UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn

[Colonel Kenney]

Since coordinates can't exceed 180 degrees I'm willing to assume step 4 should actually be the coordinates - So I just overlaid a 180 degree protractor over the existing map to get the coords.

http://i.imgur.com/ntWUy0k.png

But then I thought maybe it isn't the radius after all, maybe that is designating the point of reference for the coordinates? So I rotated it.

http://i.imgur.com/MFyuqXo.png

So you can see we have many coords to check out.

Step 1) Align the protractor on the 140/138 degree line
Step 2) Rotate the protractor 90 degrees So also I was thinking Step 1 should be to rotate the protractor 90 degrees
Step 3) The coordinates are on this side of the globe.
Step 4) Draw Lines - These are the coordinates

 

[CMDR Runcible Shaw]

I would like to add my little contribution :

To me, the only part of the message that could lead to numbers is the "binaries" in the corners of the central image. The rest of the picture is not precise enough, because of the way the message has been enclosed.

I'm thinking the central part of the image is some kind of basic map, precise enough to give us strong reference point at galaxy level. The "binaries" is maybe the part where we get to narrow the search.
The left part of this triptych could be a little story about them.
The right part, maybe a description of where they live.

Something else to consider is what is the purpose of this message? Who is it destined to ? Is this an bottle in the galactic ocean, is this an invitation, a first contact, a simple greattings, a test or maybee a mayday signal?
The feds are up to no good so maybee they're involved. Is there a way to investigate in this direction to ?
I'm pretty sure of one thing, these are not Targoïds or else it's probably a trap

Anyway this is kind of basic and probably wrong, but my point is to bring some new ideas, to inspire the smart ones.

Without further adew, I present to you, the ETA CARINA theory !!!

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I tried the same sort of analysis and it tells me that the answers lie in my refrigerator. Irrefutable.

 

[slartybartfast]

I printed it out and folded it on a piece[url]http://i63.tinypic.com/302nsbo.jpg[/url] of paper

sp what happens to the 4th set of symbols?

 

[irongut]

they were reported 2 days ago, carrying MAs. but keep an eye out for anything like that, new stuff might pop up

Actually they were reported a week ago by myself (in detail) and another commander (with cargo scan pics). Not that our reports prevented someone apprearing on Canonn discord every night since telling us there are now Federation capitals and convoys in Merope!!!!

 

[CMDR-AD]

Is SOL as an origin just for the demo ? I don't think THEY would put SOL as a reference point.

Its intresting anyways, you sould look at 3D vectors

IIRC, there was a discussion earlier in this thread about how some alien life may be searching for SOL. Something about how the UAs had formed a shell reaching out just where it met the bubble of human space. Now, the UPs appear to be dropping very, very close to SOL and Sirius.

I also chose SOL because the center of the circular element has clear X and Y axis centered on the grid. And the diagonal line intersecting that X,Y origin could well be interpreted as the Z axis, which again, intersects the illustrated coordinate centered at 0,0,0.

And partly I chose it because there is absolutely nowhere else with any relevance, unless we center on Merope 5c. Could be that, who knows.

 

[Colonel Kenney]

Step 1) Align the protractor on the 140/138 degree line
Step 2) Rotate the protractor 90 degrees So also I was thinking Step 1 should be to rotate the protractor 90 degrees
Step 3) The coordinates are on this side of the globe.
Step 4) Draw Lines - These are the coordinates

So following my instructions this is what came out..

Anyone with a little more graphical artistry try this out?

The coords should be top right which lines up with the waves.

 

[CMDR Runcible Shaw]

I've been playing around with the hi-res gif in a package for de-blurring astronomical images and I've noticed a couple of things:

1) The noise (at least in the central interesting area) is not random, it's more like a constant additive noise image superimposed on the desired signal. This means that median / mean / minimum type operations don't help because they don't discriminate the signal we want. Frame 3 (labelled upmaiaB) shows what I mean - it has the same noise signature as the other 5 frames but offset earlier slightly. To remove it, I've been thinking about using the column intensity total to locate the noise signal time offset (it's the loudest timeslice in the signal) in each frame, and pull out pixels that are the same in all the frames to build up the noise image. Then I could subtract that from each frame (using the frame's noise time offset to site it) and get left with the signal. I think I'd have to write something in C++ to do that (which won't happen soon), since it's probably too specific to convince a graphics package to do.
2) The right hand portion that people have been assuming is a zoom in of the top right "ping the planet" symbol is not actually the arc of a circle. The left hand edge has a vertical line dropping off. This makes the image more like an italic D rotated 90 degrees left (without the ascender), and makes it look less like a planet.
3) The sample intensity is generally higher at lower frequencies - I am not so quick to discount the binary numbers at SW and SE as being that different from the NW and NE pair if we applied some kind of normalising gain to compensate for the effect.

In Audacity you can apply a gain per frequency which will even out things at higher frequencies.

 

[DustyArne]

I just mentioned missing data. that got me thinking.

its not on the front page.

Did we tried to honk at the UP with a UA next to it? Maybe they both start to communicate with each other? Maybe it will reveal the missing data we need?

 

[palazo]

I think the central circle represents the location of the object relative to the star in the system in which it is located.

As it is routinely the compass.

The other information should correspond to the location of the system within the galaxy.

 

[LordZoltan]

I just mentioned missing data. that got me thinking.

its not on the front page.

Did we tried to honk at the UP with a UA next to it? Maybe they both start to communicate with each other? Maybe it will reveal the mission data we need?

Yes it has been tried. Can't remember by who - but possibly both Zenith and Riz.

 

[knowles2]

More I look at the spectrograph the more shapes I see.

 

[MadDogMurdock]

I don't think we should get too stuck on xyz coordinate systems.

If anyone can get their head around the various polar and spherical coordinate systems and provide a 'simple' primer on how they work, especially in 3d, that might inspire someone.

It's a bit late for me to focus on but I might have another think on it tomorrow.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

If all the UP's point to one moon around one planet in one system, why would the message need to identify that same planet?? (we keep referring to it as a planet, but it's actually a moon).

If the pictogram is pointing to a location on the planet the UP is pointing to, I wouldn't expect any of the information to be related to identifying the celestial body - we already got that from where it's pointing. The UA/UP is already a compass. We don't need to have the object identified again.

Also, I saw a video of a UP dropped on the surface of Merope 5C, it rolled around and moved...I couldn't help but think "it's trying to point to the center"...but I saw some clipping while this was happening so it's likely a bug and not alien phenomenon.

 

[DustyArne]

Yes it has been tried. Can't remember by who - but possibly both Zenith and Riz.

Ah, ok..       ..

 

[CookieJarviz]

I have a few theories why the UP message is not for us.

1: When the UP charges up you can see our hud being glitch like and then it goes off completely.
2: When the EMP goes off. It pushes and could Potentially damage a ship.
3: It damages our ships internally. It seems that if the probe was meant for us. They might of found a way to contain the corrosion.

 

[Allant Doran]

I have a few theories why the UP message is not for us.

1: When the UP charges up you can see our hud being glitch like and then it goes off completely.
2: When the EMP goes off. It pushes and could Potentially damage a ship.
3: It damages our ships internally. It seems that if the probe was meant for us. They might of found a way to contain the corrosion.

The fact that an Alien race could even remotely begin to communicate, given the gulfs in culture and technology, is already a miracle. What you see as ''This isn't good enough, it is dangerous'' they might see as ''well thank goodness, we finally invented a method that doesn't guarantee killing the little man-things. What great technology!''

 

[Sterlino]

nobody yet honked the UP next to the barnacle ?

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I have a few theories why the UP message is not for us.

1: When the UP charges up you can see our hud being glitch like and then it goes off completely.
2: When the EMP goes off. It pushes and could Potentially damage a ship.
3: It damages our ships internally. It seems that if the probe was meant for us. They might of found a way to contain the corrosion.

IF it's a message and not just a snapshot of our HUD, it may not be for "US" but I think it was intended to be received by someone who would have no idea of how to communicate with the probe. Otherwise the message would not be presented in such a simplistic stick figure style. It would instead be encrypted in such a way as to prevent anyone without a key from reading it. We have the technology to do this today. No reason it couldn't be done by any spacefaring culture.

 

[Raisa]

nobody yet honked the UP next to the barnacle ?

but did anyone bother to honk at the UA with the advanced discovery scanner since 2.1 ?

 

[AlterIgor]

I seem to recall Riz did extensive tests with a range of scanners to both the UA and the UP prior to its demise including honking the UA.