Audio headset for VR recommendation

vizvayu

vizvayu
I'm looking to get a new audio headset to replace my Logitech G930. I like the G930 and the only reason I'm replacing it is because it falls down in VR when I look up or down. It's too heavy and too loose. It sounds barely decent to me, so I don't want anything worst sounding than that. I'm not looking for workarounds either like using rubber bands nor anything like that :)
So in short, what I'm looking for is a good sounding, closed back, preferably USB gaming headset that won't fall down when I make sudden head movements or look up or down. It must also have a noise-cancelling, rotating front/side mic (not the ones on the cable). I've been searching and found several options, but I don't know how tight they fit, and that's one of the most important things. So I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks :)
 

z4.MAFIA

z4.MAFIA
It depends on your definition of immersion. A closed-ear with high isolation will do a better job at cutting you off from the outside world, making you hear only the sounds you're supposed to be. The problem is that closed-ear will (barring a few expensive exceptions) have a very small soundstage, and the resonance plus dampening effects inherently caused by a closed system will make it sound more artificial. Conversely, a quality open-ear system will have a massive soundstage and a convincingly real, airy sound. Of course, the downside is very little to no isolation.

Depending on your situation, one could be more important than the other. You won't be very immersed if you're in a noisy environment and you're constantly reminded you're not where you see. The penalty is that, while you can only hear what you're supposed to, it doesn't sound realistic to your brain, reminding you in a different way you're not where you see. For VR, trying to convince yourself you're there is what we're trying to do. Using an open-ear in an environment where you don't need isolation is the best option, everything else is inferior.
 

Mikevet

Mikevet
I use a Sennheiser PC363D headset, excellent soundstage, good surround effect, light and comfortable with top class microphone easily rotated into play when needed. It also stays in place whatever you do with your head! I must admit though that I have been using the CV1 inbuilt headset since getting he CV1, for no reason other than convenience.
 
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TorTorden_VR

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I just use my NAD HP50, or my Kingston hyperx II that I got mostly for extended comfort and microphone.

The audio quality well that's easily the NAD.

But even the hyperx which I consider lower middle range in sound quality is significantly better than my old g930. Seriously the sound quality in logitech sets are just abysmal so if you are happy with that you might as well be happy with anything, although the par for gaming headsets is take something less than middling throw in a ton of hyperbole and charge 3x it's actual value.

That's mostly with the vive for the oculus I just the mounted ones since their practical and sound just as good maybe even better than most "gaming headsets".

Logitech is honestly biowaste wrapped in plastic stuff supported with even worse drivers and buggy software.
And I say that owning a g19, g15, g13 and a g700 I had to park the g930 awhile back since it doesn't work with windows 8 and beyond.
Constantly disconnecting, unless you close the g panel software then it works fine in a stereo capacity.
 
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vizvayu

vizvayu
z4.MAFIA said:
It depends on your definition of immersion. A closed-ear with high isolation will do a better job at cutting you off from the outside world, making you hear only the sounds you're supposed to be. The problem is that closed-ear will (barring a few expensive exceptions) have a very small soundstage, and the resonance plus dampening effects inherently caused by a closed system will make it sound more artificial. Conversely, a quality open-ear system will have a massive soundstage and a convincingly real, airy sound. Of course, the downside is very little to no isolation.

Depending on your situation, one could be more important than the other. You won't be very immersed if you're in a noisy environment and you're constantly reminded you're not where you see. The penalty is that, while you can only hear what you're supposed to, it doesn't sound realistic to your brain, reminding you in a different way you're not where you see. For VR, trying to convince yourself you're there is what we're trying to do. Using an open-ear in an environment where you don't need isolation is the best option, everything else is inferior.
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You know I was just reading about that. So yeah, I'm going with an open headset.
I think I'm getting the Sennheiser Game One. According to the reviews I read it fits very tight so I don't think it'll move ir fall. And besides that, I like the detachable cable, so I can use a shorter one. And I have the option to get the USB adapter too, in case I need it. I was initially looking for an USB headset because they tend to have better mics overall, but in this case the mic in the Game One is very good.

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Mikevet said:
I use a Sennheiser PC363D headset, excellent soundstage, good surround effect, light and comfortable with top class microphone easily rotated into play when needed. It also stays in place whatever you do with your head! I must admit though that I have been using the CV1 inbuilt headset since getting he CV1, for no reason other than convenience.
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That looks like a very nice headset. But I think I'll get the Game One because of the detachable cable. Looks very similar anyway.

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TorTorden said:
I just use my NAD HP50, or my Kingston hyperx II that I got mostly for extended comfort and microphone.

The audio quality well that's easily the NAD.

But even the hyperx which I consider lower middle range in sound quality is significantly better than my old g930. Seriously the sound quality in logitech sets are just abysmal so if you are happy with that you might as well be happy with anything, although the par for gaming headsets is take something less than middling throw in a ton of hyperbole and charge 3x it's actual value.

That's mostly with the vive for the oculus I just the mounted ones since their practical and sound just as good maybe even better than most "gaming headsets".

Logitech is honestly biowaste wrapped in plastic stuff supported with even worse drivers and buggy software.
And I say that owning a g19, g15, g13 and a g700 I had to park the g930 awhile back since it doesn't work with windows 8 and beyond.
Constantly disconnecting, unless you close the g panel software then it works fine in a stereo capacity.
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The NAD HP50 is on my list since last year :) Well actually I still can't decide between the NAD HP50 and the Audio Technica ATH-M70x... but I'm not buying it right now so I'm not in a rush anyway.
But right now I'm looking for a headset. I need the mic.
 
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NoshDaMinsk

NoshDaMinsk
My CV1 headphones work great - and it has a mic as well.

I have an expensive set of headphones, which now are in a carrier bag (so they don't pick up any dust).

I have read that people that have said the sound quality is poorer with the CV1 headphones - but I am not so sure - there again, I do not have the hearing capabilities of a dog and therefore cannot discern such differences........

Nosh
 
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vizvayu

vizvayu
NoshDaMinsk said:
My CV1 headphones work great - and it has a mic as well.

I have an expensive set of headphones, which now are in a carrier bag (so they don't pick up any dust).

I have read that people that have said the sound quality is poorer with the CV1 headphones - but I am not so sure - there again, I do not have the hearing capabilities of a dog and therefore cannot discern such differences........

Nosh
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Well I have a Vive, and it only comes with in-ear headphones without a mic... so that's why I have to get a headset.
 

JerryLove

JerryLove
I have a pair of the Cosair RGB. They are pleasantly lose on the head, the sound is very good for gaming (not an audiophile set), and the mic works well.
 

Stygian

Stygian
NoshDaMinsk said:
My CV1 headphones work great - and it has a mic as well.

I have an expensive set of headphones, which now are in a carrier bag (so they don't pick up any dust).

I have read that people that have said the sound quality is poorer with the CV1 headphones - but I am not so sure - there again, I do not have the hearing capabilities of a dog and therefore cannot discern such differences........

Nosh
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Meh, I couldn't stand the Rift speakers, my Astro A50's crap all over them and they suck compared to "good" headphones. I just don't get the hype over the rift speakers, the sound like tinney $20 PoS to me.

To the OP, if you are looking to try a closed back, the beyerdynamic DT 770 comes well recommended from what I have read and I have a pair on the way to find out myself.
 

vizvayu

vizvayu
Thanks for the suggestions. I know KOSS headphones, I had a KOSS KSC75 for several years, it's cheap and has very good sound (the cables gave up though). Right now I have an AKG K518DJ, which is a great heapdhone for the price. A little bit boomy and with limited soundscape, however that's because it's closed back. Otherwise the sound is incredible, very well balanced and the isolation is very good.
However this time I'm looking for a headset. I want a headset with a decent mic, which can be muted physically (ie rotating the mic, and not by software like Vive's mic).
I'm finally buying the Sennheiser Game One, it seems to be just what I'm looking for.
 

Dar|{cyde

Dar|{cyde
Go over to head-fi.org, read for a few days, decide what you like best. Be warned, you will probably end up spending waaay more money than you intended at the start. If that is something you're susceptible to, maybe avoid.

Get an open backed headphone with NO mic. Almost w/out exception, gaming/mic equipped headsets are garbage. http://www.modmic.com/ Those are awesome, you can attach it to any headphone you buy.

You never specified how much you're willing to spend... but the best sound will come from planar magnetic headphones. Fostex T50RPs are a great place to start, but looks like the new ones have horrible bass. If you like modifying stuff, go for the Fostex and get moddin. http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/diyers-delight-fostex-t50rp-mk3. If you don't want to mod them, HiFiman makes awesome planars, but you will pay for the privilege. Also, poke around for sale forums for headphones, there's plenty of fools who go thru headphones like candy, and are constantly selling them so they can buy a bigger and better set. Nothing to fear in buying used headphones, long as they're functioning it just means someone broke them in for you.
 

vizvayu

vizvayu
I'm listening to my new Sennheiser Game One right now, and I'm very happy with them :)

Cmdr. z4.Mafia you we right about open headphones, the soundscape is so much better, big and open. The bass is sharp and clear. Overall it's a great headset and a very nice headphone for music too.

Cmdr. Dar|{cyde, thank you for your input. It was a little too late because I had already ordered the new headset, but anyway I've been visiting head-fi for several years now. I posted here instead because I was searching specifically a headset to use with the Vive, and wanted to be sure the headset was tight enough and wouldn't fall in VR. Besides, in my country is quite difficult to find good headphones and I was lucky to find this one, and it had a big discount so I had to take the risk.

Thanks everyone!
 
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