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UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Ozric
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To be honest if you watch his reaction to being put on the spot there are only two possibles.....he does know something and really didn't want to ruin it, or he knows nothing but for some reason he was acting like he did. Interesting/useful or odd....one way or the other.
Worth also noting his reluctance to shoot one in earth orbit, now as this hasn't caused some kind of in game calamity on earth (so far) it's difficult to interpret his reactions and leaves us taking everything with a pinch of salt........as he/frontier could just well be trying to fan the flames of intrigue given that this whole thing is making news headlines for them.
Ahh well over a year later and how much and how little has changed.
I personally think that Ed does not know where this mystery is going though he may know something about what is happening right now. I know that even if he did know he wouldn't say anything as he wouldn't want to spoil it for us. I am also certain that his not wanting to shoot it was down to personal preference only, the same reasons why I would not shoot one and have not shot a UA, or a Barnacle. Heck that's what Lab 69 is for anyway isn't it
I think the decision made by the planners at OGC to take it to Sol at the end was a very good one, it got some good reaction in the chat
*Edit* Oh, as long as we haven't doomed humanity (more than it already was)
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I feel a bit silly to ask that.
So, when I tried to create the spectogram myself from the UP EMP signal, I got a distorted signal. Just like these: http://i.imgur.com/kfrTCpk.png
I assumed that someone more skilled than I had "corrected" the image to create the almost perfect circle we are using for our tinfoil hatting.
But just now I had an small illumination: What if this deformation of the signal was intentional? Maybe we made a mistake by correcting it to make an almost perfect circle?
Yes, I feel very silly for asking this. But sometimes the silliest questions may have some truth hidden, right?
So, when I tried to create the spectogram myself from the UP EMP signal, I got a distorted signal. Just like these: http://i.imgur.com/kfrTCpk.png
I assumed that someone more skilled than I had "corrected" the image to create the almost perfect circle we are using for our tinfoil hatting.
But just now I had an small illumination: What if this deformation of the signal was intentional? Maybe we made a mistake by correcting it to make an almost perfect circle?
Yes, I feel very silly for asking this. But sometimes the silliest questions may have some truth hidden, right?
I always tought that, because when we get the easter egg espectogram it was perfect without the adustments....
Ozric
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Eggs have been mentioned fairly regularly
I think you misunderstood the concept of "Easter Egg" [/joke]
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To be honest if you watch his reaction to being put on the spot there are only two possibles.....he does know something and really didn't want to ruin it, or he knows nothing but for some reason he was acting like he did. Interesting/useful or odd....one way or the other.
Worth also noting his reluctance to shoot one in earth orbit, now as this hasn't caused some kind of in game calamity on earth (so far) it's difficult to interpret his reactions and leaves us taking everything with a pinch of salt........as he/frontier could just well be trying to fan the flames of intrigue given that this whole thing is making news headlines for them.
Ahh well over a year later and how much and how little has changed.
He seems to be a trustworthy guy, so I believe he doesnt know anything specific
Shooting a live probe in Earth Orbit can only be a bad thing ^^ if the Aliens were good guys? then now they will more than likely want revenge !!
Every time there is a bit of progress, the Devs release something new to solve... so the problem is trying to to figure out what they want us to discover or solve, hard to say if they will give out some crumbs to lead us on or not if we are stuck, the Devs are watching very closely and you have to wonder what they are thinking about when they read this discussion, are we on the right track ? or are we stone cold.... there are tons of users all caught up in this, and the chances of accidentally stumbling upon it is pretty good... tho I would expect the Devs to lock something out/down until a proper investigation had been made or the mystery solved the proper way
And yes... the Devs are absolutely geniuses! they have added this massive puzzle that pretty much anyone can participate in, it really is a brilliant idea... does not matter if you cannot explore tens of thousands of light years, it just comes down to giving some ideas/suggestions that may give others that can explore the opportunity to investigate such possibilitys
I have to wonder if this has also caught the eye of some NASA, or other space agency scientists, especially ones that have worked on or have good knowledge of the Voyager Probe artifacts... since there are some similarities there for sure from the Alien Transmission
It also has been bugging the crap out of me all week. I've been in the shell hunting free floaters and specifically looking along these outposts. Why is Alpha in the middle? It makes no sense to me. Unless this is somehow a clue.
Also.. That infographic is amazing. Good work.
Some. The wikipedia article is reasonably informative but basically there are two types - short and long. Short ones are thought to be neutron stars coalescing. Long ones, supermassive start collapse.
Why do you ask?
Regarding this - is there a software which can simulate something like this with "our" picture ?
He clearly said when he sow my first video of the UP EMP reply, he tought it was a fake, and only after MB said to him he was "true" and "as intended", he understood something was happening for real. I don't think he is aware of the mystery, or at least he doesn't know the full picture.
About the spectrogram:
in this kind of things, where there is no UNIVERSAL way of scaling to see them correctly, you need an universally known element to get the correct scale:
in our galaxy, that element is a CIRCLE
The same principle is used in TV transmissions: the test image always contains a circle.
Same thing was done in the voyager's golden disk, for the images encoded in it: a circle was the very first image. Until you cannot see the circle round, you are not getting the correct decoding.
And so on...
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There's at least three or four different convoys that can spawn, UP convoys being a "rare" one. So no, Convoy Dispersal Pattern (Threat 4) is not a guarantee of a UP convoy.
He clearly said when he sow my first video of the UP EMP reply, he tought it was a fake, and only after MB said to him he was "true" and "as intended", he understood something was happening for real. I don't think he is aware of the mystery, or at least he doesn't know the full picture.
About the spectrogram:
in this kind of things, where there is no UNIVERSAL way of scaling to see them correctly, you need an universally known element to get the correct scale:
in our galaxy, that element is a CIRCLE
The same principle is used in TV transmissions: the test image always contains a circle.
Same thing was done in the voyager's golden disk, for the images encoded in it: a circle was the very first image. Until you cannot see the circle round, you are not getting the correct decoding.
And so on...
Indeed. The PI line may have been a simple indicator that it is a circle.
It also has been bugging the crap out of me all week. I've been in the shell hunting free floaters and specifically looking along these outposts. Why is Alpha in the middle? It makes no sense to me. Unless this is somehow a clue.
Also.. That infographic is amazing. Good work.
Well, if the convoy was going from Alpha to Beta through ROSS 47.. they are doing it really wrong
There are some flying around 42 N Persei with a faction name of "Black Flag Operations".
Hmmm... I don't have an interdictor and I'm not keen on getting a bad rep with the local military anyway..
BFO could be the Federation's equivalent of Section 31/Obsidian Order/Tal Shiar.
Or, maybe BFO is the paramilitary wing of a corporation. Say, Sirius.
They have a presence on the bulletin board at the base "PRE Logistics Support Alpha", but no missions are accessible to me until I get a better reputation with them.
Hmmm... I don't have an interdictor and I'm not keen on getting a bad rep with the local military anyway..
BFO could be the Federation's equivalent of Section 31/Obsidian Order/Tal Shiar.
Or, maybe BFO is the paramilitary wing of a corporation. Say, Sirius.
They have a presence on the bulletin board at the base "PRE Logistics Support Alpha", but no missions are accessible to me until I get a better reputation with them.
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Ozric
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It also has been bugging the crap out of me all week. I've been in the shell hunting free floaters and specifically looking along these outposts. Why is Alpha in the middle? It makes no sense to me. Unless this is somehow a clue.
Also.. That infographic is amazing. Good work.
The rest of the names don't follow the alphabetical order anyway, it would be 241563. I'm more interested in the fact that Epsilon is so out of line from the others.
I think it looks unnatural as it is, I think it is fair to assume that it is a circle and or other parts should be scaled to the rest of the image for testing
I still believe that the circle is a Planetoid, and the 3 diagonal lines are trying to tell us that this is a key of sorts to unlocking/discovering a... "something" on a certain planet, you have to think of this key as a 3 dimensional image, the 3 lines are like a Global Positioning System, you have 3 points aiming at a single point on the Planetoid... in the Alien transmission, it points to the center of the planetoid, BUT I think we can ignore that fact and its just meant to be a guide... earlier I used the in game Universal Cartographics and I noticed that there are rings around every moon or planet that you zoom into from the Universal Cartographics interface, each ring has a peg or marker or more than one that points to the center of that moon or planet...
next time you are in the Universal Cartographics, rotate the globe to the south pole, and you will see 3 markers in the bottom ring alone
But, from the front, I used the very inner ring as one guide, since the 2 pegs matches that of the 2 equal diagonal lines, which is like 30 degrees apart on the Alien transmission, I then rotated the globe a bit and I then used a 3rd peg from another ring as it moved around and it lined up pretty much perfectly ! the only reason it wasnt perfect is because all I just had to do was to move the globe around a little bit more and it would have been a perfect line up... I figured out it was pointing to a single point in the northern hemisphere on the globe, the only issue is..... there is no way right now to confirm my findings since we do not have a target location, I tried it on Merope 5C, but there was nothing in that area apart from normal discovery spawns
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Now that I am home for a couple days, I have the time to say this, about the UP spawning in Ross 47.
When I spotted the UP Convoy for the first time, I was there to get Qwent's access. I was running missions in Sirius area.
I still think they are there because Sirius Corporation is fully involved in the UP and UA mystery.
BUT
1) what if FD decided to put the UP convoys around all the Engineers locations, cause they are aware people are always around them?
That's why they set the spawn rate that low, assuming someone sooner or later would check those filty threat 4 convoys showing around in those areas...
When I spotted the UP Convoy for the first time, I was there to get Qwent's access. I was running missions in Sirius area.
I still think they are there because Sirius Corporation is fully involved in the UP and UA mystery.
BUT
1) what if FD decided to put the UP convoys around all the Engineers locations, cause they are aware people are always around them?
That's why they set the spawn rate that low, assuming someone sooner or later would check those filty threat 4 convoys showing around in those areas...
I've been thinking for a while that any FF are in places we have been give clues too. Perhaps not actual written clues per se, but as you say some place we could find without too much hassle.
I thought perhaps the area around the Starship One wreckage etc, but I didn't see anything.
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Sorry, could you please explain me what is this PI line? I'm afraid I've missed this part.
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