You do understand that this is only the beginning of 3D-printed weapons?
Moreover, attempts to restrict or ban gun ownership will only likely speed up the process.
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You do understand that this is only the beginning of 3D-printed weapons?
Moreover, attempts to restrict or ban gun ownership will only likely speed up the process.
Minonian
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Seems like the prison population in the states still not big enough.
Minonian
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Minonian
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There is a little problem with this. Law don't give a damn, about your sorry exuses, and morality one of the most common sorry excuse what the notorious law breakers use as a shield to hide behind it. (and this is why they don't care!) The other most pathetic common excuse law breakers using? TO question the morality of the law.
And that's why the police, and guardmans don't give a damn about the wounded soul and pride of law breaker, and neither to their pathetic excuses. It's not in their job. Their job is to maintain order, and safety, for everyone! And if you can break law, by using the morality card?
You have a problem with it? Change it if you can! If not? Tough luck!
Warning! Exciplit.
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3D printing materiel's can't take the pressure required for firearms (literally), the example in your link is a non-rifled short barrel .22 single shot pistol. Which would be very low power, very low accuracy, incredibly slow rate of fire and very likely to explode.
A home made shotgun or an off the shelf air rifle would be much scarier.
Minonian
Banned
Yup, they are as close to useless as they can get. 
They can ban guns, and you still can't print really useful weapons, because the basics of the process. To create weapons you need much more stronger materials and better printers than your average household printer can do.
So as far the better printers whom capable to create items in good quality, and work with strong materials are harder to access?
And they will, because you don't need industrial and military grade items in your everyday life.
They can ban guns, and you still can't print really useful weapons, because the basics of the process. To create weapons you need much more stronger materials and better printers than your average household printer can do.
So as far the better printers whom capable to create items in good quality, and work with strong materials are harder to access?
And they will, because you don't need industrial and military grade items in your everyday life.
All you need is gun powder to make your own ammo, there are so many ways to kill people that its impossible to stop.
What is needed is a change in the mentality of peoples mind.
BTW a BB gun today can actually kill someone if its strait in the head.
Minonian
Banned
Most of the people are just too stupid for things like this, to make ammuniton buying harder, or just raise its price means a real burden. or you think a common street thug have the barains and patience to manufacture ammo? At least this restriction is less problematic for the real gun collectors, hunters and their kinds, but anyone who don't have the right background?
I agree! The problem is its not an easy thing to do. For that you need something big to happen, without blowing up the entire states.
True there all sorts of improvised ways to damage people, the ever present Shaun of the dead style blunt object isn't exactly rare. Martial arts training is arguably a permanent concealed weapon which requires no ammo, although it does need regular maintenance to be truly effective.
But guns make it really really easy to kill people in a small easily portable package, they require no real discipline or training to be effective deliberately or accidentally.
Minonian
Banned
Yep! Martial arts requires a lifetime of training, and with it in most cases also comes the discipline. But guns, when you can simply buy in the net?
I agree with that, and I actually are for strict control of weapons in the civilian population. However It should never be plain outlawed.
The problem is that the common street thug, can easily get a gun with ammo from the black market. That includes europe. In most EU countries they "only" use knifes, clubs or just being more than you, to get whatever they want from you.
I'm European, however I dislike the current gun laws in most EU countries. I also find it weird that in the UK they changed the law an no one protested,
the british got domesticated in my opinion
Death by gun shot.
Sweden 2012: 141
Germany 2012 :819
UK 2011:146
Finland 2011:157
Spain 2012:261
and ofc the USA with 450 million citizens and whatnot
2014: 33,599
And to compare with Mexico, where they have very strict gun laws.
2014: 13,505
And lastly Brazil where they also have very strict gun laws
2012: 42,416
Actually a country like Brazil with 200 million citizens, more strict gun laws and a lot of police on the streets have more gun violence than the US.
Brazil has institutional income inequality at levels that would make Senator Bernie Sanders' head melt.
Minonian
Banned
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Well, for that you need to access to the black market, what is not so easy.
The other thing if you know how to use throwing knifes than you are not in real need of guns. Have more setbacks, and less lethal, especially in untrained hands, but? Silent.
There's also an issue in Central/South America with loads of North American weapons getting sold off cheap, there was a flood of second hand revolvers when automatics became fashionable.
Indeed. American gun manufacturers love seeing unrest south of the US border.
Minonian
Banned
They only have opportunity, to dictate until you let them.
How one of our disgusting politicians said?
We don't ask the frogs to drain the swamp.
Well... In this case at least he was right. You are not going to ask the problem, he let you to resolve it, or not?
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I know Bob, but I can make a weapon in my garage that will kill you just as easy and from a distance.
https://youtu.be/fdvLxkH0ioc?t=2m30s
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They basically create it, and have been doing so for the last 50 years or more.
No it won't. It's easy to go around carrying a blade. Fashioning a club or a mace is even easier. People still don't carry them because it is illegal. All you need is harsh sentencing for people caught going about armed, and using such weapons to result in severe punishment. 3d printing a firearm that is worth anything is still far in the future, and you still need bullets.
Britain’s Gun-Control Folly
by Scott McPherson December 16, 2005
In response, allow me to quote at length from “Gun Control in England: The Tarnished Gold Standard,” written by historian Joyce Lee Malcolm and published in the fall 2004 issue of Journal on Firearms & Public Policy:
[Between 1997 and 2003] crimes with [banned firearms] have more than doubled…. In 2002, for the fourth consecutive year, gun crime in England and Wales rose — by 35 percent for all firearms, and by a whopping 46 percent for the banned handguns. Nearly 10,000 firearms offenses were committed…. Clearly since the ban criminals have not found it difficult to get guns and the balance has not shifted in the interest of public safety….
In the four years from 1997 to 2001 the rate of violent crime more than doubled. The UK murder rate for 2002 was the highest for a century….
A recent study of all the countries of western Europe has found that in 2001 Britain had the worst record for killings, violence and burglary, and its citizens had one of the highest risks in the industrialized world of becoming victims of crime….
And here’s the icing on the cake: “[A] United Nations study of eighteen industrialized countries, including the United States, published in 2002 … found England and Wales at the top of the Western world’s crime league, with the worst record for ‘very serious’ offenses.” [Emphasis added]
And all this while crime in the United States, including violent crime, has been steadily falling. The “Wild West” seems to be 3,000 miles to our east.
3D Printing functional firearms and bullets is in the very near future when 3D printers become as common as classic printers are Today. There are already free files and models to 3D Print it. This will liberalize and proliferate weapons in every country and people can manufacture and assemble it at home bypassing any laws.
Gun regulations only disarm people who follow the law. Criminals never follow the law and will use and sell weapons no matter the law. In countries with strict gun regulations it's still relatively easy to buy it as well. Just like how criminalizing drugs has never stopped people from using it. It increased supply via the black market.
It's a natural right for people to defend their life, liberty and property from others who want to violate it by force.
"If you are for gun control, then you are not against guns, because the guns will be needed to disarm people. So it’s not that you are anti-gun. You’ll need the police’s guns to take away other people’s guns. So you’re very Pro-Gun, you just believe that only the Government (which is, of course, so reliable, honest, moral and virtuous…) should be allowed to have guns. There is no such thing as gun control. There is only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small, political elite and their minions."
- Stefan Molyneux
by Scott McPherson December 16, 2005
In response, allow me to quote at length from “Gun Control in England: The Tarnished Gold Standard,” written by historian Joyce Lee Malcolm and published in the fall 2004 issue of Journal on Firearms & Public Policy:
[Between 1997 and 2003] crimes with [banned firearms] have more than doubled…. In 2002, for the fourth consecutive year, gun crime in England and Wales rose — by 35 percent for all firearms, and by a whopping 46 percent for the banned handguns. Nearly 10,000 firearms offenses were committed…. Clearly since the ban criminals have not found it difficult to get guns and the balance has not shifted in the interest of public safety….
In the four years from 1997 to 2001 the rate of violent crime more than doubled. The UK murder rate for 2002 was the highest for a century….
A recent study of all the countries of western Europe has found that in 2001 Britain had the worst record for killings, violence and burglary, and its citizens had one of the highest risks in the industrialized world of becoming victims of crime….
And here’s the icing on the cake: “[A] United Nations study of eighteen industrialized countries, including the United States, published in 2002 … found England and Wales at the top of the Western world’s crime league, with the worst record for ‘very serious’ offenses.” [Emphasis added]
And all this while crime in the United States, including violent crime, has been steadily falling. The “Wild West” seems to be 3,000 miles to our east.
3D Printing functional firearms and bullets is in the very near future when 3D printers become as common as classic printers are Today. There are already free files and models to 3D Print it. This will liberalize and proliferate weapons in every country and people can manufacture and assemble it at home bypassing any laws.
Gun regulations only disarm people who follow the law. Criminals never follow the law and will use and sell weapons no matter the law. In countries with strict gun regulations it's still relatively easy to buy it as well. Just like how criminalizing drugs has never stopped people from using it. It increased supply via the black market.
It's a natural right for people to defend their life, liberty and property from others who want to violate it by force.
"If you are for gun control, then you are not against guns, because the guns will be needed to disarm people. So it’s not that you are anti-gun. You’ll need the police’s guns to take away other people’s guns. So you’re very Pro-Gun, you just believe that only the Government (which is, of course, so reliable, honest, moral and virtuous…) should be allowed to have guns. There is no such thing as gun control. There is only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small, political elite and their minions."
- Stefan Molyneux
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