UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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SocraticMammal

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Jorki Rasalas said:
Deployed from what? And why? why Merope? (rather than any other of the Pleiades systems), why Merope 5C? ( it's very nondescript as moons/planets go)
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I know what this is asking, but has anyone shot or maybe a mining laser on a UP to try and see if it cracks open into a UA? Maybe that's what MB means by testable.

I'm looking at pictures of both side by side and keep thinking the large section looks like a payload, ie the "instrumentation".

UA: Blue glow, small head toward Merope in "inbound/reporting" mode. Periodical goes "active". Spins in space.
UP: Red glow, small head away from Merope in "outbound" mode. Silent until pinged. (spins in space?)
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
SocraticMammal said:
Rizal, size wise, what end of the UP matches the end of the UA? The large one or the small one? Could the UP be the "deployable" version of the UA? Once at it's destination one end opens up and looks like the UA at that point.

Maybe the audio instructions aren't for us, but instructions for the UP/UA. "Go make a shell, monitor, report back."

Also isn't there a specific type of system the UA's are found in. In looking for them in the 135-150 range don't they only show up in systems with metal rich landable worlds? Isnt that the same criteria as barnacle worlds? Could they be looking for "barnacle habital worlds" and deployed as "here's one".


Going off the rails here: Weren't these things said to be "genetically engineered". Barnacles take in metals and produce meta-alloys. Probes/UAs find other suitable worlds for "barnacle factories". It's a colonizing technique. Aliens come later and have all the material they need for construction.
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I like this theory. It is somewhat coherent, however it doesn't explain all the sonogram glyphs, nor UP 5C pointing, nor why only one UA shell has been found
 

Dutchman141

Dutchman141
I'm on vacation in France at the moment and love it but I'm also a bit bummed about not being able to participate in any search for clues etc.
Just one more week and I'll be home again......


On topic.

There's something that I can't stop thinking about after the hints we got from MB.

The UA's point to Merope, a place on the galactic map, you'll have to go there to find that what the UP points at with Merope as center
The UP points towards Merope 5c, the object around Merope's center point given by the UA.

I think that since the UP points towards Merope 5c we have to look around 5c using the image it gave us.
I don't think we'll have to look outside the Merope system, or in other words the UA bubble, because the UA gave us a location on the galactic map allready, Merope, the UP gave us a location in the system map.
You can't use Merope 5c as centerpoint on the galactic map, you can only use Merope's primary star for that.

Imho I think we need to search, using the UP's image, either around Merope 5c or on 5c itself.
How far has anyone gone outside the known orbits around Merope?

I.e. the voyager is way out in the black in Sol, not within Sol's orbital perimeter, so maybe there's something in Merope's space outside the orbital perimeter. Doesn't rule out the possibility of something within the orbital perimeter or on one of the other bodies in the system.
The UP image might be the key of finding that while using 5c as center.
Or something new and undiscovered on 5c itself.

At least I think we don't have to look outside the Merope system.

Maybe I'm being daft here but it's something that I keep thinking of.
I'll get back to my French cheese and wine now..........

Good hunting fellow commanders 07
 

Raisa

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H3lios said:
We're spending so much time on these probes when FD has confirmed that crashed alien ships are in the game as of 2.1 and that tipoffs are the way to find them. We need to find one and take a UP to it because I bet that the UP is the 'key' to unlocking the alien ship's data core.
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a streamer said that alien ships are in the game as of 2.1, not Fdev
 

Siranui

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Allant Doran said:
Well that is incredibly cruel. Still, it is interesting to think that this time the build up to an alien encounter is much more slow and deliberate.

Unless this is the 'Contact' counter argument; that if aliens sent us schematics we would build it, even if it turned out to be a weapon lol
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Only having 48k of RAM was rather a restriction, first time around.

Although they worked well: Mysterious, hostile, and worthy of fear: Partly fear of the unknown, but mostly fear because they were excellent at space murder.

Hopefully this encounter set-up is something a little more interesting than Thargoids. They've lost much of their impact as a story-telling device, through familiarity and prior victories against them.
 

SocraticMammal

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Blagsc said:
One of the systems that seems to have a high spawn rate to UA's is Just a single star! it seems most or all systems in the shell can spawn a USS with one....Its just luck if you get one to spawn while some systems are likely to spawn them(Aries Dark Region GW-W D1-52 for example) I've personally found most of my UA's in Single star systems!
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Ok, good to know. I'll give your system a try. Thanks
 

MadDogMurdock

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I bookmarked all the systems where I found a UA while I was collecting UFs.

We used to maintain a list of shell systems - is that still going?
Added: Apologies - found it on the first page.
 
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Layne Vakarian

Layne Vakarian
MadDogMurdock said:
You are applying your own bias to steer the group.
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Ha! Lord Zoltan steer, steer the group? He should be so lucky! He has ideas. Also theories. I fact I do seem to recall him having a good one once too :)
Some form of control over the biggest bunch of independent-minded Commanders this side of anywhere at all though?
Sorry, no.
I do detect a note of frustrated excitement in there though. Oh no wait! - That's me projecting ;)
 
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-VR- Max Factor

-VR- Max Factor
First time posting here. I was wondering if the UP may be a galaxy map of some kind, with the central area centered on SAG A. with the other bits pointing to different areas of the galaxy.
 

MadDogMurdock

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Silent Pact said:
Ha! Lord Zoltan steer, steer the group? He should be so lucky! He has ideas. Also theories. I fact I do seem to recall him having a good one once too :)
Some form of control over the biggest bunch of independent-minded Commanders this side of anywhere at all though?
Sorry, no.
I do detect a note of frustrated excitement in there though. Oh no wait! - That's me projecting ;)
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Frustration!? Moi?

Yup, absolutely.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Allant Doran said:
Well that is incredibly cruel. Still, it is interesting to think that this time the build up to an alien encounter is much more slow and deliberate.

Unless this is the 'Contact' counter argument; that if aliens sent us schematics we would build it, even if it turned out to be a weapon lol
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As I remember the lore, which may no longer be valid (who knows?) and my memory is poor so hazy on the details: an Imp battleforce came across a single Thargoid ship & destroyed it. Then her sisters turned up & destroyed the battleforce. Then there was war & they often pulled you out of witchspace & quickly destroyed you. The mother ships deploy 6 or more drone Thargons, you have to kill the mother ship to survive; the drones then became inactive & could be scooped & sold
 

Matt

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I think its worth considering this is not necessarily a planetary map in the hidden message.

Considering that these probes "point" to Merope, its worth considering that the --|/first step is actually saying "go to this point in the galaxy" (i..e merope)

It then gets more interesting to think about the meaning of the other symbols in terms of this "go to this star" message :) In my mind -||/3 is totally do a discovery scan, but -|-/2 and |--/4 remain a mystery to me.
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
xcyber said:
Here some pics to help identify type of navigation used.


http://onboardintelligence.com/CelestialNav/Images/astro6.gif

https://sextantbook.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/photo.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y4v2k0akpbk/TnSWfAjnOTI/AAAAAAAAAA8/wWPU6ZBc0qY/s1600/my.jpg

http://www.efalk.org/Navigation/plot9.gif

http://www.math.ubc.ca/~cass/courses/m308-02b/projects/jackson/Figs/Fig2.jpg
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i just had to let my head out to make room for that extra information in my brain.
 

rge

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On the first page I could see that a single UP getting honked in different locations, sends out the same sound/image.

The next interesting questing would be: What does another UP send out?
Has this been tested? Does a second UP send the same image?
Maybe I missed that info in this massive wall of info and tinfoilery ...

If yes, then we are looking for a single place (maybe "home"). If not, it might be "scans" of other planets, trying to send home. Like the UA does.
 
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Colonel Kenney

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CMDR Random said:
Perhaps the orbital of 5c is relevant as it is rather striking. If 5c is a point of reference then we have to look for things which are relatively fixed and measurable and wont change as 5c orbits Merope 5 and Merope 5 orbits Merope.

The relavant figures are

Arc of Periapsis +138.32
Orbital Inclination - 75.80
Tilt -15.78
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That is what I was thinking too.

But what are the angles on the diagram? I was thinking the 2 angles were the tilt but then you have the grid which references NSEW and one of the lines isn't on it so it can't reference the tilt.

So what do those 3 lines mean?

I'm thinking the 90 degree arc is telling us the planet has an atmosphere...
 
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