I don't want Eve 2.0 either but I damn sure don't want My Little Ponies in Space.
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I don't want Eve 2.0 either but I damn sure don't want My Little Ponies in Space.
I'm not in alpha so I hadn't realised this. Its precisely these sorts of mechanics introduced to protect players that griefers tend know better than other players and exploit to get legal kills. Its hardly surprising its happening in ED though, since jettisoning cans to use as bait is a fairly common tactic in high security space in Eve.
Your transponder is off, your transponder is off, there's no way to tell you're a PC, even scanning. But that's a different subject and not really what this thread is about.
We are already being harrassed quite a bit by NPC bandits in Alpha 4.03. The Feds and NPC bounty hunters seem quite keen to interdict us out of supercruise and inspect us for contraband / bounties. Pirates drop us out of warp for a your-money-or-your-life deal.
The setting is bally dangerous. The danger is not dependent on there being an open license to hunt other players with no consequences.
If not having such a license turns the game into My Little Ponies, then sign me up as a brony. PvP action is fine and fun, as long as it has some in-game reason, and there are in-game consequences for it.
I realize this but I'm just saying that's how it should be as I don't need to hide behind artificial protection nor do the pirates need to have tactical information artificially given to them in order to aid their ganks.
So were forced to play with NPC till death ? Cos PVP is too harsh for some and causing heart attacks ? :/
And how I will know if NPC is not a PC ? If some people stating that in apha is like even if you scan You dont know. Then as far as i know im killing NPCs, no problems then ? I understand the need of transponder but even if You scan ? thats a bit too far ... its like single player again all over.
Maybie add some special scanners that are restricted in "safe aka policed" zones ?
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Exactly... I really can't see any hypocracy in that.
Oh, and sorry Togg, I misread your name there.
So let me get this straight? You fail dismally to convince and get your point across in the DDF so you open a thread here on the "open side" of the fence to try and get people to back you? Yeah right Jeff, smart move that.
Exactly... I really can't see any hypocracy in that.
Oh, and sorry Togg, I misread your name there.
I think the hypocrisy is saying that I should be able to play the way I want (no pvp).
That means that people who want a pvp enviroment can't play the game THEY want. Living in a general universe and having pvp.
As someone in an earlier post mentioned, the two views are incompatible.
As someone in another post mentioned people who want PvE already have two (and a half) options.
So let me get this straight? You fail dismally to convince and get your point across in the DDF so you open a thread here on the "open side" of the fence to try and get people to back you? Yeah right Jeff, smart move that.
Sorry to disappoint you PacalB but convincing YOU was the last thing on my mind mate. Not all about you buddy.
I thought the DDF is becoming too closed and we're having the same arguments over and over again.
I didn't expect to drum up support here either (last time Cosmo tried it didn't work then either). I just wanted a breather on the subject outside the DDF.
I guess this would be a bad time to bring up Hardcore mode with Perma Death and Ladders
What do you think of passive mode in GTA V? 
yes, the risk in ed is inherent.
risk will be dealt as result of your actions, whatever those actions might be.
but you are wrong to say
currently the game generates part of the overall risk as a player (bounty holder) vs player (bounty hunter) conflict.
another good example are faction battles. since the first mp alpha we have had a constant central battlefield where players can choose a side to do battle on. if there is a minimum of 2 human players present that choose different sides, there is pvp.
obviously the majority of these conflicts play out as npc vs player already. given the fragmentation of playerbase and that teeny-weeny galaxy, i worry that even in the /all group ed will be akin to a single player game (not to talk about obfuscation again
)...hmpf
A very diehard roleplayer?
Seriously... i'm more interested in hearing from the obvious PvE crowd, if they are totally against meeting other players or does meeting other players have to be some sort of concensus between them (aka grouping) so not to risk getting attacked?
This sounds more and more like people just want to be left TOTALLY alone, because meeting other players could likely result in getting shot at.
Wait.. of course grouping with people you KNOW fixes that (no chance encounters there)
Well Maxeren; I'm 'Mostly' PvE. In other MMO,s Ive' always been PvE. I say 'Mostly' here because I'd like to be around other people for knowledge of game events/news, and the possible occaisional group in a mission I could not handle myself. But I am mostly lone wolf. Probably single player online.
Ok.. but does this then means you are inherantly against PvP and chance encounters which may or may not result in you being attacked?
Your thread title is emotionally loaded -1 rep.
FD asked us how to deal with things like harassment; verbal abuse; and so on. These kinds of things shouldn't be tolerated by society today as we're supposed to be more enlightened than that. Sadly there are some people who still drag their knuckles and as such they have to be dealt with. If you ignore the problem, in effect you're saying it's OK to be like that and it's not.
There are already tools being developed for the game - Ignore and Mute.
For the fringe cases where you have persistent people this may not be enough which was why FD asked us what we thought we should do with them. It has nothing to do with being a "nanny" state; nothing to do with babysitting; it has all to do with giving people a reasonable experience of the game as there are going to be a lot of people whose sole objective is to ruin yours and why should we let them ?
This didn't require a new thread in general.
There is nothing else really to say.
FD asked us how to deal with things like harassment; verbal abuse; and so on. These kinds of things shouldn't be tolerated by society today as we're supposed to be more enlightened than that. Sadly there are some people who still drag their knuckles and as such they have to be dealt with. If you ignore the problem, in effect you're saying it's OK to be like that and it's not.
There are already tools being developed for the game - Ignore and Mute.
For the fringe cases where you have persistent people this may not be enough which was why FD asked us what we thought we should do with them. It has nothing to do with being a "nanny" state; nothing to do with babysitting; it has all to do with giving people a reasonable experience of the game as there are going to be a lot of people whose sole objective is to ruin yours and why should we let them ?
- Piracy is not griefing
- Persistent griefers - moved to a griefing "all pilots" group
- Hackers / Cheaters - banned
- Report button for FD to deal with (Like it is now on the forum)
This didn't require a new thread in general.
There is nothing else really to say.
*Ok what about persistent pirating ?
*Agree about hackers and cheaters
*Does that mean if I dont like somebody i can report it too ? Or its just when someone is cursing and offending You ?
Again what is the "persistent griefer" mean exacly ?
I like it in general, not only in closed area of some sort, i paid for it too havent I ?
Griefing is when one player consistantly kills the SAME person over and over and over without intent other than to aggrevate the other person.
This is not what piracy is.. unless you of course kills the same person over and over and over not stating your intent.. then youre a griefer
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Not just one particular player singling out another for repetitive killing, it could be carried out by a series of apparently unconnected players too.