UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[Berkinson]

Idea maybe?

I am sure this has been done before but i haven't seen it yet (good chance i missed it in a post some where) but iv read a few posts about this being a "key" or code ring. If so maybe the symbol on the far right is a hint or indication of how far to turn this image or "key". This could be the first step and would change our direction of search on Merope 5c also it causes the symbol -|- to be put in focus?
Just a thought if this has beep pointed out before sorry..
Thanks CMDRs

http://imgur.com/gallery/zpD6r

 

[Decarna]

Anyone know when the last unknown probe was Retrieved from the convoy?

 

[ilo]

http://imgur.com/kVOxVyL
http://imgur.com/dNshEsX


I'm just sayin' (so is Davanix). The answer is here. Ancient astrology. Not aliens. The lost colony ships.

oh, lost colony ship. Awesome! I said this back on thread 6 and provided the same amount of proof, NONE

 

[HBosch]

Would love to test some theories, but finding a UP is hard! A couple of hrs wandering around USS in Ross 49 and nearby systems and nothing,
if i have to hear any more wedding chatter i may ram an asteroid.....

 

[Vent]

As suggested by Bungalo of The Canonn, I have performed a couple more experiments in an attempt to determine when a UP will light up and wail and when it will not. The data recorded can be found in the post linked in my signature.

It seems that the UP will wail when in proximity of a planet, but not a (main) star. With proximity I mean when the bottom left panel of your ship's HUD says the name of the nearby celestial body. The UP will not wail when in deep space. The significance of this is unclear.

During the last test of these experiments, I lost my UP when I disconnected while I had it out. You can see in the last video that I franctically and clumsily tried to scoop the UP when I noticed that my connection was dying. I managed to scoop the UP at the client-side in the end, but this couldn't salvage the situation. I disconnected shortly after and upon relogging, the UP was not in my cargo hold. A ticket to FD support has been sent in the hopes of getting it back.

 

[simulacrae]

Ya well this is what I came up with tonight .... I call it my GIGO theory

Spoiler

 

[Atebits]

Just thinking ahead some...

Do we have a plan to talk to somebody in the event anyone should appear?




I was just thinking tonight what I'd do if some idea of ours suddenly worked. Imagine a few seconds later a ship shows up; it's not human. What do you do?

 

[Lordxenu]

As suggested by Bungalo of The Canonn, I have performed a couple more experiments in an attempt to determine when a UP will light up and wail and when it will not. The data recorded can be found in the post linked in my signature.

It seems that the UP will wail when in proximity of a planet, but not a (main) star. With proximity I mean when the bottom left panel of your ship's HUD says the name of the nearby celestial body. The UP will not wail when in deep space. The significance of this is unclear.

During the last test of these experiments, I lost my UP when I disconnected while I had it out. You can see in the last video that I franctically and clumsily tried to scoop the UP when I noticed that my connection was dying. I managed to scoop the UP at the client-side in the end, but this couldn't salvage the situation. I disconnected shortly after and upon relogging, the UP was not in my cargo hold. A ticket to FD support has been sent in the hopes of getting it back.

That is interesting. I dont have time to check for the original so massive apologies if this is a misquote but MB's testable theory comment referred to a suggestion we should be checking systems outside of merope does the wailing appear at any stars near the merope system? Also does the wailing change based on which planet you are near? Great sciencing!

 

[DubbleJoe Seven]

Just thinking ahead some...

Do we have a plan to talk to somebody in the event anyone should appear?

I was just thinking tonight what I'd do if some idea of ours suddenly worked. Imagine a few seconds later a ship shows up; it's not human. What do you do?

this is actually a really good idea. Maybe we dont solve the puzzle in time and they just show up at our door.

Havent seem much discussion in the forum regarding the new trailer but it straight out says something has been watching us. we have failed to understand its communications and it is coming.

 

[Vent]

That is interesting. I dont have time to check for the original so massive apologies if this is a misquote but MB's testable theory comment referred to a suggestion we should be checking systems outside of merope does the wailing appear at any stars near the merope system? Also does the wailing change based on which planet you are near? Great sciencing!

These recordings were done in a random system roughly 3000 Ly away from the bubble, as I am currently on a short exploration trip. I only looked at the 'data' during the recording itself and I haven't noticed any difference between the wails of the two different recordings near two different planets.

I leave the hard sciencing of the data itself to experts.

 

[[VR] Frank_G]

We do not need them at all!
In my theory the glyphs are not binary nor anything else if not markers, or placeholders for the quadrants in the drawing. Every purrs triplet represents one of the quadrants, so what we achieve in the end is a sequence of quadrants.
Anyway I understand Arguendo's concerns about that we don't know where the beginning of the UP transmission is, and if the transmission is consistent or it does in fact change at every recording. So far it seems it does. So I've put it in stand by until I come back from holidays.

I still see the circle as Merope 5c, the uper 2 symbols as instructions and the lower 2 as an orbital diameter marker.

 

[Richardissimo]

overlaying multiple images

(long time lurker, just registered, but don't hold it against me; I've read or skimmed every post on thread 8, and a fair chunk of thread 7)(also note I'm 30 pages out from the latest when writing this...)

I'm only interested in the UP puzzle, and IMHO a single UP should suffice to decode the puzzle (albeit that might include the flashing lights or the way it looks, as well as the sounds.) Even the interaction with a honked-UA hasn't yet convinced me otherwise.

Hmmm. Almost impossible im afraid...

I wrote a program to do what Nazgual suggested last night (before seeing his suggestion). The only source data I have is basically the front page. So I split out the animated gif into its 6 frames, and created new images using Minimum, Median and Mean (each is commonly used for image cleaning). There isn't as much improvement as I was hoping. For example I was hoping that the area to the right of the circle might reveal more detail, but no luck.

One other thought: A lot of people are expecting to find the binary 1/2/3/4 from the circle in the data to decode. If this is a key, I would not necessarily expect that. You might just get 4 pieces of data and this key is telling you what they represent.

 

[Atebits]

this is actually a really good idea. Maybe we dont solve the puzzle in time and they just show up at our door.

Havent seem much discussion in the forum regarding the new trailer but it straight out says something has been watching us. we have failed to understand its communications and it is coming.

Right?


And if that's our one and only shot at a friendly outcome for all of this...

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeNBJ5o-b7s

- http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-Minbari_First_Contact


Hahaha, I had to go find it. Right now I see first contact as going something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyOj_QD4a4

 

[B1rdy]

Not sure if people have done this yet, but I've tried to extract the images from the left and right side of the spectrogram.

http://imgur.com/a/GiDWY
I don't know if there is any meaning behind them, but it's interesting that they overlay so well with the "main" image.

It looks like the message originally was devided into more than one part. But somehow, left and right to the "compass", the transmission was or is interfered.

The symbol on the right is most obviously a hint, there is something missing. We may have to complete the whole message manually or get the probe to reveal the whole message.

 

[Han_Zen]

Taking advantage of your post here, I pop up just a minute to say this:


I'm still very much convinced that the two bottom glyphs ARE NOT RELATED TO THE TOP ONES.
They are too much different in size and spacing to be related: they are a red herring.

I've the clearest image of the spectrogram ever made in front of me now, and those two bottom symbols seems more to me like:
| - - FROM TO - - |


So what if the circle is not four quadrants but just two halves?


And they are telling us WHERE the UP ARE right now?
I mean the UP SHELL location?
A map for them then?

The left part is the FROM and the right part is the TO. A RANGE.

Like the UA bubble that is 135 to 150 Ly from Merope.

Cheers CMDRs

http://i.imgur.com/Mt1aK6i.jpg

Well, it is easy to translate the UP drawing into a map of the UA shell.

It takes just one leap of faith. Whoever made it, uses degrees as a code for light years.

1° = 1ly.

Right side = inner radius = 135ly.

Left side = thickness = 15ly.

It's a very strange relationship but as a secret code, it works.


Edit: Left side is a 30° range, not 15°. Makes it less suited as a code.

 

[[VR] Frank_G]

It looks like the message originally was devided into more than one part. But somehow, left and right to the "compass", the transmission was or is interfered.

The symbol on the right is most obviously a hint, there is something missing. We may have to complete the whole message manually or get the probe to reveal the whole message.

So lots of people start to see this as well... Take a look at Entomogants and my theory, it says exactly this.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...8-The-Canonn?p=4300455&viewfull=1#post4300455

 

[Atebits]

Redacted:
Tested
Failed

 

[two quiet suns]

as someone who has produced music all of his adult life and has a great interest in sound design and spent hours playing with audio files, my opinion of the before and after jumbled images that surround the sphere in the spectogram is;

they are artifacts from the effects/techniques used in making the sound. could be back-masked reverb/delay in front of the image and delay/reverb trails at the end or something along those lines.

remember whoever made the sound had to use the spectogram converted image sound as a base and make a sound using it that made sense audibly.

 

[Commandeur_Brin]

So lots of people start to see this as well... Take a look at Entomogants and my theory, it says exactly this.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...8-The-Canonn?p=4300455&viewfull=1#post4300455

Hum... As much as I'd like to agree with you, any theory involving counting pixels is a big no no for me...

 

[iFred]

Well, it is easy to translate the UP drawing into a map of the UA shell.

It takes just one leap of faith. Whoever made it, uses degrees as a code for light years.

1° = 1ly.

Right side = inner radius = 135ly.

Left side = thickness = 15ly.

It's a very strange relationship but as a secret code, it works.

If that´s the case, FD should have a good idea why an Alien´s lightyear is the same as our lightyear What a coincidence.

I was on the "if the line to 135 degrees is the radius of the UA-Bubble, then the 2 lines going away from the sphere is maybe the distance to the freefloaters" ... but hey...