Presumably they just arbitrarily picked the point at which it was most distany from the plane of reference?
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Presumably they just arbitrarily picked the point at which it was most distany from the plane of reference?
Home from work. Working on the path towards Palin.
Well whatever else is on Merope 5c - I'm making out like a bandit 
Just found SRV wreck with approx 50 tons of cargo - bootleg liquor, skimmer components, gallium, nerve agents etc - had to leave 15 tons or so behind - called it out , but no one came to collect
http://imgur.com/YAvF7y4
http://imgur.com/nadRjFU
http://imgur.com/HoCISzN
Just found SRV wreck with approx 50 tons of cargo - bootleg liquor, skimmer components, gallium, nerve agents etc - had to leave 15 tons or so behind - called it out , but no one came to collect
http://imgur.com/YAvF7y4
http://imgur.com/nadRjFU
http://imgur.com/HoCISzN
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Can you imagine what the reaction would be if you jettisoned "slaves", nothing happened, tried "imperial slaves" and the barnacle gobbled them right up?
Circular orbits usually just "define" the periapsis to be at the ascending node, so the argument of periapsis == 0. But yeah, it's totally arbitrary really (which could I guess be a clue if the speculation about the angle in the diagram being M5c arg-peri is correct). Seems a bit of a reach TBH, but certainly possible.
I have not checked them for Barnacles - I was only listing those worlds with surface conditions that are similar to those of known Barnacle sites.
My plan for my present trip is to investigate one or two worlds in detail (several hours of surface flying with possibly some SRV exploration each) but as I encounter more 'candidates' than I can survey, I report them here in case others are interested in searching but do not want to spend time finding candidates themselves.
Some bablings as I try to make sense of things.
Lets say you are called Paul you are out exploring the galaxy when you have problem and end up stuck in the Merope system. No way to get home what do you do.
First you set up a perimeter, trip wire system etc. This is the UAs they scan any ships that go by and report their type and position back to you, allowing you to decide wether friend or foe. This is defensive, you also need to be pro-ative in getting help so.
Second you send out the UPs in the direction of home (a bit like a message in bottle) carrying just enough information for you friends to find you.
Third you settle down for the long haul waiting to be rescued.
Over time what may have been a small shell of UAs has now expaned to be quite large. It would also explain why it may be hard find free floater UPs as they not in a shell but strung out in a long line thru the galaxy, but if found could give an indication of where Pauls home system is.
I suspect by now Paul may be dead.[noob]
Lets say you are called Paul you are out exploring the galaxy when you have problem and end up stuck in the Merope system. No way to get home what do you do.
First you set up a perimeter, trip wire system etc. This is the UAs they scan any ships that go by and report their type and position back to you, allowing you to decide wether friend or foe. This is defensive, you also need to be pro-ative in getting help so.
Second you send out the UPs in the direction of home (a bit like a message in bottle) carrying just enough information for you friends to find you.
Third you settle down for the long haul waiting to be rescued.
Over time what may have been a small shell of UAs has now expaned to be quite large. It would also explain why it may be hard find free floater UPs as they not in a shell but strung out in a long line thru the galaxy, but if found could give an indication of where Pauls home system is.
I suspect by now Paul may be dead.[noob]
Something has to describe the curved angle bewteen the ascending node and position of highest inclination? The argument of latitiude, which is what you use when descrfibing a circular orbit, I think.
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Tolkien wrote some lovely prose
The simplest/most logical hypothesis I can make out of the diagram is that it is coordinates to a location on merope 5c. Use the angles to get the coordinates, but then we would need signifiers for "latitude" and "longitude" in order to use the coordinates. These signifiers seem simple:
1. The two half circles in the upper right quadrant may be away to indicated "latitude" to other species. When viewing a globe from above, this is how latitude lines appear (parallel with different circumferences as you move through the z-axis of the planetary body).
2. The upper left quadrant then signifies "longitude", using a single long arc that intersects with the planet's poles.
Then using the binary digits to read the diagram in order, one can start at l-- using the angle as a coord for -l- (longitude). Moving clockwise to step -ll (signifying latitude), we now get the lat. coord from the angles given in step --l.
Finally an alien would need something to indicate whether the coords are + or -. Overlaying the far right section of the spectrograph with the middle portion creates an image in which the two half circles in the upper right quadrant overlap perfectly (indicating positive coords), while a new "longitude" arch over laps with the lower left quadrant ( indicating negative coords).
Im testing different coords on merope 5c now and throughout this week to see if this holds true. After all the probe points toward merope 5c.
1. The two half circles in the upper right quadrant may be away to indicated "latitude" to other species. When viewing a globe from above, this is how latitude lines appear (parallel with different circumferences as you move through the z-axis of the planetary body).
2. The upper left quadrant then signifies "longitude", using a single long arc that intersects with the planet's poles.
Then using the binary digits to read the diagram in order, one can start at l-- using the angle as a coord for -l- (longitude). Moving clockwise to step -ll (signifying latitude), we now get the lat. coord from the angles given in step --l.
Finally an alien would need something to indicate whether the coords are + or -. Overlaying the far right section of the spectrograph with the middle portion creates an image in which the two half circles in the upper right quadrant overlap perfectly (indicating positive coords), while a new "longitude" arch over laps with the lower left quadrant ( indicating negative coords).
Im testing different coords on merope 5c now and throughout this week to see if this holds true. After all the probe points toward merope 5c
.Does this story line work in solo mode aswell as open ?
Can you imagine what the reaction would be if you jettisoned "slaves", nothing happened, tried "imperial slaves" and the barnacle gobbled them right up?
Hahahaha [big grin] !
I can't stop laughing !
Just something that came to mind reading along in this thread.
There's a dialog going on about 5c not having a complete circular orbit.
There was also someone (sorry can't find the post so soon on my tablet) who points out that the circle or sphere in the image is slightly out of alignment, he showed it clearly by with different overlays.
Could the image from the UP be a projection of 5c's orbit?
There's a dialog going on about 5c not having a complete circular orbit.
There was also someone (sorry can't find the post so soon on my tablet) who points out that the circle or sphere in the image is slightly out of alignment, he showed it clearly by with different overlays.
Could the image from the UP be a projection of 5c's orbit?
The inclination is the same all along the orbit but I know what you mean - the highest point above the 0-inclination plane. It's not one of the 6 defining elements (semimajor, eccentricity, inclination, longitude of ascending node, argument of periapsis, mean anomaly). I guess it's the solstice - can't honestly say I've come across a specific term, it's not really a relevant parameter, but my astrophysics is about 15 years old at this point, and I'm mainly going off KSP and Scott Manley if I'm honest...
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The barnacle etc is certainly there in solo mode.
Sorry, I literally fell asleep mid reply - I have already edited it
When the orbit is circular you use that measurement; the argument of latitide ( I could not think of its name) in place of the argument of peri to describe the highest point of inclination/latitude.
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I believe in what you say: Merope 5c is super special.
Not brass, unfortunately. More like... Meta Alloys...
The simplest/most logical hypothesis I can make out of the diagram is that it is coordinates to a location on merope 5c. Use the angles to get the coordinates, but then we would need signifiers for "latitude" and "longitude" in order to use the coordinates. These signifiers seem simple:
1. The two half circles in the upper right quadrant may be away to indicated "latitude" to other species. When viewing a globe from above, this is how latitude lines appear (parallel with different circumferences as you move through the z-axis of the planetary body).
2. The upper left quadrant then signifies "longitude", using a single long arc that intersects with the planet's poles.
Then using the binary digits to read the diagram in order, one can start at l-- using the angle as a coord for -l- (longitude). Moving clockwise to step -ll (signifying latitude), we now get the lat. coord from the angles given in step --l.
Finally an alien would need something to indicate whether the coords are + or -. Overlaying the far right section of the spectrograph with the middle portion creates an image in which the two half circles in the upper right quadrant overlap perfectly (indicating positive coords), while a new "longitude" arch over laps with the lower left quadrant ( indicating negative coords).
Im testing different coords on merope 5c now and throughout this week to see if this holds true. After all the probe points toward merope 5c
I like your point, at least the preamble:
so the upper part is to define what informations are given in the lower part, nice.
But then, why the longitude needs two outer lines, so many angles, and the latitude only one line, then two angles. And why they are differently drawn?
With outer lines the first, and inner line the second?
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If only we had a clearer display of the glyphs to the left of the main circle, and to the right. Maybe it's all noise but I can't help but feel there is more to discover there that may help our understanding of the central bit.
Someone asked about 3d spectral somethings. Software is available online and you can get fully functional ones, albeit with a timed trail. 21 days should be enough for someone. Not me, I don't have a scoobie.
PS hunting for probes is probably the most madding thing I've yet to undertake in ED.
Someone asked about 3d spectral somethings. Software is available online and you can get fully functional ones, albeit with a timed trail. 21 days should be enough for someone. Not me, I don't have a scoobie.
PS hunting for probes is probably the most madding thing I've yet to undertake in ED.
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