UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Since we cannot tell what reference point to use (yet), it's a futile question: if we extend the outer lines into the circle what is the intersection point?
 
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Since we cannot tell what reference point to use (yet), it's a futile question: if we extend the outer lines into the circle what is the intersection point?

Edit: The map tells us the reference point. Sorry I misread your post :eek:

When the orbit and the rings line up, the reference points are pointing directly towards and away from Merope 5. If you land at the inner reference point, and look up exactly 90 degrees, Merope 5 will be in the exact centre.

Illustrated thusly:
[imgur]DozaJ[/imgur]

Now, the lines do not intersect in the origin point, but they do match the angles of the orbit and the rungs, so that means the actual point is relative to the reference point (ie: the small circle in the middle of the image is the region). Using the map this way is the only way to produce a consistent fixed reference point on the surface with the minimal amount of information, which is what you would expect from an alien message when we don't have an agreed language or symbols. The universal language for reading the map is to understand what is required to determine a fixed point on a surface (lat long) and know the orbital characteristics of the systems involved.

Otherwise it is a very strange coincidence that the map lines line up forward and reversed [alien]
 
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Edit: The map tells us the reference point. Sorry I misread your post :eek:

When the orbit and the rings line up, the reference points are pointing directly towards and away from Merope 5. If you land at the inner reference point, and look up exactly 90 degrees, Merope 5 will be in the exact centre.

Illustrated thusly:
[imgur]DozaJ[/imgur]

Now, the lines do not intersect in the origin point, but they do match the angles of the orbit and the rungs, so that means the actual point is relative to the reference point (ie: the small circle in the middle of the image is the region). Using the map this way is the only way to produce a consistent fixed reference point on the surface with the minimal amount of information, which is what you would expect from an alien message when we don't have an agreed language or symbols. The universal language for reading the map is to understand what is required to determine a fixed point on a surface (lat long) and know the orbital characteristics of the systems involved.

Otherwise it is a very strange coincidence that the map lines line up forward and reversed [alien]

I like your approach CMDR, I'm thinking of putting it on the FP.

This post here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...nonn/page414?p=4320914&viewfull=1#post4320914
 
Guys,

I have just spent 3 hours in R CRA NEBULA system BRSO 14 and found nothing. Only two stars and no planets, so its a boring system!

I cruised up and down jumping into any USS I found, a Total of nine was seen (8 x DED, 1 x EED) no convoys. So I think we can cross this one off the first page list.

Reality is, if three hours is all it took to find at least one UP, we'd have them in bountiful supply right now. If this is anything like the UA convoys, you can spend a week and not find one.
 
A couple of questions apparently I've missed the answers if they exist...

Anyone with an UP has tried to replicate the cargo content of the military python while carrying an UP?

Has anyone followed the convoy to its destination? Is it actually possibile to track them with wake scanners?
 
A couple of questions apparently I've missed the answers if they exist...

Anyone with an UP has tried to replicate the cargo content of the military python while carrying an UP?

Has anyone followed the convoy to its destination? Is it actually possibile to track them with wake scanners?

I know people have tried similar things with the UAs and the "Scientific Research"....

As for following convoys, yes, and they just go to random systems and fly around randomly with no change to the conversations or anything else of-note.
 
I have been playing with the UP image that the CANONN group seems to have cleaned up.
This is the orignal image with which I have been playing.


I noticed that the arcs on the right side of the image strongly resemble the arcs above the circle/sphere. When I copied the right side part as an overlay on top of the left arcs, they matched exactly. I don't know whether this match is just from the lineair rendering or that it means something.



Assuming the right side is some detailed part of the sphere it might show surface landmarks or something like that.
Please give me your thoughts on this.
 
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Some. The wikipedia article is reasonably informative but basically there are two types - short and long. Short ones are thought to be neutron stars coalescing. Long ones, supermassive start collapse.

Why do you ask?

Apologies for the delay in my reply.

I am doing some research into GRB's and other similar effects caused by different kinds of supernovas. I am working on trying to determine if there are ways to predict when such an event would happen in advance. Not to worry, probably the wrong place to post and discuss this sort of thing as it is most likely unrelated to the mystery. I just thought it was an interesting topic but I do not want to derail the thread with my thoughts.

Fly safe o7
 
Apologies for the delay in my reply.

I am doing some research into GRB's and other similar effects caused by different kinds of supernovas. I am working on trying to determine if there are ways to predict when such an event would happen in advance. Not to worry, probably the wrong place to post and discuss this sort of thing as it is most likely unrelated to the mystery. I just thought it was an interesting topic but I do not want to derail the thread with my thoughts.

Fly safe o7

Well for the star itself RHO Cas is the one that should be gone bang :p
 
The three lines are for telling the reader of the message the messages reference time (ie Time 0) so we can work out other things like local time, and the origin point co-ordinates. The 45 degree line is when the rings of Merope 5 appear as a single line, and the 30 degree line is the orbital plane of Merope 5C. When Merope 5C is in the exact position in its orbit when the rings are a line, that is Time = 0. The rings will be a line two times per day, the second is at 3.3 days (ie 1/2 of Merope 5C orbital period.) At this point the 60 degree line matches the orbital plane: so it is the reverse of the 30 degree line. When the map is read this way, the origin point is the same lat and long at Time 0 and Time 3.3

I explained a little more in a prior post here: #6201

Cheers.

Ah thanks, I missed the post where you proved that was the solution to the UP mystery! The thread moves so fast, especially when you read it.
Cheers.
 
Yes that was one of the stars I was looking at, along with Eta Carinae. Hopefully none of them pop anytime soon!

Well i can safely say RHO is still there and we aint waiting for its light to hit us xD i was literly there before this whole EAFOTS thing came up in the rift mystery. god damn 6 fsd boosts used to realise someone got there before me :p
 
Ah thanks, I missed the post where you proved that was the solution to the UP mystery! The thread moves so fast, especially when you read it.
Cheers.

You are welcome and yes, the forum moves so fast and with so many pages, these things get lost.

Although to be accurate: What I posted is not proof, as this is science (or ... Science!) and proof is for pure mathematics. Lets say this is a solution with maybe 90% to 95% confidence :)

Cheers
Rixaeton (Stand back, I am doing Science!)
 

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Although to be accurate: What I posted is not proof, as this is science (or ... Science!) and proof is for pure mathematics. Lets say this is a solution with maybe 90% to 95% confidence :)
Wow! That's pretty high confidence there. Looking forward to your test-results then.
 
If anyone's been paying attention to Galnet, there's the new Galactic News post as of Aug 5 regarding burying a commander in his Cobra Mk III at Tionisla Graveyard. The Hull Registry is 'Cor Meum et animam', which translates to 'In my Heart Forever'. There was a message of "OTSEAFOTSEAF" that hasn't yet been decoded according to Galnet yet.

Curious to the possibility of this being related, could it be referring to the Heart & Soul Nebula.
 
If anyone's been paying attention to Galnet, there's the new Galactic News post as of Aug 5 regarding burying a commander in his Cobra Mk III at Tionisla Graveyard. The Hull Registry is 'Cor Meum et animam', which translates to 'In my Heart Forever'. There was a message of "OTSEAFOTSEAF" that hasn't yet been decoded according to Galnet yet.

Curious to the possibility of this being related, could it be referring to the Heart & Soul Nebula.

It appears that this news tidbit is a clue to the Formadine Rift mystery, but I wouldn't be surprised if both of these were somehow related.
 
Yes, I was thinking the same thing, but since I remember seeing some chatter somewhere about some of the folks on the Barnacle hunt were discussing H&S, if somehow Frontier is tying these two together somehow. Curious, but I wondered if it might help. Chatter says the message points to EAFOTS and says EAFOTS over and over again, but there's an awful lot of EAFOTS systems. That being said, I'm curious to what they'd all look like plotted out on the galaxy map. And if it'd be something important. I haven't seen much about the UP's audio message lately having anything new in it and it seems about as cryptic as ever to me.
 
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