I think we just need to try and apply some logic re UA locations. I know. a lot of us already are - just not the right logic
Heh, I know. Was just trying to lighten the mood...
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Heh, I know. Was just trying to lighten the mood...
Thanks for your answers MB. Hopefully people will stop asking now. xD
Indeed, but what logic: pre Shell or post Shell? 'Coz if Unknown Probes have a different purpose, what's the point of them forming a Shell?
I think we just need to try and apply some logic re UA locations. I know. a lot of us already are - just not the right logic
Indeed, but what logic: pre Shell or post Shell? 'Coz if Unknown Probes have a different purpose, what's the point of them forming a Shell?
Well.
This means that we HAVE to find the free floaters at all costs.
Some theories:
1. UP´s are the advanced version of the UA´s.
2. They are not.
3. UP and UA have something in common (same lifeform, origin or whatever)
4. Do we have a tool that shows us all UA´s in a bubble (good 3d-spacemap)?
This means that we HAVE to find the free floaters at all costs.
Some theories:
1. UP´s are the advanced version of the UA´s.
2. They are not.
3. UP and UA have something in common (same lifeform, origin or whatever)
4. Do we have a tool that shows us all UA´s in a bubble (good 3d-spacemap)?
I think we just need to try and apply some logic re UA locations. I know. a lot of us already are - just not the right logic
The problem right now is the vast number of theories, with no idea which is correct :/
"The UA is a coarse probe, the UP a fine probe, so it'll be found closer to it's target"
"I've worked on the spectrogram, and decided that the UP shell is 2-3x further out than the UA shell, so we should look about 400LY away"
So, in conclusion, we need to be looking nearer AND further away than the UA shell is found currently
Which is why it is SO important to only base our ideas on what we KNOW for sure about the probe, which appears to be; In certain locations it behaves differently AND the spectrogram image still has not been solved.
We need to refocus ourselves I feel. More energy and more enthusiasm for the original mystery; that image.
The problem right now is the vast number of theories, with no idea which is correct :/
"The UA is a coarse probe, the UP a fine probe, so it'll be found closer to it's target"
"I've worked on the spectrogram, and decided that the UP shell is 2-3x further out than the UA shell, so we should look about 400LY away"
So, in conclusion, we need to be looking nearer AND further away than the UA shell is found currently
Wouldn't them being in a bigger bubble defeat the purpose of being a finer probe? Expanding the bubble would just be brute-forcing.
Now, I'm not saying they're neither, and if they are a fine probe, and they seem to be, we need to find their target.
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http://i.imgur.com/TLk3K9W.jpg I don't have a 3d map, but that shows their distribution, definitely focuses on the 'poles' of the shell, using Sol as its focus point
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Not helped by the fact that even those with *highly* plausible theories have no real way of testing them, due to UPs being so elusive.
The problem right now is the vast number of theories, with no idea which is correct :/
"The UA is a coarse probe, the UP a fine probe, so it'll be found closer to it's target"
"I've worked on the spectrogram, and decided that the UP shell is 2-3x further out than the UA shell, so we should look about 400LY away"
So, in conclusion, we need to be looking nearer AND further away than the UA shell is found currently
Yup, at the end of the day, even if UP convoys are rarer than UP freefloaters, they are easier to find because we know where to look for them, whereas we have no idea where to look for UP freefloaters. People will always be more "motivated" to grind for UP convoys.
I like the second part of MB's answer though, it confirms what I've been saying about freefloaters probably having a different transmission, at least maybe one that doesn't have so much "noise" when you honk it, or even one that includes morse. Looking forward to its discovery.
Since UPs are on the prohibited list, maybe they can be bought somewhere?
Good point, I guess though, that it would be possible to alter the outcome by doing our own "orbital" tests. Regarding those, I am pretty sure that it is enough if you are in the proximity of a planet/moon, since that changes the behavior already, so no need to drop the OP in orbital cruise.
It's Highly unlikely it is, but there's a really small possibility.
Well. If one suppose that the UP is narrowing down on what the UA located, it might be worth checking the shell in various places for free floaters in SS.
It a large area, but on the + side, it's testable and not as insane as some stuff I did for the formidine rift. I will try to dust off my asp from its hangar
and get down to it over the WE.
What i mean is, maybe the Probe is a one time deal. It's already been used by the convoys to collect data, and that data is now stored in its system as the spectrogram. Now whenever we scan it, all we are getting is its stored data, along with any extra background noise due to our location.
If we find them free floating, they won't have been 'used', and so may give different results.
My assumption is, that these focal points only appear since that is the direction most Commanders are coming from and thus the closest place to scoop one up if desired....
That'd explain the one closest to Sol for sure, but the one directly opposite? I dunno.
True +Rep So we really need to go out there and find us a free floater... sigh If I only had the slightest idea where to find them.... this is a big galaxy :/
Forgive me if this theory has come up before.. I can't read through 8 threads worth of posts.. But I'm wondering if these little s aren't looking for resources. If it's true that they react differently based on planet type then... What if they react that way because it's not what they're looking for? Assuming the are a war capable species.. What if they're using these things to check our tech and also scan for resources?
Most of the places I've found UAs have been in areas rich with high metal planets, it would also explain why our ships are being scanned by UAs and why the probes have an EMP (defensive system?)
Meh, just out here looking around, had these thoughts.
Most of the places I've found UAs have been in areas rich with high metal planets, it would also explain why our ships are being scanned by UAs and why the probes have an EMP (defensive system?)
Meh, just out here looking around, had these thoughts.
Could the UPs possibly Triangulate to a position? I know it's hard to test at this specific time but it could relate to the message.
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*FACE PALM* Oh dear, you have wasted this weeks "Phone a friend" on asking about free floaters. We KNOW they are out there MB had already confirmed this at Lavecon
But hey ho !!!! :O In the mean time has anyone tried the audio at a frequency of 440 hz and made NO other adjustments.
Just a though on the clue last week "A key" in that the Key of "A" is 440 hz. wonder if it may show the embedded image in a new light o7
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Unfortunately i don't have the tools to try myself. [wacky]
But hey ho !!!! :O In the mean time has anyone tried the audio at a frequency of 440 hz and made NO other adjustments.
Just a though on the clue last week "A key" in that the Key of "A" is 440 hz. wonder if it may show the embedded image in a new light o7
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Unfortunately i don't have the tools to try myself. [wacky]
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