UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Layne Vakarian

Layne Vakarian
Okay then, what do we have here?
First up, this 'triplet chirps' from the UP need decoding/UP may hold key to decoding: Me Likey. Oh yes.
Second. Gypsy12. Nice 3d pictures, but only from a short segment no? What do you make (I'm not the expert here) of the 3d version of the pre, and post glyph 'sections' of the audio if anything?
Third. Guys: I like the idea that FDev have beaten us to death with our own ingenuity, re: using spectrographic analysis to extract the morse from UA audio, but if we're to start thinking that it's SO complex that now we're down to arguing the point: logarithmic/linear/whatever scaling of the audio has relevance than it's a short step from here to tail-chasing and 'see you later I'm just off down this here rabbit-hole'.
Fourth: FDev are beating us to death with our own ingenuity. But what are we missing? As in those weird pictures that were all the fashion a few years back. You know, you stared and stared and then bingo! It's a cannabis leaf. Or a surfboard. I wish I could do online forum hypnosis I do. I can almost feel that you all have the answer. maybe only a little bit each, but you have it.
Fifth. How 'bout you eschew the forums for a little while and slide over to Canonn Discord. Apparently, though I haven't tried it myself, you can now do group direct messaging. Be nice to get a few of the boffins able to sound off each other in real time. Hey! It doesn't have to be Canonn Discord either. Discord is free and you can set up your own server in less than five minutes.
No?
AH well, you guys probably know best.

o7
 

CMDR Tom D

CMDR Tom D
damajoo said:
Good evening,

so i'm following this thread(s) as good as i can. I have a question regarding a "feature" of the transmission, which is not even mentioned, or kind of "overlooked".
Maybe i missed it completely, than please excuse me !

(i did not find it on the first page either :) )

I took the following images (or crops of them) from the first page.

If you look at these two:

http://i.imgur.com/AwlGXuh.png

http://i.imgur.com/jV1a3W9.jpg

I have to ask myself, why that circular feature which is almost dead center in the picture not transfered or looked at ?

http://i.imgur.com/pahcnj9.png

http://i.imgur.com/21HN0Gu.png

http://i.imgur.com/KNn972T.jpg

Is there a particular reason for it ? And if so, which one ?

Again, if this is already kind of "dismissed" as not important, excuse me for bringing it up again, but than i would like to understand why.
Because almost every post use picture number two as a reference or starting point for visualizing a theory.

However, that circular feature is clearly there, and i'm kind of certain (as far as this is possible), that it is there for a reason.

What if "we" are thinking just too complicated ?

Maybe that picture is just a representation of our view out of the cockipt, and the "sphere" is a planet, with trajectory lines, and that circular feature (almost) in the center is a landmark, or perhaps even a crater or something ?
Yes i know, that would not solve the symbols in the corner, but perhaps the lower two symbols are just markings which act as kind of limiters like "if you fit the view in between the lines of your HUD, and line it up like this - than" .... i don't know :D

just an idea (and a question on the first part of the posting) ...
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I noticed this aswell, but i think its debatable weather its just noise or an actual feature.

Some people have been looking at the centre as the large crater on Merope 5c so unless it could be something else i think its a passable detail. Not to dismiss your post altogether :)
 

iFred

I
damajoo said:
Good evening,

so i'm following this thread(s) as good as i can. I have a question regarding a "feature" of the transmission, which is not even mentioned, or kind of "overlooked".
Maybe i missed it completely, than please excuse me !

(i did not find it on the first page either :) )

I took the following images (or crops of them) from the first page.

If you look at these two:

http://i.imgur.com/AwlGXuh.png

http://i.imgur.com/jV1a3W9.jpg

I have to ask myself, why that circular feature which is almost dead center in the picture not transfered or looked at ?

http://i.imgur.com/pahcnj9.png

http://i.imgur.com/21HN0Gu.png

http://i.imgur.com/KNn972T.jpg

Is there a particular reason for it ? And if so, which one ?

Again, if this is already kind of "dismissed" as not important, excuse me for bringing it up again, but than i would like to understand why.
Because almost every post use picture number two as a reference or starting point for visualizing a theory.

However, that circular feature is clearly there, and i'm kind of certain (as far as this is possible), that it is there for a reason.

What if "we" are thinking just too complicated ?

Maybe that picture is just a representation of our view out of the cockipt, and the "sphere" is a planet, with trajectory lines, and that circular feature (almost) in the center is a landmark, or perhaps even a crater or something ?
Yes i know, that would not solve the symbols in the corner, but perhaps the lower two symbols are just markings which act as kind of limiters like "if you fit the view in between the lines of your HUD, and line it up like this - than" .... i don't know :D

just an idea (and a question on the first part of the posting) ...
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And there´s an inner and outer circle also, like atmosphere or something.
 

damajoo

damajoo
yobrotom said:
I noticed this aswell, but i think its debatable weather its just noise or an actual feature.

Some people have been looking at the centre as the large crater on Merope 5c so unless it could be something else i think its a passable detail. Not to dismiss your post altogether :)
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Thank you, i have a really hard time, that a circle in the middle of the whole thing, could be "easily" dismissed as "noise" :eek: :S

This literally "jumps" at you, even more so, when "x marks the spot" .... (the two line separating the 4 quarters of the sphere/circle)
 

CMDR-AD

CMDR-AD
I decided to leave Merope, headed home. I was spending too much time with paper and pencil, and not having fun flying.

But then I read the new patch notes, and noticed that now the UP audio apparently has been adjusted to fit inside of 6 minutes.

Does this not indicate that the UP audio contains a message which had been previously truncated?

Makes me wonder if the UA/UP "purrs and howls" and such are actually a massively slowed down audio message. When sped back up, they may contain decipherable morse, or even contain coded graphical elements.
 

Colonel Kenney

Colonel Kenney
damajoo said:
Good evening,

so i'm following this thread(s) as good as i can. I have a question regarding a "feature" of the transmission, which is not even mentioned, or kind of "overlooked".
Maybe i missed it completely, than please excuse me !

(i did not find it on the first page either :) )

I took the following images (or crops of them) from the first page.

If you look at these two:

http://i.imgur.com/AwlGXuh.png

http://i.imgur.com/jV1a3W9.jpg

I have to ask myself, why that circular feature which is almost dead center in the picture not transfered or looked at ?

http://i.imgur.com/pahcnj9.png

http://i.imgur.com/21HN0Gu.png

http://i.imgur.com/KNn972T.jpg

Is there a particular reason for it ? And if so, which one ?

Again, if this is already kind of "dismissed" as not important, excuse me for bringing it up again, but than i would like to understand why.
Because almost every post use picture number two as a reference or starting point for visualizing a theory.

However, that circular feature is clearly there, and i'm kind of certain (as far as this is possible), that it is there for a reason.

What if "we" are thinking just too complicated ?

Maybe that picture is just a representation of our view out of the cockipt, and the "sphere" is a planet, with trajectory lines, and that circular feature (almost) in the center is a landmark, or perhaps even a crater or something ?
Yes i know, that would not solve the symbols in the corner, but perhaps the lower two symbols are just markings which act as kind of limiters like "if you fit the view in between the lines of your HUD, and line it up like this - than" .... i don't know :D

just an idea (and a question on the first part of the posting) ...
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This isn't designed to be an accurate representation or they've have done it a different way. If they need exact measurements from us I think its a bad idea to try and get people to extract accuracy from such poor quality signalling. I'm positive all these exact angles and post processing that is going on is a waste of time. It may be fun to try and find something in the noise but I think they clearly showed us what we need to see from a basic extraction of the data.
 
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Ozric

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Ozric
ilo said:
Power Play planification is done outside of the game.
BGS manipulation is planned outside of the game.
Trading maxing is done outside of the game.
For me this forum and the communication between the players is part of the game itself.
UAs and barnacles have been around and only a few cared about them.

The game will progress regardless we find something in the UP or not.
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So much this ^ You'll have to have some virtual virtual rep.

woodhouse said:
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That does not mean that we will find them. IIRC Barnacles are supposed to exist both as POIs and hand placed. We never found the POI type did we?
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Most of the ones we've found are the POI type, including the first one discovered. Just because they appear in the same place does not mean they're hand placed.

iFred said:
Well, so 1000s of players are not able to solve a puzzle within 10 days, don´t want to sum up the hours we spent. I think FD should slowly jump in and place a tip ortwo into the forums or better, into the galnet news. Theres only a small edge between enhusiastic playing and total frustration now.

That´s my opinion of course.
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I know it's just your opinion but, once again, this has been going on for over a year.


Colonel Kenney said:
Exactly.. this is far too much work and complexity for this "game". A great way to alienate 80% of your gamers is to do this.
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For 1 part of this game. See my post on the last page and ilo's quote at the top of this post, I can't be bothered to write it all again :)
 

Raisa

Raisa
reminder that using "me" and "i" is rather silly when talking about a multiplayer game.

Forums are for discussioin and information. They are not part of the game!

the only thing that people will find out regarding UP is what does it do, not what can we do to get another part of a tease.

Both sides of this argument are right and wrong at the same time and if anyone really wants to talk about ays and nays about the game, do make a thread and discuss it without resorting to be a manchild
 

Layne Vakarian

Layne Vakarian
Colonel Kenney said:
Exactly.. this is far too much work and complexity for this "game". A great way to alienate 80% of your gamers is to do this.
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Right. I guess this is where I get 'censured' again. I've had about as much as I can stomach from you. If you don't have anything worthwhile to say, kindly say nothing at all. This thread didn't reach version 8 because a whole bunch of us are 'alienated'. And who exactly are you anyway? I don't recall seeing you around much in version 1 of this thread. Or version 2, or...you get the picture. It's pretty lame to be hating on this 'puzzle' when you've only been here two minutes.
Enough.

Sure I could 'ignore' you. Then I would spend half my time wondering what contributor x or y was referring to so no.
Contribute (you do know what that means right?) Or shut the heck up.
Thank you.
 

Darth Ender

D
Colonel Kenney said:
Exactly.. this is far too much work and complexity for this "game". A great way to alienate 80% of your gamers is to do this.
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you dont need to do this. uncovering mysteries and clues is done inside the game through missions, stumbling upon something or triggering events, catching local galnet articles.... Nothing integral to the game will be discovered through the effort like what is going on with the hiding of images in audio. That's just extra fun stuff.
 

Zatoichie

Z
damajoo said:
Good evening,

so i'm following this thread(s) as good as i can. I have a question regarding a "feature" of the transmission, which is not even mentioned, or kind of "overlooked".
Maybe i missed it completely, than please excuse me !

(i did not find it on the first page either :) )

I took the following images (or crops of them) from the first page.

If you look at these two:

http://i.imgur.com/AwlGXuh.png

http://i.imgur.com/jV1a3W9.jpg

I have to ask myself, why that circular feature which is almost dead center in the picture not transfered or looked at ?

http://i.imgur.com/pahcnj9.png

http://i.imgur.com/21HN0Gu.png

http://i.imgur.com/KNn972T.jpg

Is there a particular reason for it ? And if so, which one ?

Again, if this is already kind of "dismissed" as not important, excuse me for bringing it up again, but than i would like to understand why.
Because almost every post use picture number two as a reference or starting point for visualizing a theory.

However, that circular feature is clearly there, and i'm kind of certain (as far as this is possible), that it is there for a reason.

What if "we" are thinking just too complicated ?

Maybe that picture is just a representation of our view out of the cockipt, and the "sphere" is a planet, with trajectory lines, and that circular feature (almost) in the center is a landmark, or perhaps even a crater or something ?
Yes i know, that would not solve the symbols in the corner, but perhaps the lower two symbols are just markings which act as kind of limiters like "if you fit the view in between the lines of your HUD, and line it up like this - than" .... i don't know :D

just an idea (and a question on the first part of the posting) ...
Click to expand...

yea thats another one of my theories is that the circle is just the hud.
Step. 1 - scan the UP get the coordinates
Step. 2 - Wake Scan?
Step. 3 - charge up the friendship drive and go see some thargoids
 

iFred

I
Silent Pact said:
Right. I guess this is where I get 'censured' again. I've had about as much as I can stomach from you. If you don't have anything worthwhile to say, kindly say nothing at all. This thread didn't reach version 8 because a whole bunch of us are 'alienated'. And who exactly are you anyway? I don't recall seeing you around much in version 1 of this thread. Or version 2, or...you get the picture. It's pretty lame to be hating on this 'puzzle' when you've only been here two minutes.
Enough.

Sure I could 'ignore' you. Then I would spend half my time wondering what contributor x or y was referring to so no.
Contribute (you do know what that means right?) Or shut the heck up.
Thank you.
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Time to take a deep breathe, dude.
 

damajoo

damajoo
babypowder84 said:
yea thats another one of my theories is that the circle is just the hud.
Step. 1 - scan the UP get the coordinates
Step. 2 - Wake Scan?
Step. 3 - charge up the friendship drive and go see some thargoids
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sorry, if i missunderstand you, but i don't think it is the HUD as it is, but the VIEW out of our canopy (through the HUD)
 

CMDR-AD

CMDR-AD
Hahah, well I took some UA purr audio and sped it up 400%... It's a horn playing, like a tuba!

Plays a little melodic tune like 5 or 6 notes long.
 

Colonel Kenney

Colonel Kenney
Darth Ender said:
you dont need to do this. uncovering mysteries and clues is done inside the game through missions, stumbling upon something or triggering events, catching local galnet articles.... Nothing integral to the game will be discovered through the effort like what is going on with the hiding of images in audio. That's just extra fun stuff.
Click to expand...

Exactly ... and if they DID make the answer that deep into a bunch of nonsense so that only people from JPL could figure this out it would show how out of touch they are with their fans.. Oh wait..
 
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