UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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I am positive it was an Unknown Probe, found in an ''Anomaly Detected SS [Threat 4]'' in system HIP 14479, close to Merope. I found it while roaming around planets 1 and 2. Nothing spawned when I was off the system plane so my guess is they spawn around the planets or in between.

I will sign myself up for Canonn research and help if I can, I'd love to take part in any experiments [praise]

Thanks for the information commander, but please be absolutely certain that it was a UP and not a UA. As mentioned, check out a few pics and just to be sure. The UP has two round ends whereas the UA only has the one. The front page of the thread should have plenty if pics to gander at :)
 
I found out that the UP message
is a secret engineer blueprint:eek:

As an engineer, I of course had to try to follow the instructions.

I started by drawing a 135° angle, like on the Blueprint.

Then according to point two, I made a 90° rotated copy.

Point three seemingly described a smaller(or bigger?) copy of my current drawing, inside it. I made this:

Finally, I mirrored the drawing and added the connecting lines for each quadrant like it's described in point four.


The problem is that I have no idea what this is. A slightly odd biscuit is most likely, but it could also be some kind of focusing crystal?

Please help. :D

Hmm... A cookie, maybe?
:p
 
I found out that the UP message
is a secret engineer blueprint:eek:

As an engineer, I of course had to try to follow the instructions.

I started by drawing a 135° angle, like on the Blueprint.

Then according to point two, I made a 90° rotated copy.

Point three seemingly described a smaller(or bigger?) copy of my current drawing, inside it. I made this:

Finally, I mirrored the drawing and added the connecting lines for each quadrant like it's described in point four.


The problem is that I have no idea what this is. A slightly odd biscuit is most likely, but it could also be some kind of focusing crystal?

Please help. :D
I say we build the biscuit. Then worship it as a god. Then the aliens will come to us but we wont care, we have the biscuit. All hail the biscuit.

Edit: Damn I need to rest my biscuit er I mean brain.
 
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Anomaly Detected SS [Threat 4] as far as we know provides UA.
We do expect to find UP some day in them as well.

If it didn't shut down your ship when you used the ADS is rather unexpected when we talk about the UP.
Such behaviour where nothing happens is expected from an UA though.

It's the system here that matters - very easy for a few of us to get over there and fly around looking for USSs.

I'm not in front of a galaxy map at the moment - where is this system in relation to Merope?
 
This is very much an "I'm tired and I don't care" post, but it still may contain something useful.

http://imgur.com/a/mGQyo

Read Here First!
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Because I'm tired I didn't realize I wasn't copying the seconds from Audacity into the imagery. So... take my word on it. It's all 20 second intervals.

What is this?

I was about to fly out of Jaques Station when I thought, "Oh hey, maybe our radio tower here is now some how getting weird messages since the station had UAs on it?" To which I thought, "You are suffering heat damage. Remove the tin foil from your head and go to bed." The next thought I had was... "And if there was something and you persisted to ignore it for months? How dumb would you feel? This is three minutes of your time... literally because at 4 the station is going to shoot you." So... I backed up beside the tower and hit record.

P.S.
There's no sound at all in the Hangars that make anything of note except the lines you can see between 1:22.0 and 1:26.0 on the Beginning of Audio section.

Also, to read this go left to right, left first top to bottom, right second top to bottom.

Again, sorry, brain dead.
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" This is what your brain on tin foil looks like..."

We've been discussing a bit earlier on.
I've been doing some 10 minutes recordings from misc stations.
There has been some people collecting some of the symbols/glyphs - but I haven't seen a specific ordering yet.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=4286008
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=4286344
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...8-The-Canonn?p=4286883&viewfull=1#post4286883
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...8-The-Canonn?p=4286892&viewfull=1#post4286892
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...8-The-Canonn?p=4287645&viewfull=1#post4287645

.. and then some more misc posts after this.
 
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It's the system here that matters - very easy for a few of us to get over there and fly around looking for USSs.

I'm not in front of a galaxy map at the moment - where is this system in relation to Merope?

Neither am I but based on the coordinates compared to Merope, I'm going to bet it's in the shell which would be another clue that the poster found a UA.

HIP 14479: https://eddb.io/system/52373
Merope: https://eddb.io/system/21120
 
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I found out that the UP message
is a secret engineer blueprint:eek:

As an engineer, I of course had to try to follow the instructions.

I started by drawing a 135° angle, like on the Blueprint.

Then according to point two, I made a 90° rotated copy.

Point three seemingly described a smaller(or bigger?) copy of my current drawing, inside it. I made this:

Finally, I mirrored the drawing and added the connecting lines for each quadrant like it's described in point four.


The problem is that I have no idea what this is. A slightly odd biscuit is most likely, but it could also be some kind of focusing crystal?

Please help. :D

If your not yanking our chains. This looks oddly like the old thargoid ships shape
 
Thanks for the information commander, but please be absolutely certain that it was a UP and not a UA. As mentioned, check out a few pics and just to be sure. The UP has two round ends whereas the UA only has the one. The front page of the thread should have plenty if pics to gander at :)

I am positive it was an Unknown Probe, found in an ''Anomaly Detected SS [Threat 4]'' in system HIP 14479, close to Merope. I found it while roaming around planets 1 and 2. Nothing spawned when I was off the system plane so my guess is they spawn around the planets or in between.

I will sign myself up for Canonn research and help if I can, I'd love to take part in any experiments [praise]

It's the system here that matters - very easy for a few of us to get over there and fly around looking for USSs.

I'm not in front of a galaxy map at the moment - where is this system in relation to Merope?

Neither am I but based on the coordinates compared to Merope, I'm going to bet it's in the shell which would be another clue that the poster found a UA.

HIP 14479: https://eddb.io/system/52373
Merope: https://eddb.io/system/21120

Ah my bad I didn't notice.
HIP 14479 - yes, it's the system where I normally hoard my UA's. I have it bookmarked for hoarding. :)
It's the UA-shell.

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If your not yanking our chains. This looks oddly like the old thargoid ships shape

Shhhh, don't tell anyone. It's a secret!
 
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I'm not in front of a galaxy map at the moment - where is this system in relation to Merope?
HIP 14479 where I found the signal source is within 150 LY range of Merope if not a little over it. Hmmm now I am starting to doubt myself about the Probe though, maybe it was an artifact after all. I did shoot it to get some fragments out of it before I logged off so there is no way I can check :D but I will log on in a few hours to search for more. Has anyone else noticed the strange sound effects around the Pleiades nebula I mentioned earlier? I just want to know if its only in my head:

I had a strange thought yesterday that probably isnt worth anything but I just thought I should share with you just incase it is worth anything. I was working on my way towards Professor Palin and inevitably the route led me to Merope. As I approached Pleiades Nebula I dropped out of supercruise to have a smoke break then I noticed strange sounds out in the middle of nowhere. When I turned off my thrusters and sensors, I could hear it much clearer, strange sound effects. They were quite low so I had to turn up the volume a bit. I am pretty sure I had never heard of these sound effects anywhere in the galaxy before but close to Pleiades Nebula. I did not record it but no matter as I jumped to Merope and other systems in and around the Nebula, I could hear these strange sounds anywhere in space.
 
HIP 14479 where I found the signal source is within 150 LY range of Merope if not a little over it. Hmmm now I am starting to doubt myself about the Probe though, maybe it was an artifact after all. I did shoot it to get some fragments out of it before I logged off so there is no way I can check :D but I will log on in a few hours to search for more. Has anyone else noticed the strange sound effects around the Pleiades nebula I mentioned earlier? I just want to know if its only in my head:

UA. See above :)
EDIT: It could would mean the UP actually spawns in the same system as the UA, but we need a bit more to go on. :)
 
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HIP 14479 where I found the signal source is within 150 LY range of Merope if not a little over it. Hmmm now I am starting to doubt myself about the Probe though, maybe it was an artifact after all. I did shoot it to get some fragments out of it before I logged off so there is no way I can check :D but I will log on in a few hours to search for more. Has anyone else noticed the strange sound effects around the Pleiades nebula I mentioned earlier? I just want to know if its only in my head:
If it gave fragments, then I believe it is an artefact as we haven't have any evidence that probes give fragments when destroyed, mainly because we don't have enough to just go destroying them but nevertheless as it stands right now, they don't give fragments :)
 
Hello all. I have had a look at the "howls" performed by the probe. Here is a rough transcription of the two sequences:

http://ed.gyt.se/pics/up-notes.png

(The above is just used as an illustration and approximate in several aspects. Don't rely on it for exact data.)

The e flats are, as noted on the picture, very flat. To us who are used to listening to equal tempered music, the probes are singing way out of tune.

Did they get the blues? Probably not. But these false tones make sense if part of an overtone (or natural harmonics) series. The nature of the overtones of a certain fundamental tone, is such that their frequencies are multiples of the frequency of the fundamental tone. For example, to produce the overtone series of the concert A, 440 Hz, just multiply 440 with 2 for the first overtone, with 3 for the second overtone, with 4 for the third overtone, and so on.

As for the howls of the probe, the fundamental tone is not your standard concert A though. Incidentally, it is instead a much lower concert A, at 110 Hz. (At least I'd say it is much closer to 110 Hz than it is to 109 or 111 Hz.)

In other words, the song of the unknown probe is performed on multiples of 110 Hz.

The "A" sequence, which in my transcription above consists of 6 tones, is as follows:
  • The first tone, g, is the 13th overtone of 110 Hz and has a frequency of 1540 Hz
  • 2nd tone, a, 15th overtone, 1760 Hz
  • 3rd tone, e, 11th overtone,1320 Hz
  • 4th tone, e flat, 10th overtone, 1210 Hz
  • 5th tone, another g
  • 6th tone, E, 5th overtone, 660 Hz
And the "B" sequence:
  • 1st tone, low E, 2nd overtone, 330 Hz
  • 2nd tone, E, 5th overtone, 660 Hz
  • 3rd tone, e, 11th overtone, 1320 Hz
  • 4th tone, a, 15th overtone, 1760 Hz
  • 5th tone, g, 13th overtone, 1540 Hz
  • 6th tone, e flat, 10th overtone, 1210 Hz
  • 7th tone, another g
  • 8th tone, another e flat
  • 9th tone, b, 18th overtone, 2090 Hz
The fact that the e flat is so incredibly "out of tune" fits it's role as the the 10th overtone perfectly, since the 10th overtone will always be much lower than it's closest equivalent on an equal tempered chromatic scale. (An "in tune" e flat here would have had a frequency of 1244.5 Hz, while the one in the actual howl is 1210 Hz.)

That's all. I don't have any fun theories to match these numbers. So, the howls in their entirety seem to have a common fundamental tone of 110 Hz. Whether this frequency is of any significance, I do not know. (What I can say, however, is that 110 Hz is the same frequency as that of the 5th guitar string, which suggests a slightly more boring explanation.)

Might not mean anything (who knows beside FD right now ?) but repped for the strict analysis of data gathered from experiment.
Also for producing and presenting data in a neutral manner not trying to fit it into any theories when the author have none.

Scientific, analytic, methodic, humble and awesome out-of-the-box work done here, and i love the unusual angle of it.
That's the way it's done, please accept this sciencey cookie [heart]

*now back to catching up*
 
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Have we tried honking a UP in the presence of a free floating UA in the shell?

I'm thinking:

..| (1) could describe the inner radius of the shell. Angle shows the distance.

.|. (2) shows outer limit of shell

.|| (3) says to make the UP transmit in the shell

|.. (4) says that it will disrupt the shell.

(It may be that disrupting the shell is a bad idea)
 
If it gave fragments, then I believe it is an artefact as we haven't have any evidence that probes give fragments when destroyed, mainly because we don't have enough to just go destroying them but nevertheless as it stands right now, they don't give fragments :)

Which makes sense because the fragments look exactly like the canisters from the tail of a UA.
 
Which if I'm recalling right was the 'testable theory' from pages n pages n pages back.

Yes. So we need more factual data.
If it didnt EMP when honked, .... well it can still be a UP.
It's in a system which is used for UA hoarding. Can still be a UP there ...

Brass Monkey Test required.
 
Have we tried honking a UP in the presence of a free floating UA in the shell?

I'm thinking:

..| (1) could describe the inner radius of the shell. Angle shows the distance.

.|. (2) shows outer limit of shell

.|| (3) says to make the UP transmit in the shell

|.. (4) says that it will disrupt the shell.

(It may be that disrupting the shell is a bad idea)


Riz did test with a free floater in ADR GW-W D1-52.
 
As I stated earlier Merope 5C has massive images hidden on it's surface around the coordinates: -28.1990 -157.4042 0.136.
Images have been treated with the "key" from the news letter. There's so much out here!
#1: http://imgur.com/g22hTBk
#2: http://imgur.com/fK7zpjj
More treated images to follow. There's a message down here bois, lets either get crackin or try to get the probe to do it for us!

Is anyone listening?
 
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UA. See above :)
EDIT: It could would mean the UP actually spawns in the same system as the UA, but we need a bit more to go on. :)

Whilst I'm fairly certain this is going to have been a UA, I have long suspected that the UPs would be somewhere in the UA shell. I haven't found any evidence of them, despite trying, but there is the UP convoy comms chatter. To me it sounds like the convoys were expecting to get a UA when they picked up the probe. I can't remember the whole chatter but don't they say something along the lines of "Is it just me, or is this one different to the others?" and "Isn't this thing supposed to scan us?".

I tried looking for some in orbital cruise, but every time I tried since 2.1 dropped, I failed to find any USSs in orbital cruise in the bubble, despite finding many previously (probably more to do with the spaw rate though".
 
Yes. So we need more factual data.
If it didnt EMP when honked, .... well it can still be a UP.
It's in a system which is used for UA hoarding. Can still be a UP there ...

Brass Monkey Test required.

Indeed. We have an idea, now we need to turn it into a decent hypothesis.

Idea -
Unknown Probes can be found in the Artefact 'shell'.


Method(s) -

Explore systems in the shell, exploring USS in them.
Can the image in the spec graph be used to work out where in the shell?

edit: My line of thought is thinking of x;y;z and distance from a point of origin. Since the only thing we actually know is things are pointing at / away from Merope, that could be used (or the shell for reference). But without the x;y;z;distance it's pointless. Of course Merope might not be the reference point.
 
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