UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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xcyber

xcyber
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Putting on my story hat for a moment the sharp eyed amongst you have noticed a story in GalNet about ‘The Missing’. In brief The Missing is an encompassing term for everyone who has disappeared without trace in deep space. This includes colonists on the ancient generation ships, lost colonies, disappeared scientific expeditions and a host of others. Some will know from our timeline that many thousands of ‘generation ships’ left the safety of Earth beginning in the 24th century onwards, and headed out into what was then largely unknown – with just some data from probes to guide them. The process was completely unregulated, and many were not as well prepared as they should have been. In those days when faster-than-light communication didn’t exist, many of these potential settlers faced terrible risks alone, travelling thousands of light years into the black, not unlike the wagon trains that set out across continental US in the 18th and 19th centuries before them. Not all were successful at founding new worlds. Most were not. Some managed to return with tails of their adventures. Some were lost in deep space, the dead hulk of their ship carrying on an almost endless trajectory ever deeper into space. Others managed to land and survived for many decades before being overtaken by some local disaster. Some may still be alive, just restricted to low power light speed communications, or no comms at all, as their equipment has failed over the centuries in between. We say they have disappeared without trace, but just maybe some will find some traces of them that are still out there…

The plight of The Missing is just one of the things that will become more prominent over the coming year and the Commanders of the Pilots Federation will be pivotal in solving these mysteries. You can expect more news on this soon!

Thanks

Michael"

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MadDogMurdock

MadDogMurdock
Ninjahat said:
I stand my ground since devs have said that UPs should be easier to attain. I believe my postulate is valid enough to test. I am in ET though.

Convoys going in circles doesn't mean that they can't have been doing orbital testing near landable planets and crashed.

MB's statement about UA/UP being space related also included that something might be surface related (not quoted correctly).
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I've been wondering if the 'easy way' is to honk the convoy.
Probably been tried though.
 

CMDR Davanix

CMDR Davanix
mach10 said:
If you are directing someone to a location on Earth, you would use continents. If you were directing someone to a location on Mars, you would use Olympus Mons. If you were directing someone to a point on a moon, you would use its largest feature. It is significant since the probe is pointing back to Merope 5C.
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But what if they aint pointing us anywhere? if there is something they are hunting on that planet they already know its there and have no need to point to a crater when they are already directed to the planet.

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TomS said:
perhaps Merope 5c is on some kind of lay line. where else did we find barnacles? is there any nebula between them?
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Hind nebula is nearly directly triangulated in the middle of all 3 nebulas although nothing of interest is there after my 17 hours of searching 2 weeks ago
 

Raisa

Raisa
Davanix said:
Also i dont think the crater has anything to do with it alot of planets have craters bigger than this and inside the bubble alone
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like this? ;)
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Allant Doran

Allant Doran
Davanix said:
But what if they aint pointing us anywhere?
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Well, we can't know that yet. All we know is that they ARE pointing at 5c and on 5c is a gigantic crater. Not unique in all of space but unique on 5c. It is therefor fair to assume that it is an important location of note until we figure out otherwise.

Science is running with your best idea until it is proven wrong by the forces of the universe. If we find proof that the crater is pointless then we will abandon it. ''What If...''s are not going to sway people alone.
 

CMDR Davanix

CMDR Davanix
Allant Doran said:
Well, we can't know that yet. All we know is that they ARE pointing at 5c and on 5c is a gigantic crater. Not unique in all of space but unique on 5c. It is therefor fair to assume that it is an important location of note until we figure out otherwise.

Science is running with your best idea until it is proven wrong by the forces of the universe. If we find proof that the crater is pointless then we will abandon it. ''What If...''s are not going to sway people alone.
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Problem is i think by asuming the crater being the biggest point on that planet is of importance i personally think thats whats slowing progress. Most people go there straight away forcing the rest of the planet to be unscratched by most. Also the fact that i dont think the mystery so far is planet side as they arnt leaving the 1.6 out of solving the mystery (Yes i know barnys are planetside however they contain meta which you can also acquire through convoys)
 

Zatoichie

Z
doing some testing with the UA since the update.
1. UA still points towards Merope. (Even in system. does not point to 5C when in 5C low orbit)
2. No apparent images on specto in space and on surface (tested near barnicles and in large crater)
3. UA not losing health on surface

Edit: may be an audio bug but i have noticed my wave scanner getting louder when it does its usual "whale noise"
 
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mach10

M
xcyber said:
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Putting on my story hat for a moment the sharp eyed amongst you have noticed a story in GalNet about ‘The Missing’. In brief The Missing is an encompassing term for everyone who has disappeared without trace in deep space. This includes colonists on the ancient generation ships, lost colonies, disappeared scientific expeditions and a host of others. Some will know from our timeline that many thousands of ‘generation ships’ left the safety of Earth beginning in the 24th century onwards, and headed out into what was then largely unknown – with just some data from probes to guide them. The process was completely unregulated, and many were not as well prepared as they should have been. In those days when faster-than-light communication didn’t exist, many of these potential settlers faced terrible risks alone, travelling thousands of light years into the black, not unlike the wagon trains that set out across continental US in the 18th and 19th centuries before them. Not all were successful at founding new worlds. Most were not. Some managed to return with tails of their adventures. Some were lost in deep space, the dead hulk of their ship carrying on an almost endless trajectory ever deeper into space. Others managed to land and survived for many decades before being overtaken by some local disaster. Some may still be alive, just restricted to low power light speed communications, or no comms at all, as their equipment has failed over the centuries in between. We say they have disappeared without trace, but just maybe some will find some traces of them that are still out there…

The plight of The Missing is just one of the things that will become more prominent over the coming year and the Commanders of the Pilots Federation will be pivotal in solving these mysteries. You can expect more news on this soon!

Thanks

Michael"

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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/209834-Dev-Update-(10-12-2015)?p=3228483#post3228483
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Oh, I am so going with my solution with this post from MB. It is also a testable theory that can be proved or disproved rather easily.

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Please let me clarify my statement.. My iteration of OUR solution. To whoever does find the soluttion, it wasn't solo.
 
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Sterlino

Sterlino
mach10 said:
Looking at the spectrograph again, the simple lined image we have created from it is deleting some important data I believe. The center of the sphere shows a smaller round object in the center (A). The verticle and horizontal lines splitting the sphere do are not directly center of the smaller object in the middle (B). This object is the large crater on Merope 5C. With this information I think the directions are:

--| Go here (line to the crater)
-|| Honk probe with ADS
-|- Look to Horizon
|-- You will see something

I've ruled out the possibility of the -|- step being an orbit, as someone has already tried to honk a probe in orbit over the crater. No result
The symbol for the horizon is strikingly similar to all references of a horizon symbol and/or reference.
When trying to find a specific point of origin from the planet, the largest surface feature sure makes for a great reference point that is easily seen from orbit.
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fascinating..

..but what if the crater is not the biggest one ?
 

Allant Doran

Allant Doran
Davanix said:
Problem is i think by asuming the crater being the biggest point on that planet is of importance i personally think thats whats slowing progress. Most people go there straight away forcing the rest of the planet to be unscratched by most. Also the fact that i dont think the mystery so far is planet side as they arnt leaving the 1.6 out of solving the mystery (Yes i know barnys are planetside however they contain meta which you can also acquire through convoys)
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As I said, if we find that the crater is useless we will abandon it. It is unfair, however, to suggest people do so just because *you* think it is slowing progress. How an individual feels about it will not sway the group. -EDIT ADDITIONAL: Unless you can provide some evidence to sway the group, of course. Not just feelings.-

You do not have to search there, others want to. It is up to them if they do or not.

I personally think the crater is important but NOT in a planetary-surface sense. I think it is an important landmark that will be needed in some kind of orientation of 5c or the Probe image at some point. I've not yet found anything definitive but I haven't been put off the idea either.
 
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Atebits

A
He has more thoughts,

He says all of a sudden joy now, "Those F-s," ... "Those (UAs) are remote probes."
I said, "Yes, we know that."
He says, "No. The Barnacles are a super computer recording all the information that is being beamed back to them." "...and you people have basically been taking a perverts camera and stuffing it in your pants." "...if you dropped a weird ball into a remote Amazon tribe they're going to pick it up and take it around and show it to everyone... and then you're going to have all these pictures. Like Pokemon go!"
... he's on a deep though now...
"...or maybe it's not a super computer, it's an archive. The UA and UP have been around a long time and these things are trying to be something like Prothean beacon. They look like Protos Nexus." ... "Why else would there be directions steering you to the barnacles in two different ways? They drew you a map saying, 'Go here,' in two different ways. Specifically back to them. One is triangulation and one is they drew you a frickin' map. Why haven't we found anyone else? We've been all over the over the place. Where is everybody?"
 

CMDR Davanix

CMDR Davanix
Allant Doran said:
As I said, if we find that the crater is useless we will abandon it. It is unfair, however, to suggest people do so just because *you* think it is slowing progress. How an individual feels about it will not sway the group. You do not have to search there, others want to. It is up to them if they do or not.

I personally think the crater is important but NOT in a planetary-surface sense. I think it is an important landmark that will be needed in some kind of orientation of 5c or the Probe image at some point. I've not yet found anything definitive but I haven't been put off the idea either.
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And again someone took what i said completely wrong xD i never said once that we should all stop looking at the crater because i said so do not make words come out of my mouth. I simply said maybe we should have a look at the planet as a whole i never said we must stop looking at the crater i simply suggested that i do not think it is an important point.

Do not say i am trying to sway people from looking there just because i added my opinion.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
mach10 said:
Looking at the spectrograph again, the simple lined image we have created from it is deleting some important data I believe. The center of the sphere shows a smaller round object in the center (A). The verticle and horizontal lines splitting the sphere do are not directly center of the smaller object in the middle (B). This object is the large crater on Merope 5C. With this information I think the directions are:

--| Go here (line to the crater)
-|| Honk probe with ADS
-|- Look to Horizon
|-- You will see something

I've ruled out the possibility of the -|- step being an orbit, as someone has already tried to honk a probe in orbit over the crater. No result
The symbol for the horizon is strikingly similar to all references of a horizon symbol and/or reference.
When trying to find a specific point of origin from the planet, the largest surface feature sure makes for a great reference point that is easily seen from orbit.
http://i.imgur.com/K0Q7KIb.gif
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I think you might have the last symbol slightly wrong. To my mind it means "and then THEY will EMERGE"
 
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