UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Arguendo

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Come on peeps this is huge - First look at a thargoid, they are coming to meet us - its peaceful
I like your work, but there is no way I see two faces in that image. One on the right if I am really stretching my imagination. I do however see a Swastika in the center of it, and that scares me! ;)
 
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Stop Arguing and meet ALIENS!!!!
http://imgur.com/a/lc3vk

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Its a shaded drawing - hold it back a bit - the whole pic
both are looking down and to the right from their perspective
 
Stop Arguing and meet ALIENS!!!!
http://imgur.com/a/lc3vk

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Its a shaded drawing - hold it back a bit - the whole pic
both are looking down and to the right from their perspective

Pareidolia to the max.

I like your enthusiasm but please don't keep spamming the same images. Give people a chance to respond, although most responses will be like my own; I don't see anything.
 
I like your work, but there is no way I see two faces in that image. One on the right if I am really stretching my imagination. I do however see a Swastika in the center of it, and that scares me! ;)


Just work with me here a bit and you will have an OMG moment as you see it....
 

Arguendo

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Its a shaded drawing - hold it back a bit - the whole pic
both are looking down and to the right from their perspective
Sorry, still don't see it. I see Homer Simpson on the right and a Swastika in the center. I really hope that's not an Alien sense of humor, because it's disturbing ;)
 
It's absolutely the decider.

I hope Riz has some recordings form his tests in Aries Dark region GW-W D1-52. That system has only one body and should there for repeat '110' signal, over and over.

If it doesn't, we are on thin ice.

Yep said the same last night. I too am very keen to find out how this 'message in the purrs' changes between systems.

The howl/not howl behaviour being switched by being near a planet seems stable. Need more than one system's purrs - and a *prediction* of system layout based on the proposed interpretation of them without prior knowledge - to strengthen the theory.
 
Let me tell you why, even if you have a point, you are not totally right. Sarcasm, regular conversations, general chitchat makes you learn about other people, in such a way you can later understand when someone is fully committed to his theory or is just randomly dropping ideas, when someone is focused on something and does not allow anyone else distract him and when someone can easily changes his mind changing also the bias of an idea.

I'm guilty of sarcasm and useless posts, I also contribute something sometimes. No need to sorry, I'm guilty and I know it, but it is not something bad. If you are here to stay it is better to start knowing each other, otherwise your theory might just slip between some more posts because believe it or not, you have more chances to be listened if you have been active for a while than just coming once in your lifetime - even if you just wrote the answer to all mysteries- .

You will also notice that the general chit-chat disappears when there is real science going on, but these we lack of luck, unfortunately.

Hmm, 2 of the last pages where about "How can I get the permission to Sirius? It doesn't pop up for me?". I have read the already some pages ago. This simply does not belong here.

People writing "Just woke up. What do we got up to now? Something new?" are to lazy to read the last pages. Instead they add nothing to the thread aside a request for further posts what has happend.

Posts about BBC or some video coming up that are merely related to the subject...

This is what fills the thread with needless information. This is what makes the more important posts to vanish in the pages that no one reads.

Regarding sarcasm, however, I am with you, in that this can be helpful for a discussion.
 
Hmm, 2 of the last pages where about "How can I get the permission to Sirius? It doesn't pop up for me?". I have read the already some pages ago. This simply does not belong here.

Given that I posted both the Sirius topics AND often post ''morning, anything new?'' posts, I would just like to say that my reasoning is that this is a community. I like to post here to talk to people. When I asked what had changed, somebody provided me with the only specific post that was relevant and I went back and looked. No need to read ALL the pages.

I don't feel guilty about it and it won't stop being something this topic sees. The nature of having many, many, 1k-ish post topics is that people know each other reasonably now. It is natural that a community has small conversations to kill what would other be a topic that was dead for days at a time.

The ultimate irony of course is that complaining about it, and me discussing it with you, is only adding more to the problem. A real catch 22.

Additional: Regarding the Sirius topic, I was also the person that said I would now stop talking about it in the topic due to the irrelevance. I moderated my own conversation. You're the one who brought it up again :p :D
 
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I can't see how this explanation can be possible. Like someone else asked, and I have asked RiZ@L previously; How do you know when the sequence starts? You cannot do this by picking a random 6 minute segment in the audio. The only way to know which segment to use is to have two identical sequences of purrs, or a clear start and end point of the message. Unless you have one of those two, the "message" will change based on where your arbitrary start value is.
The latest recordings of the UPs are short, so there is no way to extract more than one 6 minute segment from them. The recordings also start about 1 minute after the UP is initially dropped, due to manoeuvring by the pilot to set up the Classified Camera. So there is atleast 30 seconds of audio from the UP that we don't know what is, and even one HIGH or LOW Purr prior to your start will shift everything and change your result completely.

I think this is a very interesting theory, but at the moment it seems like a forced result. With a Free Floating UP with "unlimited" time to record it's possible to check this, but we don't have those. Another way to test is as mentioned here, take the UP to a single star[/] system, with no other elements in the star system. By your theory, it should then repeat one 3-bit Purr pattern, and one Purr pattern only. If it doesn't, your theory then needs to be ammended to "it sends the pattern of the star system we should be focusing on, not the one it is in", which brings us back to needing a Free Floating UP to check a longer audio recording.

Sorry, I am not buying stock in this theory yet, but I like the work and thought behind it.


What I like the most of CMDR Dreadp1r4te theory is that you don't need a starting point, cause you are sure that in 6 minutes you get the whole transmission.
If you add that 6 min is the overall UP life before it going poof, that's exactly what you get recording its full life cycle.
Moreover, in the next cycle, or recording, the purrs sequence will change, but the overall triplet counts will be the same, and explains very well why two recordings in the same place seem to differ at a first glance.
Of course it needs to be proved with other recordings, but being en extension of what I've been trying to achieve in the last few days with the purrs and the glyphs, I find it to be elegant and very plausible.
Now it's time to confirm it.
 
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I read about the 101 stuff etc. I think it shows us which System we will find the UP. We should not try to match it to Merope. Can we find such a system over ED Database?
 
I read about the 101 stuff etc. I think it shows us which System we will find the UP. We should not try to match it to Merope. Can we find such a system over ED Database?

We should match it to Merope If it describes Merope perfectly AND continues to only point at Merope.

We need to wait on further testing of the probe in other systems to determine if that is the case or not. Nothing else will suffice until that is done and we shouldn't come up with MORE theories until we know for certain what the data is showing, now that we have a strong theory we know it IS data.
 

Arguendo

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What I like the most of CMDR Dreadp1r4te theory is that you don't need a starting point, cause you are sure that in 6 minutes you get the whole transmission. Moreover, in the next cycle the purrs sequence will change, but the overall triplet counts will be the same. Of course it needs to be proved with other recordings, but being en extension of what I've been trying to achieve in the last few days with the purrs and the glyphs, I find it to be elegant and very plausible.
Now it's time to confirm it.
I am being critical here, and it's on purpose, because any theory needs to be criticised and then defended. Again, I like both your and Dreadp1r4ate's (DRP from now on to save typing) theory that the purrs have meaning. I believe the same. I don't think this is it though, as it has some serious holes in it so far. I would happily be proven wrong though!
Below are my main criticisms of this theory.
1. The "6 minute" limit is based on a loosely formulated patch notes. It is so vague, we don't really know in what context it is to be taken. We all believe it limits the UPs sound to a 6 minute interval, but we don't have recordings over much over 6 minutes to prove it. We only have lots of short ones, that we really can't compare.
2. When you group a consistent stream of sounds into groups of 3s, how do you decide which sound to start with? There is no clear starting point, so you can choose any sound to start with and they would all give the same answer. That's the theory, right? So, the transcription used for DRP's solution needs atleast 2 more sounds on either side of his solution. Then you would start it one sound to the left, two sounds to the left, one sound to the right, and finally two sounds to the right and the answer should be the same. I highly doubt that's the case, but since we don't have those we can't check. And, to extend that, the next symbol in the line has to be the first symbol that the segment started with, because if it isn't then the answer is different by moving one 3-bit. There can be no arbitrary "6 minutes anywhere". It has to be a repeating signal for it to have the same answer over and over again. Right now, it does not have this as far as I can tell.
3. There are inconsistancies in his solution, counting stars and ringed bodies in different sets. He even missed a double that he counted as single, and when he was made aware of it he just "updated his theory on the fly." He also arbitrarily designated 3-bit sequnces to Stars and Asteroid belts, as they fit his theory with that given solution. This to me indicates someone looking for a solution, finding something that may fit, and going in that direction. It feels forced, reverse engineered, call it what you want. It does not feel like a solid scientific breakthrough.

His theory is however easily confirmed.
1. Get a good clean recording of about 6:30 and note all purrs. This should give you about 3-6 extra purrs (3-9 second intervals between them). Start with the first one and stop at 6 minutes. Check the result. Now start with the second purr and stop at 6 minutes from that. Check the result. If they aren't consistent, it is not the solution. And now you see, the first signal after 6 minutes MUST BE the same as the first signal for the sequence to be true for all 6 minute segments.
2. Or, take the UP out to a system that only has one star, nothing else. Check a couple of purrs. If they are not all the same; solution gone...but it could then be argued that it only purrs another system (eg. the system it was picked up at originally, Merope, the system we should visit, etc etc). Solution, go to test #1 :)

Again, I believe the purrs, wails, and even chirps have some other meaning to them. It would be very strange to me if they didn't. I just don't see this as a solution...yet. It may be a step in the right direction though.
 
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http://imgur.com/a/856gi Marked (makes it look terrible)

and then look at the unmarked

http://imgur.com/a/tzdEu

Try to view the screen from the bottom left looking up. the human face is adjacent to the right of alien face

"The Scream" has been found... finally in 3302!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/The_Scream.jpg

Honestly... I don't see what you see there.
If you can't make it clearly visible with a filter over the complete image (not just parts of it) than probably it isn't there.
 
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A voice into the void: I really wish this thread was much less;

Random chat, sarcasm, attempts at being funny, personal arguments, mean crticism, irrelevant photos and videos...

and more;

Visualised theories, test suggestions, theory elimination, organizing UP hunts...

Problem is people just have TOO MUCH time on their hands, so they end up filling these pages with absolutely useless stuff, seemingly +40% of the time, in the meantime causing enthusiasts who are searching for brainers here to waste their own PRECIOUS TIME going through their junk. I am sorry if this comes out as overly agressive but think about it. It will only HELP the community here if we are all a bit more considerate of others.

*Stowing Rant Cannons. Lurk mode engaged*

Well, if it was my response to Cmdr HBosh that triggered this then you misunderstand. He was asking for everyone's feedback on his theory, which has been repeated in various forms at least 3 times & my thought was the same each time, hence my repetition.
Comments on a theory are part of the scientific method which this thread attempts to follow. There is, admittedly, much banter and other posts on the which are not specifically focussed & at times can slow us down. However that is also part of the process for this thread, since we have no equivalent of the formal referee requirements for a scientific paper to be approved for publishing as per the RL process & we need to understand each others' viewpoints. Moreover this thread is part of a game, the purpose of which is to have fun...
 
Pareidolia to the max.


If i turn out to be right (and I am), would you mind terribly changing your name to CMDR Pareidolla,

i picture him as italian, with a flowing moustache, quick temper and penchant for fine wine, fast cars and of course many mistresses.
 
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