UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Molith

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CMDR Arguendo said:
UP recording from Single Star System can be found here.
Video file here.
Image of system here.

Courtesy of Vent! Thanks a lot!

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Quick transcript of sounds. - = High, l = LOW. First Purr at around 30 seconds. Only about 4 minutes in Classified Camera, but that should be enough.

l l - - l l - - l - - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l - - l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - - l l - l - - l - l - l l

Opposite: - = LOW, l = HIGH
- - l l - - l l - l l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - l l - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l l - - l - l l - l - l - -
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I get the same transcription.
 

CMDR Moortz

CMDR Moortz
Are there no triple repeats in that transcription (three lows or three highs)? It doesn't seem likely to contain anything relevant if not.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
HBosch said:
Sorry to be a pain - but you see i had acknowledged i was wrong in one respect, and came back with a different idea of changing the viewing perspective of the area where I suspect the image was. The hypothesis i just put up in the last 24 hrs is actually quite different to the one the day before that, i was wrong - back tracked and came at it from another angle, criticism was really helpful, but now im pretty confident in what i have - i am sorry you feel i am wasting your time, i've about come to the end of what i can put togethor and i will fade into the deep blue....

Farewell, Good Night and Good Luck....
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No no, if you believe in it then keep it up. JManis took a long time to convince people to believe in his UA Morsing theory which proved to be perfectly correct. I wasn't getting at you personally in any way. I was responding to Cmdr Cahn's response apparently to my comments on your post. The fact that I don't see what you see could be my problem not yours.
 

TheOneWithNoLife

TheOneWithNoLife
Han_Zen said:
Does it? Couldn't it be:

UP transmits: STAR,RINGED........................................................................6min.
UP transmits: RINGED, STAR...............................................................6min. Same system, second time.

We need recordings in simple systems to work this out.
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Maybe it transmits the closest object first, if it is scanning the system, maybe it arranges the bodies from closest to farthest. That's why its different.
 

Molith

M
Vent said:
So yeah, I got my UP back. I did a single star system recording. Full information (including video and a system map with info on the lonely star) in the post linked in my signature as usual.
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So according to your recording (thanks for that!) and my listening skills, I get the sequence:
110 011 011 011 001 101 001 101 101 001 100 101 100 110 010 110 101 00

If I use DP's interpretation, this would result in:
001 - 3 Binary Configurations
010 - 1 Atmospheric worlds
011 - 3 Planets
100 - 2 Barnacle worlds
101 - 5 Asteroids
110 - 3 Stars
plus two extra purrs (00) at the end, which would be an incomplete triple.

In case the sequence would be shifted by one purr, it would result in:
001 - 2 Binary Configurations
010 - 3 Atmospheric worlds
011 - 5 Planets
100 - 2 Barnacle worlds
101 - 2 Asteroids
110 - 3 Stars
plus a single extra purr (0) at the end.

In case the sequence would be shifted by two purrs, it would result it:
001 - 2 Binary Configurations
010 - 2 Atmospheric worlds
011 - 2 Planets
100 - 4 Barnacle worlds
101 - 2 Asteroids
110 - 5 Stars
And no extra purr at the end.

So the message means something different or is more complex than just that.
 
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CMDR Carbo

CMDR Carbo
From Vents recording I took a stopwatch and measured the delay between purrs.
The delay actually varies between 4 and 7 seconds.
For one piece of information/planet (1 unit = 3 purrs) this would make about 15 seconds on average.

So in 6 minutes there would be a maximum of 24 units of information that could be transmitted, for what it is worth.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
rizal72 said:
THIS, EXACTLY.

UP life is 6 min.

Whatever other recording made on a planet, where the UP does not decay, is not relevant for me.
That doesn't mean that we can try to work on them as well, but I suspect that UP is not built to land or be landed on a planet.
As I've already said many times, the UP sound must come from space, where it has a time limit, before expiring.

but I understand very well all Arguendo's points. The theory still needs to be proved. Nothing better than a single star system like ADR GW-W d1-52.

I have a recording made there, but it was before the patch.

TESTING THIS SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR EVERY UP HOLDER, if any.

FINDING A FREE FLOATING UP, instead, should be a priority for every one else.

PS
I've added the theory to the front page, as it deserves it, for now at least.
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well, in my opinion your current pre-patch audio should still be valid. Maybe it lasts for a few seconds after the UP expired but that should not change the validity of the data it contains. However if the UP did not expire so maybe you didn't get the full audio then I can see the problem (I've only had 4 hours sleep for the last 3 nights so I am feeling a bit dull).

while I like DRP's theory in outline, I am suspicious whether FD would give us a signal that has to be recorded for 6 minutes, then the tribits deciphered & each type summed to decode the information. It just doesn't seem very neat. However we should certainly be throwing more evidence into the deciphering process. Miss one or two bits out & the data stream is corrupted; it's not a reliable error-resistant coding method.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
rizal72 said:
Well, think about this. Even if CMDR Dreadp1r4te theory is wrong, we were able to transform a fearful pirate in a dedicated scientist in no time! :D
The fact that MB did not pop up to say something, for me means we still need to figure out more. I mean there could be more, even if the theory is right, perhaps we need to USE it somehow, to make something happen...
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Still think we need to take a UP & do orbital testing in various places around Merope5C, starting with the large crater!
 

CFF

C
CMDR Arguendo said:
UP recording from Single Star System can be found here.
Video file here.
Image of system here.

Courtesy of Vent! Thanks a lot!

EDIT:
Quick transcript of sounds. - = High, l = LOW. First Purr at around 30 seconds. Only about 4 minutes in Classified Camera, but that should be enough.

l l - - l l - - l - - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l - - l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - - l l - l - - l - l - l l

Opposite: - = LOW, l = HIGH
- - l l - - l l - l l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - l l - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l l - - l - l l - l - l - -
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Yeah, this doesn't look like a signal for a single star system. So a few things:

1. There is no code for the star in the system, that isn't indicated on the UP image anyway (as far as we know)
2. Can we standardize the - and | - I think - is 'low' and '|' is high makes most sense
 

Vent

Vent
aguettinger said:
From Vents recording I took a stopwatch and measured the delay between purrs.
The delay actually varies between 4 and 7 seconds.
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Is there a pattern to the variations? Someone said that in my previous recordings, the purrs sped up as time passed.

Unrelated to this new recording, the same person also said the wails in my wailing test recordings were less frequent than Mhyre's Merope 5C's surface recording.
 
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SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
aelemental said:
---Distraction Break---

UP: Wanna go chill on Merope ?
UA: Nah theres no real atmosphere.
The Unknown Artifact and and the Probe walk into a station.
The bar is full and everyone seems to be enjoying themself except that neutron under the table who had been drinking at no charge since it wasn just himself.
UA: One Meta-mojito please before i melt this place.
UP: Why don't you galvanize your shell to prevent corrosion?
UA: Because that would make me Zinc
(meanwhile the bartender says: What Will it be? A Tachyon walks into the bar)
The Dog Star stayed in silence, it was just to Sirius. So did the three moons in the corner, as they were down their last quarter.
Than a star with glasses comes in, but everyone just assumes its a movie star.
It was a busy day at the station, even a neutrino walked in the bar, and kept right on going..
The bartender checked his atomic clock but than thought that you can't really trust atoms, they make up everything so he kicked everyone out and closed up!
..


o7
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Impossible! - Mountain climbers are scalar...

On a slightly related note:

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Arguendo

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Arguendo
And as a sidenote. There has been a confirmed UP Convoy spotted in LTT 1935 a week or so ago. Wasn't reported here, but has been in Discord as we speak. It's added to the spreadsheet, and standing by for further info.
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Menenhetet

Menenhetet
Sterlino said:
ok i am there with cmdr Gypsy, what we must expect exactly ?
atm i don't see anything at all.
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If you've seen a POI just look around to verify that there is nothing visible to the eye to warrant the POI. It also may have shifted slightly, as it did when I had to restart. I saw it at 5km altitude and went down to 2km before it did what POIs normally do.
 

CMDR Carbo

CMDR Carbo
Vent said:
Is there a pattern to the variations? Someone said that in my previous recordings, the purrs sped up as time passed.

Unrelated to this new recording, the same person also said the wails in my wailing test recordings were less frequent than Mhyre's Merope 5C's surface recording.
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Hm, can't say I see a pattern. The delay just fluctuates, gets longer and then shorter etc.
If I measure the time in seconds from the beginning of your video (I probably skip 1s per purr to write the number down, though) it looks like this.

7,8,7,3,3,5,3,5,4,3,5,4,6,6,5,5,3,4,5,3,4.... etc
 
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