Sothis - Gold, Data or Biowaste?

[Limoncello Lizard]

Sothis is being discussed in the forum a fair bit lately, it's the legal version of Robigo. Good money to be made hauling biowaste. Stacking data missions to and from Ceos seems to be pretty good as well.
I've done a bit of searching through the forum for any mention of Sothis. There is plenty of discussion about long distance biowaste hauling and a fair bit about sothis-Ceos data missions. But very little mention of Sothis Gold.
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So I thought I'd ask why players go to Sothis.

 

[CptXabaras]

You should put another option on the poll. Biowaste & Data.

 

[777Driver]

I generally pick up the gold if I have any cargo space left over. Tbh it's a complete minor compared to missions. 700 tonnes capacity, 75 million worth of missions, just a few hundred thousand credits for the gold.

The data runs between Ceos/Sothis pay more than hauling a few tonnes of gold back to the bubble. You are looking at 40,000 up to 100,000 credits per mission on the short data runs.

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

I generally pick up the gold if I have any cargo space left over. Tbh it's a complete minor compared to missions. 700 tonnes capacity, 75 million worth of missions, just a few hundred thousand credits for the gold.

The data runs between Ceos/Sothis pay more than hauling a few tonnes of gold back to the bubble. You are looking at 40,000 up to 100,000 credits per mission on the short data runs.

This was my point in posting the poll. It seems a little silly to me that we have a distant station with a unique product, yet you can make 100 times as much hauling poo than the gold.
Apparently there is gold in Sothis, but it's brown.

 

[Varrag]

I'm not bothering with anything else except the biowaste. Poor Conda, must be smelling like a septic tank.

 

[Dregory The Crow]

Data missions are good to gain a local rep. Then, when you became an ally, you can hauling their poo. My Python is a space septic tank truck. [wacky]

 

[777Driver]

This was my point in posting the poll. It seems a little silly to me that we have a distant station with a unique product, yet you can make 100 times as much hauling poo than the gold.
Apparently there is gold in Sothis, but it's brown.

Sothis is just 1 out of 120 stations offering a rare good. The gold is still valuable for Cmdrs with small cargo holds or flying the rare goods circuits. Also why do people on this forum always relate to Biowaste as excrement? Biowaste is primarily medical waste & dead organic matter.

 

[Devlin-Darkside]

I'm not bothering with anything else except the biowaste. Poor Conda, must be smelling like a septic tank.

So not only does it look bad, it now it smells bad too

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

Sothis is just 1 out of 120 stations offering a rare good. The gold is still valuable for Cmdrs with small cargo holds or flying the rare goods circuits. Also why do people on this forum always relate to Biowaste as excrement? Biowaste is primarily medical waste & dead organic matter.

Wouldn't it be more immersive for long range missions from the 128 current rare good stations to be transporting the rare goods they sell? These goods are intended to be profitable over long distances, biowaste isn't. It seems a bit backwards to me.
Most of us are going by the game description:

Sterilised, then used as a basic form of fertiliser on many agricultural worlds.

 

[sbdags]

Wouldn't it be more immersive for long range missions from the 128 current rare good stations to be transporting the rare goods they sell? These goods are intended to be profitable over long distances, biowaste isn't. It seems a bit backwards to me.
Most of us are going by the game description:

Ah you have to think - what might they be hiding in the middle of that biowaste cannister that makes it so worthwhile transporting and so attractive to pirates? I think we are being a little naive to believe it is just ordinary biowaste.

 

[777Driver]

Wouldn't it be more immersive for long range missions from the 128 current rare good stations to be transporting the rare goods they sell? These goods are intended to be profitable over long distances, biowaste isn't. It seems a bit backwards to me.
Most of us are going by the game description:

Hehe, it's a bit more than just excrement, it covers organic matter. It's a huge industry, biowaste shipping didn't stem from Elite dangerous

Rare goods wouldn't be rare if we could truck 700 tonnes at time across populated space. I get where you are coming from, the thing is long haul trucking existed in Sothis way before the rare good came along. It was the mining CG that gave us the Crystalline Gold

 

[StevieG]

Sothis in 2.0 was beautiful. 2.1 its ok i suppose.

 

[Kiwirat]

The standout factor for me in carting all this biowaste is noticing that all the destination stations seem to orbit earth-like planets, so it seems that even in space we humans just have to keep on dumping crap on each other..

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

I get where you are coming from, the thing is long haul trucking existed in Sothis way before the rare good came along.

I hadn't thought of that. Damn, the flaw in my cunning plan.
Long haul, high volume trucking should pay well, provided the goods are needed at the destination.
Maybe extracting Sothis Gold has some weird effect on the Sothis residents that stations 100s of ly away are going to pay lots of money for their toenails [ugh]

 

[burzum]

I would really like to know a reasonable explanation for why the hell somebody would pay millions to get biowaste shipped over that long distance and why somebody else would try to kill you for <I love the silly filtering> waste.

This is just one of all the silly things in the "living and breathing" universe that totally fails to be believable in any point and brings the game down to a stupid grind machine. There is no other reason than credits for doing that mission. It lacks any immersive sense and background.

 

[Itaki]

I would really like to know a reasonable explanation for why the hell somebody would pay millions to get biowaste shipped over that long distance and why somebody else would try to kill you for <I love the silly filtering> waste.

This is just one of all the silly things in the "living and breathing" universe that totally fails to be believable in any point and brings the game down to a stupid grind machine. There is no other reason than credits for doing that mission. It lacks any immersive sense and background.

They wanted to interdict me for my 'tasty' cargo but I managed to deliver it and somehow that quelled civil unrest. This is the logic of ED, but it got me a new ship!

 

[Odan Brota]

I would really like to know a reasonable explanation for why the hell somebody would pay millions to get biowaste shipped over that long distance and why somebody else would try to kill you for <I love the silly filtering> waste.

This is just one of all the silly things in the "living and breathing" universe that totally fails to be believable in any point and brings the game down to a stupid grind machine. There is no other reason than credits for doing that mission. It lacks any immersive sense and background.

It's the corpses of those killed by the plague. We are shipping bodies far away to stations with the proper disposal equipment.

 

[kdjac]

On Tuesday I made 53 jumps in an Anaconda with 2m in cash (reasonable fighting ship at the time) to get to Sothis, I ran out of fuel and needed the Fuel Rats. I have completed 5 400LY runs and now have 163m and Anaconda is in transport mode, no weapons and 20ly laden jump range. Averaging 45m per run with this ship.

https://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda...-------06050505-38-47f32f24.Iw18ZlA=.Aw18ZlA=

 

[Moritz Norman]

Is Sothis actually better than the other long range hauling systems or is it just the most talked about right now?

 

[777Driver]

I would really like to know a reasonable explanation for why the hell somebody would pay millions to get biowaste shipped over that long distance

Probably best if you look at it the other way round, we are getting paid by New Dawn & Newholm to transport the cargo out of the system, it has to go somewhere, why would we get paid the same taking it off a stations hands and delivering 8LY away? The Markets at these station have zero demand for Biowaste, we are getting paid to get rid of the stuff and drop it off at agricultural worlds.

As far as interdictions go, it's rare that get I interdicted on these runs (Cutter master rank) We've been asking the devs to make pirates ignore certain cargo for as long as I can remember

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Is Sothis actually better than the other long range hauling systems or is it just the most talked about right now?

Sothis had been a good spot for quite some time, same deal with Takurua and Ceos. Darnielle's progress and a whole bunch of other long range ports pay good money. The Good thing about Sothis & Ceos is the fact that 90% of the cargo runs are legal cargo. Out of 700 tonnes I only have 42 tonnes of illegal goods onboard.

Takurua has been dry since the 2.1 Beta