UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Colonel Kenney

Colonel Kenney
My reasoning is that for it to be solved it must start broad and narrow down

Top left = Star designation, number .. something
Top Right = Planet designation, description is that it has rings
Bottom Left = the broader area to search, quadrant
Bottom Right = the distance or specific coords to triangulate the exact location.

This would make sense and would be logical so anyone could locate this position if they had the right "honk" data from the system.

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Sterlino said:
ok i am in elephant nebula but... where is the elephant ? :p
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Its been in the room for a long time now.
 

[VR] Frank_G

[VR] Frank_G
Gypsy12 said:
This is interesting. I flew directly up to 357km above M5C directly opposite Merope 5 from the surface.. The planets horizon lies at around 30-35 degrees when at this position. Coincidence? Try it yourselves.

Perhaps its not us that are meant to find whatever is there but the UP? By inserting it into a Geosync Orbit? After all, this one has no thrusters as opposed to the UA (If they are thrusters at all)

Anyone with a UP want to try that? Cant hurt...
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Exactly what @Entomogant and i meant. The icon in the top right displays what to do... Position your ship... drop the UP... dont get in its way (stay behind it - above in orbit)... activate it by using the discovery scanner. However it will not only be the geostationary orbit - the diagram shows us where in the orbit the UP should be taken...

A geostationary orbit is always aligned with the equator (latitude 0°) and always at a fixed distance (357 km in this case), so the object in orbit can stay exactly at its position, relative to the surface... so looking at the diagram, we should be 90° (longitude) off to either the prograde or retrograde side of the orbit (right in the middle of the two markers on the lower left of the globe diagram)

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[edit again] The term geosynchronous in our original thesis was not correct (meaning the orbit takes exactly 1 planetary day). It should read geostationary - positioned above a fixed geographic point on the planet.
 
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nosscar

nosscar
I think we may need to go back to basics here and not over complicate the clues, and the best clues so far from MB are these 3 (in my opinion)
MB stated:
Michael Brookes said:
The message has a specific purpose, and a very different one to the UA.

Michael
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Michael Brookes said:
THe pointing is deliberate, but also for a different reason to the UA.

Michael
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Michael Brookes said:
The transmission from the UA is its purpose.

Michael
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Both the UA & UP deliver a transmission, but for a different purpose.
Both the UA & the UP point towards something, one at Merope, one at Merope 5c, but again for a different purpose.
The reason the UP is here, because of the UA transmission, which was just a wire frame drawing of the ship in morse code. Why is the UP here because of this message, and what is it's purpose.

So maybe we should concentrate on this, what could the symbol have to do with the UA's original message.
If we could get inside the devs heads, try and speculate where the story is going, and how the image from the UP could play a part, if we can figue this out, we can maybe better understand the image message, and the reason for it.
 

Frambitam

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Frank_G said:
Exactly what @Entomogant and i meant. The icon in the top right displays what to do... Position your ship... drop the UP... dont get in its way (below it)... activate it by using the discovery scanner. However it will not only be the geosynchronus orbit - the diagram shows us where in the orbit the UP should be taken...

A geosynchronus orbit is always aligned with the equator (latitude 0°) and always at a fixed distance (357 km in this case), so the object in orbit can stay exactly at its position, relative to the surface... so looking at the diagram, we should be 45° (longitude) off to either the prograde or retrograde side of the orbit (right in the middle of the two markers on the lower left of the globe diagram)
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I like the work you have put into your theory, but I feel like I have to point out that finding a geostationary/geosynchronous orbit isn't as simple as scaling the orbital radius by mass as you say you have done. I will find what the geostationary orbit altitude of Merope 5c should be given its stats, but since its rotational period is 6.6 days there's a good chance that, like our moon, geostationary orbit wouldn't actually be achievable because the orbit required is so high that other bodies (i.e. Earth in the case of the moon) become the dominant gravitational agent.
 

crushdepth

C
Re. the various "map" theories (including my own) about how to extract coordinates or directions from the image in the recording: If it's a map or direction finder of some kind, it is absolutely useless to us unless we can establish a point or frame of reference.
 

iFred

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crushdepth said:
Re. the various "map" theories (including my own) about how to extract coordinates or directions from the image in the recording: If it's a map or direction finder of some kind, it is absolutely useless to us unless we can establish a point or frame of reference.
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10/10. Exactly.
 

TehnoMag

TehnoMag
Hello again. TehnoMag here.

We have noticed about interesting thing. No Text. Just two images

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if we manipulate with it. We have this:

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and finaly this, witch fully assigned to the signal image:

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It is broken. But if we fix them, we have something like this:

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TehnoMag out.
 
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SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
Jorki Rasalas said:
Somebody reported finding one (two? I'm getting threadnaughtitis- the days are becoming lost in a sea of irrelevant posts & I'm losing all track of reality; wait, it's my birthday today! Ok, its just old age then...) in the last day or two. I posted to ask if anyone had editing rights to keep the front page up to date in Riz's absence. Got no response.
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I think it was Panpiper who found one. I spent a couple of hours searching there after the article was published too, but I don't have the patience for lengthy barnacle searches and had to move elsewhere for the sake of sanity.

HIP 17225 1A has absolutely vast discolored areas too. There are two massive craters close together (both with some discolored canyons). I think it was found in one of these, and I think I was searching the other crater (with more obvious discolored areas).
 

nilreb

nilreb
"10+ Barnicle sites" @ HIP 17225

Jmanis said:
Cool, thanks!
So basically, yeah, we seem to have been thrown a bone, as the discovery was after the galnet article. Intriguing...
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Jmanis said:
Hold up a minute. Galnet. This: https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/579a1ec59657ba905359897c
Barnacle Spreadsheet has no barnacles listed in HIP 17225, let alone HIP 17225 A 1. I know that doesn't mean nobody has found them there before, but at least there's no easily public info about that.

Did we just get thrown a bone?
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We get!
CMDR OZRIC has posted here with full quote but without the source link. It is easy to oversee interesting things here these days ...
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/276794-Probable-mistake-in-CG-text?highlight=HIP+17225

Also it gives a simple (expected) reason why the Cap ships are there (in fact from a DEV via QA).
For Frontier plans simple far to low CMDR was able to find Barnacles, even with coordinates ...

We salute you!
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Again posting CMDR prefer to go in forum sleep modus and work harder to get donations for a power grid @ Founders world
 
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