UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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who?

who?
Colonel Kenney said:
Somewhere Michael Brookes is banging his head on his desk.
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As above, I think he's loving it. It's probably the most cost-effective content in-game.

Consider the time it takes to create that image, then encode it in the audio, plus the code to play that sound file once the UP is scanned; it's not a massive amount. Now look at how much time that many, many players are spending hunting UPs, searching systems, setting the forums and Reddit alight. The amount of attention the search is getting in the gaming media, and now even on TV.
 

Derthek

Derthek
LordZoltan said:
Unsurprising.

"I chopped out this bit and that bit, rotated that and mirrored it three times (because once wasn't enough), divided by 5.67 recurring and threw damp confetti at the screen while playing the noseflute... And it must be right because when I analysed the results, I got what I was looking for."

Of course it's best judged when the final solution is actually published.

For now, though, it's YARDS*

* yet another rumoured definite solution
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To be fair the goal is solid and I completely understand why they want the answer they got, I just don't understand the correlation between the puzzle and the answer they got. If they do prove the connection to be satisfactory then I'm keen to believe but for now it's a pretty large gap.
 

ActualSpacePimp

ActualSpacePimp
LordZoltan said:
Unsurprising.

"I chopped out this bit and that bit, rotated that and mirrored it three times (because once wasn't enough), divided by 5.67 recurring and threw damp confetti at the screen while playing the noseflute... And it must be right because when I analysed the results, I got what I was looking for."

Of course it's best judged when the final solution is actually published.

For now, though, it's YARDS*

* yet another rumoured definite solution
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This must be a scientific acronym, because I'm ex military and we have thousands, and I've never heard that one. I will however be stealing it for my own use.:p
 

lorrad

lorrad
LordZoltan said:
Sorry just a quick brain wave on the issue of where Unknown Probes can be found outside of the convoys.

UAs - Hypothesis

If UAs are indeed a scouting/scanning party, as many of us have suggested, then their placement is important. The shell is a vast volume of space, but the range is *very* precise.

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that they're searching for something that could move and which started out from Merope. Its speed was known, but the amount of time it travelled for, less so. Or vice versa. This would give you a region of space exactly in this shell shape - in which, if you had the means - you'd seed with scanners and listen for the lucky ones which said 'over here! over here!'.

So the placement of the artefacts around Merope was deliberate: what they were looking for was in that shell and can only have been in that shell, because that's where it started. They broadcast their location because that was their job ('reporting from here'), and they then scanned our ships because that's also their job - but not exclusively our ships. It's possible that our ships only served to confuse matters! ;)

UPs - Hypothesis

So, why the probes? The probes are more precise - with more capabilities (and perhaps produce less noise, because they don't scan our ships!) - but they're perhaps not focused on locations in space, but locations on a surface - because that's where what they were looking for has ended up. They're orbital surveyors.

The question is where would you deploy your more advanced probes? If you follow the same modus operandi as with the artefacts - then you'd deploy them where your lucky UAs which screamed 'over here! over here!' told you to.

So?

If correct - then unknown probes will found in the shell. But perhaps not in deep space - Unknown Artefacts have that covered - but around one or more planets or moons that have been deemed as good targets for the probes to do their work.

Problems

It might only be one planet or moon. But it's possible that either the UA offers a clue as to where; or perhaps more likely that the UP does.



Thoughts?
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To be a Debbie Downer,,,if you've sent out probes to find something, why send more after you've found it? If the success signal is exactly that, there's no need for more probes than were sent in the first place. There may be no more probes.

The biggest problem to sciencing here is that it's science in a realm of maaaagic, Fdev being the magicians. Do they maintain logical internal consistency, the mark of good writing, or do they make and break it at their convenience. We see an attempt at the first and signs of the latter such as discoveries appearing when they want them to and not before, like UA's screaming before and now dropping fragments.

Just a game afterall.

BTW I notice if you take the few tip-off crash messages that mention the "myth", the sightings seems scattered on the galmap at first but do ruffly line up and point to Regor.
 

Arguendo

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lorrad said:
BTW I notice if you take the few tip-off crash messages that mention the "myth", the sightings seems scattered on the galmap at first but do ruffly line up and point to Regor.
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What does Roger have to do with the tip-offs?
 

AlienBaby

AlienBaby
Nagual said:
Unknown Artefacts have identical texturing on their cylindrical doodaas, as the Barnacle pods do. [as near as I can tell] I like it.
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I've been thinking for a while the UA pods are the seeds for new barnacles, and the UA/UP are perhaps working together to either find candidate barnacle sites for the UA's to drop seeds on, or the UP's are co-ordinating the UA's .. I've been trying to think of what they could all be doing and why, and if we had a clear understanding of that then the meaning of the image will be much clearer.
 

Toxophilist.

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Following the thought train Lord Zoltan started a few pages back, is it possible that we do have all we need?
Quadrant one --| shows us two reference points Merope and the shell of UA's as a radius.
Quadrant two -|- shows us that we are based on a landable planet (based on our sensors interpretation)
Quadrant three -|| is something like a scan is/was required or becomes a third reference point
Quadrant four |-- is showing where in or beyond the UA shell we need to look.

I'm working on the theory that these probes are serving as data points that let the ancients return to their ancestral home or they are distress beacons designed to be found by any intelligence and have to be a compromise because of this. The picture is not a sphere in my mind as the perspective of the vanishing points just isn't right. The lines of longitude should converge to a single point. It looks more like a shallow dome. Maybe it just shows the curvature of space from a galactic top down view?
 

ActualSpacePimp

ActualSpacePimp

AlienBaby

AlienBaby
ilo said:
you think.

IT IS unknown yet.
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I keep seeing posts stating 'It is a decoder ring!' can anyone explain what this means specifically? - not necessarilly the resulting decoded message, just what the hell is meant by 'decoder ring' and it method ofoperation.


//edit/ ha ok I just read rthe 'put up or shutup' post and the fake galnet :)
 
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TargetLost

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I gave up. But my NPC Co-Pilot is still trying hard to solve that puzzle.

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ActualSpacePimp

ActualSpacePimp
ActualSpacePimp said:
It's a stretch, but I have given consideration that the UA and UP might be different phases in the barnacle life cycle... Sadly I have no evidence to back this up, only conjecture.
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I didn't see it on the front page. Has anyone dropped a UP on a barnacle friendly planet and left it? It seems wasteful as difficult as they are to come by, but perhaps it does want to find somewhere to mature and that's why it points to 5C. I know it will degrade over time, but have we let it degrade completely and seen if anything ever grows there?
 

DialBforBiscuit

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Toxophilist. said:
Following the thought train Lord Zoltan started a few pages back, is it possible that we do have all we need?
Quadrant one --| shows us two reference points Merope and the shell of UA's as a radius.
Quadrant two -|- shows us that we are based on a landable planet (based on our sensors interpretation)
Quadrant three -|| is something like a scan is/was required or becomes a third reference point
Quadrant four |-- is showing where in or beyond the UA shell we need to look.

I'm working on the theory that these probes are serving as data points that let the ancients return to their ancestral home or they are distress beacons designed to be found by any intelligence and have to be a compromise because of this. The picture is not a sphere in my mind as the perspective of the vanishing points just isn't right. The lines of longitude should converge to a single point. It looks more like a shallow dome. Maybe it just shows the curvature of space from a galactic top down view?
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Ok, ok I've been a huge opponent to the map idea, but this made me take a moment to think one more time about it. Quadrant four |-- the two independent lines that don't point in the middle exactly. Its way too similar how the UA points to the star and UP points to a planet. Two directions in from the shell that are just a tiny bit apart. Probably doesn't mean anything, but its an observation.
 

Whispers68

Whispers68
Vent said:
No it was not. Let's see what we get from this one first.

Honking it and then recording for just over 6 minutes will be really cutting it close.
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I had a closer look at the sound files that you provided.

First of all thanks for taking the efford. Unfortunately I found the files hard to interprete especially when trying to note down the chirps which are short in duration and soft in volume so with the ambient noise its easy to miss on them or misinterprete a tone.

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unfortunately I could not find a matching repeating pattern in the purrs or chirps.

If we assume, that the message is at least 6 minutes long, considering the patch notes entry, then it would be easily possible, that a 3 minute recording does not include a large enough overlapping section to ensure that it is a unique repeating message.

Unfortunately, I do not have a UP myself so I can only beg you. If you find the time, could you repeat that test on a planet surface with at least 6 minutes of each recording and ambient sound turned off? I would take the data and try to find a pattern in the chirps and purrs.

I have no honks in the data, since I could not hear the UP honk a single time (maybe it only honks in merope?) who knows....

I think the more data we get the more likely we are to figure out if the UP song includes valuable information....

Thank you in advance

cmdr Whispers68
 
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