UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
TFW Primus said:
Two things here:

1. This theory makes the most sense of any I've seen so for.
2. I don't like it.

I'm not sure why, it just seems off to me. I guess it could be right, but I have to ask, "Why". Why would it do that? Maybe I am just hoping for more from the probe. Specifically with the possibility of it being the "key". I'm really hoping it isn't just the key to representing the system it's in.

Regardless, great work putting together this theory. I love how the community responds to this kind of stuff.
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the EMP pulse will be the key to finding the Merope5C mystery (or any other cloaked ships/outpost). It will also act as an aid to future barney hunting- if we know there are definitely barneys in a new system & the number of planets involved it will cut out a lot of unnecessary searching& help us focus our efforts. I guess this may be the true purpose for CRCRs.
 

M. Volgrand

M. Volgrand
Phoenix Ryder said:
and can make this out too T R - M A.... above that is an N maby a G above that N too ?



http://i.imgur.com/jAtP17r.jpg
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I really believe this theory is wrong.

-I can see the 1 and 2. But not a three, not even the word "Aug".
-if the aliens were able to clearly draw a complex circle and other symbols clearly... Why would they make such a bad writing in there? Couldn't they simply say " meet us at..."?
-I believe you are actually making up these messages. Exactly the same way that someone was hearing a voice saying "meet me at..." Within the up signal. I don't mean you are lying, but that you are trying so hard to see something that simply isn't there that your mind is playing tricks on you.

I really appreciate your effort but I believe you have reached a dead end. But for all means please keep trying :) your next theory may be the right one!
 

M. Volgrand

M. Volgrand
On the other hand: there are some theories that point that the signal may be relating a different planet rather that 5c.

I disagree with that.

If the aliens wanted to point to a planet they could do as usual: the probe pointing directly to it. So why would they do that to deliver a complex message that related to a different celestial body? That so complex that simply makes no sense. Ockham's knife theory, The simpliest Answer is probably the right one.

Our mistery must be in m5c or nearby, but I would not try to search for it anywhere else.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Derthek said:
quick hypothetical before I self destruct, run home, and test this myself..

an eagle, a viper, and an asp are in the same instance. The Asp is carrying the UA, and drops its. During the UA scan, the Viper is the closest pilot to the UA. The eagle is watching it from third person mode. Which of the 3 ships does the UA emit morse for?
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I would have thought the Asp since that is the nearest, but...
are the pilots English, Irish & Welsh by any chance?
:D
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
Han_Zen said:
Strong energy emitters, like neutron stars, pulsars and variable stars all produce antimatter. It's even produced in our atmosphere during lightning. The nebula provides a sort of stellar atmosphere.
The Crab nebula is our prime example: http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblo...-the-day-crab-nebula-reveals-its-secrets.html
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Indeed. Antimatterisn't rare, it's created all the time and used every day. The problem is creating it in any real quantity

Frank Close's book is great for learning more https://www.amazon.co.uk/Antimatter-Frank-Close/dp/0199578877

Whether the Barnacles produce them, who knows - but it's a fun idea either way.
 

SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
Derthek said:
quick hypothetical before I self destruct, run home, and test this myself..

an eagle, a viper, and an asp are in the same instance. The Asp is carrying the UA, and drops its. During the UA scan, the Viper is the closest pilot to the UA. The eagle is watching it from third person mode. Which of the 3 ships does the UA emit morse for?
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Omgzzwtf said:
I don't get the joke, where's the punchline?
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I was thinking along the same lines. Reading Derthek's post here, I was expecting it to follow something like:

"an eagle, a viper, and an asp fly into a Coriolis starport.... you'd have thought at least one of them would have seen it." :D
 

Dreadp1r4te

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Jorki Rasalas said:
It is what it is, we are still trying to understand what that is. i don't think the probe(s) can be considered hostile, but the intentions of their owners may be suspect at this stage.

If Dreadp1r4te's theory is correct (we need to run more known systems against their UP signals to fully check that, but I still don't understand the interpretation of the radial line- how does that indicate binary pairs? Or have I misunderstood?) and this is a probe that explores & reports the characteristics of remote systems, then the UA is another type of probe watching for signs of intelligence - detecting & reporting the shapes (& maybe weaknesses) of ships of space-faring species (us) & it is possible that the UA is detecting and reporting more that we haven't yet decoded.

With the UA shell suggesting that is their maximum range, then the UPs may have a similar maximum range. In both cases they are reporting that information back to Merope5C, so that is their origin and the listening post there has still to be found, as it must be cloaked somehow. I think Cmdr Zulu's photographic feature may be relevant here (though that is not yet certain, it might just be due to graphic shading). What would be instructive is to get some more UPs and do a thorough honk/EMP search across 5C's surface, starting with the large crater, then Cmdr Zulu's coordinates (-28.1990 -157.4042) and so on. It seems as though the UP's EMP may disable any cloaking.

Did we ascertain the effective range of the EMP pulse? That would dictate the number of search pulse transmissions needed to cover any given area, which in the worst case will be the whole surface of 5C, but the crater and Zulu's point above would seem to be the most promising initial search areas.
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To be perfectly honest that is the symbol I am most uncertain about, at least from a visual representation. I am completely open to other interpretations.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Jorki Rasalas said:
It is what it is, we are still trying to understand what that is. i don't think the probe(s) can be considered hostile, but the intentions of their owners may be suspect at this stage.

If Dreadp1r4te's theory is correct (we need to run more known systems against their UP signals to fully check that, but I still don't understand the interpretation of the radial line- how does that indicate binary pairs? Or have I misunderstood?) and this is a probe that explores & reports the characteristics of remote systems, then the UA is another type of probe watching for signs of intelligence - detecting & reporting the shapes (& maybe weaknesses) of ships of space-faring species (us) & it is possible that the UA is detecting and reporting more that we haven't yet decoded.

With the UA shell suggesting that is their maximum range, then the UPs may have a similar maximum range. In both cases they are reporting that information back to Merope5C, so that is their origin and the listening post there has still to be found, as it must be cloaked somehow. I think Cmdr Zulu's photographic feature may be relevant here (though that is not yet certain, it might just be due to graphic shading). What would be instructive is to get some more UPs and do a thorough honk/EMP search across 5C's surface, starting with the large crater, then Cmdr Zulu's coordinates (-28.1990 -157.4042) and so on. It seems as though the UP's EMP may disable any cloaking.

Did we ascertain the effective range of the EMP pulse? That would dictate the number of search pulse transmissions needed to cover any given area, which in the worst case will be the whole surface of 5C, but the crater and Zulu's point above would seem to be the most promising initial search areas.
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Apologies for reposting my own post, but I have had a further thought which is linked to this argument (been awake since 04:00 & brain is not yet sufficiently coffeed up & operating coherently).

I suspect that a previous MB post was actually saying (& paraphrasing here) 'whether the UA is more intelligent than the UP is a testable hypothesis'; so what if the UA is the more intelligent type of probe, & it's purpose is to locate and report intelligent lifeforms. Possibly one specific type that we are not yet aware of- remember the initial reports when Jaques reappeared- they (i.e. UAs as he didn't carry any UPs) sang and then THEY arrived. I don't remember any suggestions that UAs sing while in a ship or station, so something triggered that singing. What if the second "they" is an intelligent species that we have yet to find and the UAs were triggered by their presence? It perhaps makes sense of Jaques current placement, indicates unknown aliens are in vicinity of Jaques, that they are possibly benign (Jaques was not destroyed by them , but his misjump was terminated in a region of relative safety), supports the hypothesis that UAs are the more intelligent type of probe than UP, suggests that the Thar originators of the UAs and UPs are interested in exploring (possibly exploiting/conquering) new worlds and also that they are aware of a third species of intelligence.

right, tinfoil off, must get more coffee!

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Allant Doran said:
Morning, cmdrs. Any news?
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A promising theory for the UP- see #5148 et seq
 
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