UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Personally, I don't think the moon is yet ready or unlockable - it still doesn't show a red (permit locked) landfall symbol on the system map.

I agree, but why Triton has one is beyond me. Although, it has an atmospshere of 14 microbar, mayby this is the Moon FDev uses for their tests on new kinds of planets?
 
It could be that the UP is just doing what it did before, describing things in its proximity. What it has done now is moved onto more technical and complex things as the spectrograph looks like a stylised representation of our cockpit display.
This may be an effort by the probes to get a more detailed understanding of us.
 
A question for Elite long-timers;

What WAS first contact with Thargoids? Did we discover their ships? Was it a base on a planet? Was it a deliberate meeting or an accident?
 
So that means the information in the UP about the planet in the sound is NOT merope it is from a nearby planet probably in the UA range.

Its just the wording the U P is the PROBE which is something you'd think would be the thing looking since its a probe.. the artifact who knows what it is. Maybe it is the more advanced of the 2?
That's a testable theory.

Michael

I posted this a few (hundred) pages back but it got buried before it was approved. I think now is a good time to post it again, given the circumstances.

This theory takes the stance that the message produced by the UP consists solely of a map, meant to guide us to a certain planet somewhere in/near the Pleiades. It relies on the assumption that the top two glyphs are binary numbers, with the least-significant bit on the right, and the bottom two glyphs simply define the "focus area" of the message, and can thus be safely ignored.
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The top-left glyph represents the number 2, and combined with the quarter-circle around the center sphere, suggests that the planet we're looking for is land-able, and is the 2nd moon of its parent body.

The top-right glyph represents the number 3, and combined with the two quarter-circles surrounding the glyph, suggest that the parent body is the 3rd body in the system, and that it has two ring systems.

The bottom-left quadrant represents two lines, each coming from one of the system's stars (so the system must have at least two stars), and intersecting with the planet.

The bottom-right quadrant is a line coming from the north pole, to the target area.

To summarize: The top hemisphere helps us find out which body we're looking for, and the bottom hemisphere helps us find where on that body to look. I realize this theory makes a lot of assumptions, but I believe the majority of these assumptions are sound, especially when considering that the creators of the message would have wanted to make it as simple as possible to understand, similarly to the SETI message. The weakest assumption in my opinion is the one regarding the meaning of the bottom-left quadrant, but overall I think this theory is worth investigating.

Let me know what you all think.
 
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Emmm it does have a B planet i suggest you scan again :p

I could have sworn I've scanned it many times, maybe not fully i guess. Boy am I stupid if that is the case. haha.
 
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I posted this a few (hundred) pages back but it got buried before it was approved. I think now is a good time to post it again, given the circumstances.

This theory takes the stance that the message produced by the UP consists solely of a map, meant to guide us to a certain planet somewhere in/near the Pleiades. It relies on the assumption that the top two glyphs are binary numbers, with the least-significant bit on the right, and the bottom two glyphs simply define the "focus area" of the message, and can thus be safely ignored.
The top-left glyph represents the number 2, and combined with the quarter-circle around the center sphere, suggests that the planet we're looking for is land-able, and is the 2nd moon of its parent body.

The top-right glyph represents the number 3, and combined with the two quarter-circles surrounding the glyph, suggest that the parent body is the 3rd body in the system, and that it has two ring systems.

The bottom-left quadrant represents two lines, each coming from one of the system's stars (so the system must have at least two stars), and intersecting with the planet.

The bottom-right quadrant is a line coming from the north pole, to the target area.

To summarize: The top hemisphere helps us find out which body we're looking for, and the bottom hemisphere helps us find where on that body to look. I realize this theory makes a lot of assumptions, but I believe the majority of these assumptions are sound, especially when considering that the creators of the message would have wanted to make it as simple as possible to understand, similarly to the SETI message. The weakest assumption in my opinion is the one regarding the meaning of the bottom-left quadrant, but overall I think this theory is worth investigating.

Let me know what you all think.

Surely whether a planet is landable is game enforced i.e. in the real galaxy we would be able to land on earth. It wouldnt make sense for aliens to make the landable planet assumption
 

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A question for Elite long-timers;

What WAS first contact with Thargoids? Did we discover their ships? Was it a base on a planet? Was it a deliberate meeting or an accident?

First contact was them pulling you out of Witch Space in the original Elite and blowing you to smithereens :p

First contact was made by GalCop and then a couple of years later the Thargoids attacked their homeworld.
 
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The larger is the "head" that points to Merope 5c.

Is the larger head on the UP the same size as the UA head? Are they graphically the same or just similar? I know they are different colors.

But you are wrong: UA can be found in ANY system between 135 and 150ly from Merope. ;)

I've not done a tremendous amount of UA hunting, but I have been bookmarking the systems I've found them in (the Palin Eng requirement) and that's not what I've experienced. I spent lots of time in deep space in star only systems in the shell doing that requirement and never saw one. Jump to another system with metal planets and one shows up within a couple minutes. I've been bookmarking/mapping the shell in-game and it usually takes me a couple systems to find one with UAs in it. I'll go back with more patience and try to find one in different types of systems. (Also once after I'd been in the galaxy map a while and came back to my ship at 30k ls away from the star, i guess just "Deep Space" is the requirement.)

I think for the Palin requirement most people are just googling and all going to the same system so we aren't really getting much new data.
 
given that UAs are found in a shell 135-150LY around Merope, that would imply they were launch from everywhere outside of that range.

It makes much more sense that they either came from Merope, or that they came from some other, unknown (omg it works on so many levels!), place and they somehow dropped into these systems and stayed there to mark Merope in some way.

I've long been a proponent of the idea that they came from Merope. Which could of course be wrong - they might simply have been stationed there.

But I don't think they're heading there, though - because I think they'd have got there if they're able to spread themselves across 3,800,00LY3 of space.


Does make me think, though...

Where was that first free floater found again?

Well, I'll say it again. Whether the UA/UP are coming from OR going to Merope 5C, the implication is that there is something on 5C of significance in the storyline!! [yesnod]
 
Is the larger head on the UP the same size as the UA head? Are they graphically the same or just similar? I know they are different colors.



I've not done a tremendous amount of UA hunting, but I have been bookmarking the systems I've found them in (the Palin Eng requirement) and that's not what I've experienced. I spent lots of time in deep space in star only systems in the shell doing that requirement and never saw one. Jump to another system with metal planets and one shows up within a couple minutes. I've been bookmarking/mapping the shell in-game and it usually takes me a couple systems to find one with UAs in it. I'll go back with more patience and try to find one in different types of systems. (Also once after I'd been in the galaxy map a while and came back to my ship at 30k ls away from the star, i guess just "Deep Space" is the requirement.)

I think for the Palin requirement most people are just googling and all going to the same system so we aren't really getting much new data.
One of the systems that seems to have a high spawn rate to UA's is Just a single star! it seems most or all systems in the shell can spawn a USS with one....Its just luck if you get one to spawn while some systems are likely to spawn them(Aries Dark Region GW-W D1-52 for example) I've personally found most of my UA's in Single star systems!
 
The first free floater UA was found in HR 1185 (Xbox player!): VERY CLOSE TO MEROPE.
That's why I've always thought they STARTED from Merope, and then expanded.

They were deployed in Merope, to start a search.

Deployed from what? And why? why Merope? (rather than any other of the Pleiades systems), why Merope 5C? ( it's very nondescript as moons/planets go)
 
A question for Elite long-timers;

What WAS first contact with Thargoids? Did we discover their ships? Was it a base on a planet? Was it a deliberate meeting or an accident?


Murder.

They interdicted you in hyperspace and murdered you. They were mysterious and hostile. That was pretty much it in the first game.
 
Murder.

They interdicted you in hyperspace and murdered you. They were mysterious and hostile. That was pretty much it in the first game.

Well that is incredibly cruel. Still, it is interesting to think that this time the build up to an alien encounter is much more slow and deliberate.

Unless this is the 'Contact' counter argument; that if aliens sent us schematics we would build it, even if it turned out to be a weapon lol
 
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