'll take your bet, good luck proving it...

 

[Squady]

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Interesting, sooner or later we must assume he will die being mortal. People say all sorts of crap to all sorts of people and David Braben is no exception, he can no more predict the future than I can. I just can't see a future in any game without a stand alone game, and I will tell you for why: companies need to make money, they wont make as much money off of one game with endless upgrades as they would with a next sequel called Fallout 500 or whatever. It's a nice sentiment, for sure, the only game company in the world never to go for a sequel when the accountants pressured them, but it is not realistic. The real world does not work like that, and unless FD wants to declare itself as a not for profit organisation sooner or later it will have to go with reality.

As I said £1 million pound bet any takers?


We backed the game on a 10 year plan promise.
Go watch the dev vids , the kickstarter archives , and all the newsletters.

I dont want FD to become rubbish like ubisoft , there will not be a sequel , not before elite dangerous has had all its seasons done. and even then they plan on going onwards with it.
If eve can do it so can elite

Who gives a damn. Capitalism wont.

your game will die because you fear FD will become sucessful and make lots of money, which will lead it to become like every other game company on Earth. At some point you have to face reality.

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I'll take your bet, good luck proving it...

wont be hard watch this space.

And ok I know very well FD doesn't rely on one game and has made several but if they keep making Elite:dangerous just another update it will stagnate and lose them money and they probably know it.

At some point someone is going to go, well Elite is a sink hole for money and without the profit the could have made by releasing sequels like every other game company. When they do Expect Elite 5

Ooooh it's a 10 year project is it, I doubt the stock market gives a damn.

 

[Luniticisi]

FD are already very successful, they have been in the Computer game business since January 1994 and pretty much rake in the cash for a company their size.

 

[Squady]

Yeah who cares. They could be more successful but chose not to be because of some hippy bollusk about communism. What the hell ever. It's your funeral.

I reckon if they released Elite five their stock on the market would immediately go up by at least at least 10 points, the company stock which no doubt they hold the majority share would then allow them to make more money.

I laud the nobiility of communism I just doubt it is the way forward for sensible businesses.

I'm not getting at anyone I personally think the way Elite formed and of course hence FD is noble, I just think it is naive to think you can work on a communist ideal and expect the same sort of returns on profit as other companies.

http://www.ranker.com/list/top-english-game-developers/el-gamer-grande

Where are thy in the top 50?

In fact I am playing Devil's advocate in some way because I pretty much am a socialist. But I thought it would be interesting to discuss this topic.

I think what FD did was perhaps one of the greatest formations of a company I have seen. That said they still could do better on the stock market.


Devil's advocate, it's kinda like trolling, but with a point and no I haz cheeseburgers shiz.

 

[Cmdr Ultra]

What? lol. I need to smoke what your smoking please.

Guess this has solved the mystery of why there are so many Communist star systems.

 

[Luniticisi]

Yeah who cares. They could be more successful but chose not to be because of some hippy bollusk about communism. What the hell ever. It's your funeral.

I reckon if they released Elite five their stock on the market would immediately go up by at least at least 10 points, the company stock which no doubt they hold the majority share would then allow them to make more money.

I laud the nobiility of communism I just doubt it is the wya forward for sensible businesses.

I disagree, If FD released Elite 5 instead of fulfilling the promises of Elite 4 (ED) then their reputation would be in the dirt .. that's worse for business in my view .

 

[Stupid_hippy]

Well, I was going to answer the question posed in the initial post, but looking at all the nonsense spouted afterwards, especially after saying 'feel free to express your ideas', I don't think I will bother.

 

[Luniticisi]

-Snip-
http://www.ranker.com/list/top-english-game-developers/el-gamer-grande

Where are thy in the top 50?

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FD don't make that many games, they are a small company in the scheme of things their games consist of
Kinectimals
LostWinds Series
Thrillville Series
RollerCoaster Tycoon 3
Elite series
Wallace & Gromit series
Darxide
Dog's Life
Zoo Tycoon
Planet Coaster

They make plenty of cash to keep a company of their size afloat .. add that to the fact that David Braben is also co-founder of the Raspberry Pi .. it all adds up.

 

[Cmdr Ultra]

http://www.ranker.com/list/top-engli...l-gamer-grande

Anybody actually interact with this "list" I moved Eidos down from position 1 to 2 with one vote. Is this a joke?