UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Here is my theory. one among many others. the UA's emit Morse to signify that they know who we are and what we are, making us and where we come from a POI add to that the UA and UP point to merope making it a POI. taking that info and combining it with the image the UP gives us, what if we line up the two prongs of the UP image with sol and merope. giving us a reference for a map.
 
I heard Merope has a circular orbit which is strange has anyone worked out where the planet would have to be for it to be where the line ends in the drawing. Maybe we are in for a waiting game and when the time is right the probes will call their creators?
 
The simplest/most logical hypothesis I can make out of the diagram is that it is coordinates to a location on merope 5c. Use the angles to get the coordinates, but then we would need signifiers for "latitude" and "longitude" in order to use the coordinates. These signifiers seem simple:

1. The two half circles in the upper right quadrant may be away to indicated "latitude" to other species. When viewing a globe from above, this is how latitude lines appear (parallel with different circumferences as you move through the z-axis of the planetary body).

2. The upper left quadrant then signifies "longitude", using a single long arc that intersects with the planet's poles.

Then using the binary digits to read the diagram in order, one can start at l-- using the angle as a coord for -l- (longitude). Moving clockwise to step -ll (signifying latitude), we now get the lat. coord from the angles given in step --l.

Finally an alien would need something to indicate whether the coords are + or -. Overlaying the far right section of the spectrograph with the middle portion creates an image in which the two half circles in the upper right quadrant overlap perfectly (indicating positive coords), while a new "longitude" arch over laps with the lower left quadrant ( indicating negative coords).

Im testing different coords on merope 5c now and throughout this week to see if this holds true. After all the probe points toward merope 5c :).


That's what everyone though in initially, and still do. But the probe also points there probably to report back to. It was hinted that maybe merope isnt the planet we are looking for

I'm starting to look at the clue a being a more "broad" description of the planet/system we are looking for. The bottom dots and dashes representing the 3rd planet in a system of 5. The top could mean its a moon around a ringed planet etc..
 
Sorry, I literally fell asleep mid reply - I have already edited it

When the orbit is circular you use that measurement; the argument of latitide ( I could not think of its name) in place of the argument of peri to describe the highest point of inclination/latitude.

Yeah, just saw the edit. Hmm. Not sure about the argument of latitude - thought that was itself undefined [edit no wait that's 0-inclination. Ah I give up...] for circular orbits and in any event varied with time? - but given how rusty I am, it seems churlish of me to quibble and I suspect the thread needs more signal, less astrodynamics ;o) You could well be right.

I guess the important question is - do the orbital parameters of M5c, or indeed any other body, allow us to match the map to a body?
 
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Well, this is only mildly concerning...has this been done before? I layered the stellar field of Orion with the bubble, with the reversed line from the diagram :/


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If only we had a clearer display of the glyphs to the left of the main circle, and to the right. Maybe it's all noise but I can't help but feel there is more to discover there that may help our understanding of the central bit.

Someone asked about 3d spectral somethings. Software is available online and you can get fully functional ones, albeit with a timed trail. 21 days should be enough for someone. Not me, I don't have a scoobie.

PS hunting for probes is probably the most madding thing I've yet to undertake in ED.

I still think those glyphs in the left part are a song that can be played in a sequencer-like fashion.
Perhaps just some kind of easter-egg. After all the Golden disk on the Voyager was fillen with any kind of music from our specie (Mozart, Behethoven...)

If someone with a bitmap to sound plugin could extract/cut that part and let it play like this guy did a million posts ago, BUT WITHOUT STRETCHING THE IMAGE, it could be nice ;)

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ad-7-The-Canonn/page459?p=4256785#post4256785
 
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OK, i knew that everyone on merope got the strange all in the same inst... but this freaked me out... i can target another guy in an SRV at 1.4Mm
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ive got it !!

the UP shows where Merope 5C currently is (the long line that goes to the center, Center being the star it orbits and the 2 other lines point to the other 2 planets near Merope 5C)
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First of all: If have read the first side (over and over again)

So I know

- There are not unlimited amounts of UPs to play with
- You brave fellows tests it nearby the Barnies
- The voices in my head are real...but only for me. The rest don't hear them (see above)

But... Is there a way to drop an UP INSIDE the center of the Barnie(mom)?

The voices say, it wants to show us something
 
Originally Posted by Colonel Kenney (Source)
So that means the information in the UP about the planet in the sound is NOT merope it is from a nearby planet probably in the UA range.

Its just the wording the U P is the PROBE which is something you'd think would be the thing looking since its a probe.. the artifact who knows what it is. Maybe it is the more advanced of the 2?

This seems like it should be a worthwhile pursuit? See if the image we've been sent fits in some way to any planets in the UA shell (which is huge *sigh*). Maybe start with a preliminary, easy test?. And the UP i'd say is definitely more advanced: it needed input to send its message to us (the honk) and the message is much more complex than morse-ing a wireframe of the ship it was scanning, and the emp-like affect.

Michael might not be saying it's a correct or good theory, but it is something we can test. And because he responded to it I'm more likely to think it's an ever so slight nudge of "try this".

P.S. Rizal72, you have brass ones to try to run and maintain this thread. Or more patience and understanding than I can muster!


Reposting to not forget that one.

Testing?




UA scans surrounding -- well your ship. Getting input data.
UP might be collecting data and for some reason it points towards Merope 5c and it is more like.. relay? Something to send data from UAs back- where?
-Merope 5c origin of Thargoid invasion in 3050
 
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Could the four quadrants on the circle denote 4 types/process for exploring planets?

Top Right - Scanning from space
Top Left - Oribtal cruise
Bottom left - Area on ground, POI
Bottom right - Ground traversal
 
An EGG. Merope is an EGG. It will hatch (rip open) SOON.

Merope is an EGG. It's so clear, why haven't you figured it out yet? Take a look at the decoded transmission.

http://imgur.com/a/MWeKv

Others have translated the symbols on the four corners.

Bottom-Right = 1
Top Left = 2
Top Right = 3
Bottom Left = 4

Treat the numbers as referring only to each quadrant of the circle in the center. 1 refers to the bottom right quadrant. 2 to the top left. 3 to the top right. 4 to the bottom left.

Now treat the numbers as chronological, as marking out a sequence of events (1 = oldest, 2 = newest, 3 = current, 4 = future)

Finally, treat the circle as being a planet and the meaning of the transmission becomes perfectly clear and obvious.


  1. Long ago (earlier Elite galaxy): Something (let's call it a Thargoid) burrowed into the center of Merope.
  2. A while back (but sooner): Thargoids grew and spread inside the inside of the planet or rested within its shell.
  3. Now: Thargoids are getting scanned from above the surface of the planet. Wakes it/them up.
  4. Future: Planet splits open. Egg hatches. Thargoids come out.

Random Thoughts:
* Perhaps Jacques is where they need to go. Perhaps the race is calling them home. Actually I know nothing about Jacques so who knows, but would be a fun way to resolve a war. We're getting practice now in the whole "go to Jacques" community goal.
* The Federation perhaps knows there's something inside planet. It's testing.
* The Probe knows that the brood mother was lost somewhere, it's searching for the children.
* Thargoids are similar to praying mantis's.

From the Praying Mantis wiki: "In cooler climates, the adults lay eggs in autumn then die. The eggs are protected by their hard capsules and hatch in the spring."

We do know a little bit about Thargoid reproduction:

From the Thargoid Wiki: "No notable reproductive organs have been found in specimens, leading scientists to theorise that there must be a separate **phenotype** of Thargoid that is responsible for the reproductive act."

We're going to meet the phenotype. We'll probably kill a lot of their babies.

Should we stop and think?

TLDR; The 'numbers' in the four corners map out a sequence events, the nesting of Thargoids within Merope, their hatching and destructive exodus. The probes are looking for a lost brood-mother.


**CMDR Jaffar Ali** (I think that's my name, something like it, I don't play enough to remember...)


Disclaimer: Ok, maybe it isn't that obvious, well ok maybe it's completely uncertain, but it's an interesting theory isn't it?*
 
Repped & I applaud your attempt, but this just confirms to me that the grid is cartesian overlaid onto a circular feature & distorted to show that the feature is convex or concave. We have found no domes on 5C so it must be a crater. Quite likely the largest crater which is the major landmark. The radial line is then a bearing from the major axis intersection nearest the centre of the crater. It would be interesting to map the crater & see if the "central" peak is appropriately offset to align with that intersection.


Except if you laid the grid into a crater, as you say, the longitude lines would curve in the other direction AND, there would be distortion on the X and Y axes. I've shown there's only distortion on the Y axis.
 
Hi everyone.

Just wish to share my opinion. I guess this message is a key to a lock yet to be implemented in the game. I hope i'm wrong, but i'm afraid the next big finding will not come before the next patch. Again, i hope i'm wrong. You guys are amazing! Keep up the good (scientific) work! And rizal72, congrats on your discovery.
 
given that UAs are found in a shell 135-150LY around Merope, that would imply they were launch from everywhere outside of that range.

It makes much more sense that they either came from Merope, or that they came from some other, unknown (omg it works on so many levels!), place and they somehow dropped into these systems and stayed there to mark Merope in some way.

I've long been a proponent of the idea that they came from Merope. Which could of course be wrong - they might simply have been stationed there.

But I don't think they're heading there, though - because I think they'd have got there if they're able to spread themselves across 3,800,00LY3 of space.


Does make me think, though...

Where was that first free floater found again?

HR 1185 I believe
 
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