UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[gaplant]

See page one., and thank you for volunteering

Page one is great- IF Rizal wants to spend 27 hours a day updating it. It's a good start for new peeps but it's kinda out of date and overgrown at the same time!

There's some "idea mapping" or "mind mapping" kinds of apps out there that are a little more flexible than spreadsheets, or maybe something in the google docs world would work for this. We need something more people can add too, but that also has some areas locked down, and can be organized more easily than the list.

I'll put it on my list of things to look for, @hbosch you should too. Something we can use that's online or can be hosted somewhere online.

 

[Cmdr. Cyrano Buckminster]

Taking advantage of your post here, I pop up just a minute to say this:


I'm still very much convinced that the two bottom glyphs ARE NOT RELATED TO THE TOP ONES.
They are too much different in size and spacing to be related: they are a red herring.

I've the clearest image of the spectrogram ever made in front of me now, and those two bottom symbols seems more to me like:
| - - FROM TO - - |


So what if the circle is not four quadrants but just two halves?


And they are telling us WHERE the UP ARE right now?
I mean the UP SHELL location?
A map for them then?

The left part is the FROM and the right part is the TO. A RANGE.

Like the UA bubble that is 135 to 150 Ly from Merope.

Cheers CMDRs

http://i.imgur.com/Mt1aK6i.jpg

It may be as simple as:
I - - Start here
-I- Look here
{{ - I I Listen (scan) here
- - I Go here

 

[HBosch]

Page one is great- IF Rizal wants to spend 27 hours a day updating it. It's a good start for new peeps but it's kinda out of date and overgrown at the same time!

There's some "idea mapping" or "mind mapping" kinds of apps out there that are a little more flexible than spreadsheets, or maybe something in the google docs world would work for this. We need something more people can add too, but that also has some areas locked down, and can be organized more easily than the list.

I'll put it on my list of things to look for, @hbosch you should too. Something we can use that's online or can be hosted somewhere online.

Will do, i think some really smart people have put up some really good ideas here and that with some applied logic we can get to the right path....

 

[Cmdr. Cyrano Buckminster]

Taking advantage of your post here, I pop up just a minute to say this:


I'm still very much convinced that the two bottom glyphs ARE NOT RELATED TO THE TOP ONES.
They are too much different in size and spacing to be related: they are a red herring.

I've the clearest image of the spectrogram ever made in front of me now, and those two bottom symbols seems more to me like:
| - - FROM TO - - |


So what if the circle is not four quadrants but just two halves?


And they are telling us WHERE the UP ARE right now?
I mean the UP SHELL location?
A map for them then?

The left part is the FROM and the right part is the TO. A RANGE.

Like the UA bubble that is 135 to 150 Ly from Merope.

Cheers CMDRs

http://i.imgur.com/Mt1aK6i.jpg

It could also be:
-I- One large pizza
{{ - I I Everything on it but anchovies
- - I Normal cut
I - - Add an order of wings

 

[Belthize]

Actually it's even simpler than that, I think... remember that logarithmic scaling was used to convert the audio frequencies into the image, so there are just different amounts of resolution available in the top and bottom.

I'm not a fan of the theory that top and bottom markers have different meaning but this can't be the explanation. Scaling will effect their height only (frequency scaling), not their width (constant time cadence) which is problematic because it's in width that the two most fundamentally differ (I have a picture about 1345 tinfoiles ago showing this).

 

[Toxophilist.]

Actually it's even simpler than that, I think... remember that logarithmic scaling was used to convert the audio frequencies into the image, so there are just different amounts of resolution available in the top and bottom.

I would agree on this given that you just can't encode as much data in lower frequencies. Laws of physics or nature or whatever. I think that a lot of the artifacts are pure eye candy too to make the image look more real and immersive. Too sharply delineated and isolated from the background sound scape and the puzzle loses some of its mystery.

 

[gaplant]

I was thinking about the SRV scanner just now. It uses sound to represent something other than sound. That lead me to thinking about sonar.


I really don't know what to do with these yet, but it has been something on my mind a long time. I know Sonar is south passing through water. However, that doesn't mean that whatever it is we're sending out with the ADS isn't something we represent as sound upon returning. Similarly an alien device might prefer the SRV-like functionality for its dashboard over some sort of visual range.

Speculative Notions:
https://www.exploratorium.edu/theworld/sonar/images/sonar.gif

http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-vector-vector-sonar-scope-20986462.jpg

https://www.atlas-elektronik.com/what-we-do/surface-combatant-systems/air-sonars/

https://emrprojects.files.wordpress...ental-screen-photo-courtesy-of-craig-boys.jpg

http://www.scen.it/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/PPI_radar.jpg

http://www.soundmetrics.com/getmedia/035431e3-d929-4785-84fc-fd577539e5b4/SpinningUmbrella.gif.aspx?

Well whatever it is, it sure aint EM radiation. I've always imagined it as being something FSD related- cause it's at least meant to be wayy faster than light, if not instantaneous. Still not sure if the delay for the DS to find planets is intentional to imply it takes time for the pulse, or just the way the game is designed.

 

[Keybuk]

It could also be:
-I- One large pizza
{{ - I I Everything on it but anchovies
- - I Normal cut
I - - Add an order of wings

That's a testable theory.

 

[gaplant]

I'm not a fan of the theory that top and bottom markers have different meaning but this can't be the explanation. Scaling will effect their height only (frequency scaling), not their width (constant time cadence) which is problematic because it's in width that the two most fundamentally differ (I have a picture about 1345 tinfoiles ago showing this).

It won't affect the width, true, but it does make them blurrier and lower resolution in X. My point was that the reason they might be bigger is that the artist might have made them the same size, then tried it out and they were too hard to read because they were near the bottom, so he went back and made them bigger so they were clear.

- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -

That's a testable theory.

this hate for anchovies is really making people miss the obvious clues though. ><o>

 

[Toxophilist.]

this hate for anchovies is really making people miss the obvious clues though. ><o>

Didn't the last anchovies get eaten in 3001?

 

[Gut Rumble]

Just looked at the vid on page one and have a question...
.
The player released the alien , then used his ADS on it, we heard the build up then the HONK , but why wasn't it on his HUD ?
No blue line moving along till the HONK happens.

 

[fieval]

Sorry for the interruption, and probably a total waste of your time... but has anyone noted the name given to Jaques at the moment?
Its "80 DD-D 774-CE-2" , it just looks odd to me. Could it be a key for something you guys are interested in?
As I said probably nothing in it.

 

[DialBforBiscuit]

Ok guys, i'm 99.9% sure the UP image is a distortion of our ship's hud, because

That matches the grided circle in the UP image. (Which is big here)

Spoiler

The full spectrum image even has shield bars on the right and some random lines on the left that match the area where your selected target appears.

The curious thing is, only one of the 4 arcs in above picture appears in the UP image along with other random symbols. What if our first step is figuring out what this distortion is trying to ADD to our huds? Might help narrow down what we need to look at.

It was stated that it might be a hud distortion before MB said some theories were close. In case that's important to people.

 

[CMDR Davanix]

Ok guys, i'm 99.9% sure the UP image is a distortion of our ship's hud, because http://i.imgur.com/xBSV6l9.jpg

That matches the grided circle in the UP image. (Which is big here)

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/xafYBgg.jpg

The full spectrum image even has shield bars on the right and some random lines on the left that match the area where your selected target appears.

The curious thing is, only one of the 4 arcs in above picture appears in the UP image along with other random symbols. What if our first step is figuring out what this distortion is trying to ADD to our huds? Might help narrow down what we need to look at.

It was stated that it might be a hud distortion before MB said some theories were close. In case that's important to people.

Maybe getting info to make themselfs a supercruise or frameshift interdictor like what the thargoids done to get us out of warp and into witch space. The image maybe shows some form of weakness to our traveling methods. Maybe after they get us using this then military drives will be implemented to help stop it??

 

[DialBforBiscuit]

Maybe getting info to make themselfs a supercruise or frameshift interdictor like what the thargoids done to get us out of warp and into witch space. The image maybe shows some form of weakness to our traveling methods. Maybe after they get us using this then military drives will be implemented to help stop it??

Uhm, probably just showing that the UA scans the outside of things and the UP is scanning the inside of things.

 

[Cmdr. Cyrano Buckminster]

http://imgur.com/kVOxVyL
http://imgur.com/dNshEsX


I'm just sayin' (so is Davanix). The answer is here. Ancient astrology. Not aliens. The lost colony ships.

 

[Toxophilist.]

http://imgur.com/kVOxVyLhttp://imgur.com/kVOxVyL
http://imgur.com/dNshEsX
http://imgur.com/9r6SRym

I'm just sayin' (so is Davanix). The answer is here. Ancient astrology. Not aliens. The lost colony ships.

I'd be happy if this led to a lost colony ship. That could happily lead to their "guardian angels" mythos and then more clues in the search for ET.

 

[CMDR Soundwave]

Ok guys, i'm 99.9% sure the UP image is a distortion of our ship's hud, because http://i.imgur.com/xBSV6l9.jpg

That matches the grided circle in the UP image. (Which is big here)

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/xafYBgg.jpg

The full spectrum image even has shield bars on the right and some random lines on the left that match the area where your selected target appears.

The curious thing is, only one of the 4 arcs in above picture appears in the UP image along with other random symbols. What if our first step is figuring out what this distortion is trying to ADD to our huds? Might help narrow down what we need to look at.

It was stated that it might be a hud distortion before MB said some theories were close. In case that's important to people.

Well, that it an alignment meter, and it doesn't do much else than to help you align your ship to the body / target.

Considering all the hints

1. Probe points to 5C
2. Scans hud
3. Relays translatable image.

We can deduce this to

1. Something is on 5C
2. Let me see how to communicate with you
3. Here's what I think you may understand


I'll give this rabbit hole a go and try out a few sciency things when I get back from work later.

 

[CFF]

Soooo, do you think there are 2D coordinates somewhere we need to find and then translate onto a sphere - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18264703/mapping-a-2d-grid-onto-a-sphere

 

[crushdepth]

Well, that it an alignment meter, and it doesn't do much else than to help you align your ship to the body / target.

Considering all the hints

1. Probe points to 5C
2. Scans hud
3. Relays translatable image.

We can deduce this to

1. Something is on 5C
2. Let me see how to communicate with you
3. Here's what I think you may understand


I'll give this rabbit hole a go and try out a few sciency things when I get back from work later.

Possibly important: Probe points to 5c *before* it is scanned. Actually it always points to 5c. It may be doing that for its own internal reasons.

It seems likely that there is something on 5c, but it may not be the subject of the message.