UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Trouble here is we know that the message is of human origin, because it was created by Frontier Developments. Bit concerned that what we might reason out of significance because the message "can't" use human systems is actually significant after all. The UAs did transmit in Morse, after all... Issue here could well be that we're taking the immersion more seriously than FD have been.

If we want to go metagame on it (and we're discussing it offline on a forum, so... you know...) do we know who at FD are likely to have put the message together? What are the buttons for their nerdgasms?

Maybe it has actually human origin but we keep wanting to think it is alien.. If you want to create an alien picture you don't need to follow any human pattern, e.g. Barnacles (even them are engineered..)
 
Maybe it has actually human origin but we keep wanting to think it is alien.. If you want to create an alien picture you don't need to follow any human pattern, e.g. Barnacles (even them are engineered..)

I'm pretty sure a comment from FD about the Barnacles is that it is our first encounter with an 'Alien Lifeform' but I can't find the quote while I'm working.

They COULD be human but given their aesthetic, processes and functions being SO different to everything else in the game can be explained as a narrative device that demonstrates 'these are not of you'
 
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Couldn't find this in the FAQ.... Could the UP be weaponize ? i.e. does it respond to scan when in the hold and does carrying meta-alloy bestow any protection on the carrying ship ?
 
I think we can take as given that the aliens are trying to communicate. It would thus be illogical to make the message over complicated - after all we are supposed to understand it. Most of the hypotheses in circulation are overly complicated or lack proof to back them up.

My personal theory is still that the UP message is a key to some future transmission. If only because it's an excellent tool to time the progression of the story and keep people busy over-analyzing :p

I dont think the message is for us. Cause if it was. They would try to make it as simple as possible. And the fact that it points to 5C... not any of our colonised planets or stations.
 
That's a real mystery. Would love to find out where the Feds are stealing these things from. Context is generally considered important!

Soooo.... are there any more plans to find and jack some more of these things?
I've been looking for a couple hours today in ross 47 and the other "Hotspots" I've not seen a single threat 4....Probs just poor luck and bad rng for me But its seems there much rarer now(and they were rare in the first place) Theres a ton of threat 4s in sirius but all I've checked have been hafium transports(doesnt mean no probe but so far none)
 
Couldn't find this in the FAQ.... Could the UP be weaponize ? i.e. does it respond to scan when in the hold and does carrying meta-alloy bestow any protection on the carrying ship ?

Umm, no...and not that we're aware of. Only response comes from when the probe is free floating, and I dont believe there's any proof that MA slows the degradation of your ship, despite the convoys carrying them.
 
Further to a previous post of mine, here is an overlay of the circle diagram on top of the barnacle layout. I couldn't really get anything to match up so this is likely a wash. I'm curious how old this barnacle layout is though and if it's accurate to all barnacles on Merope 5c or just some of them. We also have double barnacles now, so maybe if I had a diagram of that I could overlay this with more success.

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I,m sure I read somewhere that Professor Palin sells UA proof cargo holds that you can buy from his outfitters, so maybe the UA still needs to be a specific place for a scan.....just random thoughts.
 
I dont think the message is for us. Cause if it was. They would try to make it as simple as possible. And the fact that it points to 5C... not any of our colonised planets or stations.

Possible, but it was only emitted after the probe was honked, so my hypothesis would be that the probe interpretes the honk as a wish to establish communication. We haven't encountered a probe yet that just transmits the message *somewhere* without first being triggered.
 
I dont think the message is for us. Cause if it was. They would try to make it as simple as possible. And the fact that it points to 5C... not any of our colonised planets or stations.

Maybe not, but if it's not for us, why does it happen to only broadcast its message when we use a scanner on it?
 
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That would mean that the message is for "someone" or "something" on Merope 5C ?

That's where one of my previous theories kicks in. Someone got stranded on 5c. UAs are like a HELP written on the sand, UPs would be the message in a bottle.
Of course, this doesn't help us in any way, shape or form.
 
Maybe it was already mentioned, but for me UP reaction after being scanned is unfrendly, maybe not hostile. It pushed back CMDR's ship like it did not recognized it and returned some information, which purpose is unclear for me. Maybe it's sth like "invalid parameters, read help" ;) or it really (as it was mentioned here) scanned hud to know "who is". But this scan is also not complete for me. Like UP didn’t have enough power or instructions...
 
By the way, to those people thinking that the message must be very simple as they want us to understand it, here is an example real message that we have sent for aliens. See if you can understand it:

http://www.activeseti.org/images/evpatoria_2003.jpg

Didn't know that one. Good one! Thanks for sharing it :)

In fact parts of it are very easy to understand though - for example the very first bit where the "protocoll" is established (aka numbers and signs are being taught) and obviously the bits that are self explanatory if you are a human :p
 
Indeed, but we could always destroy a UA to generate a UF in the presence of a UP and then honk it!
I'd also note that the colouring of a UF is more like a UP than a UA.

I'd also like to repeat my request for a UP scoop test:
1. Position the UP right in front of an open cargo scoop.
2. Honk.
3. Scoop the UP before the transmission.
4. Science!!! (likely a negative result but that's still science)

Probably requires a second pilot to act as a spotter for the UP positioning and scoop timing.

If I had an UP I'd do it for sure! And, no, it can be done alone as well ;)

Other tests on top of my list:
1) Honk the UP over M5c and check the Planet Map for something new to show up on it. A detailed surface scanner could be a thing as well here.
(I did this test, but I forgot to check the Map cause the UP was falling down very fast....)
2) After honking at the UP, check if you can plot a route to Polaris, or COL 70 or whatever permit locked system/region. With an UP simply in hold, this did not occurr, as I checked it many times.

I don't think these tests will success, anyway, because all of them do not take into any account the spectrogram's drawing.

In my humble opinion I still think that tests on the surface are useless: whatever the UP will "open" as a key, I firmly think it will open it while in space: until now, in fact, every ED player, Horizons or not, could/should be able to unveil it. Until now, with what we have, this "rule" is not broken still.
 
I am unsure if this has been tried or if its even a thing. So I will ask my question and offer an idea.

I want to know if adding more power to the UAs and UPs will cause any kind of change.

When the Engineers came out I thought that we were given access to new weaponry that instead of doing damage either boosted shields and or did some other such beneficial change to the ship.

Have we tried that on one of these UAs or UPs? If so what were the results? I am not trying troll or get anyone to blow the things up. I just dont have access to those Engineer options yet or I would try them myself.


Edit: Also maybe try on the Barnacles.
 
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1) Honk the UP over M5c and check the Planet Map for something new to show up on it. A detailed surface scanner could be a thing as well here.
That's kind of what I was thinking. I do not think surface tests will work with a UP as well as in space.
 
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