So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

We were warned to explore gunned up by MB himself, so I am siding with the old lady and watching my six for contacts where there should be none.

My AspX has 44LY jump whilst still rocking twin beams, missiles and mine launchers, plus a 5A shield.
I'm ready to kill or be killed ;-)

 

[Dehzz]

All mass bend light. Black holes do it well because they have lots and they don't blind you with their own light.

And what do we know about wormholes? Remember Interstellar effects?

 

[Backelaer]

Both Watch your Six and Keep your eyes on the skies are literal statements. The former meaning keep your tail clear and the latter meaning keep an eye out on GalNet for information coming soon. She said watch your 6 and also said you'll need a tough ship and a good pilot right before that, there's no mention of weapons. She also says once you reach the rift you'll have to plot your way across, which everyone seems to be ignoring.

Yep. Although to be fair, no one is saying that 'it' is somewhere to be found in Heart & Soul, or the starcluster some see a stickman in. I belive most people are just saying there could be hints there that point us to a more specific point across/in the rift.

 

[Jpotter]

My AspX has 44LY jump whilst still rocking twin beams, missiles and mine launchers, plus a 5A shield.
I'm ready to kill or be killed ;-)

Damn - must be a good roll on the FSD! I've only got 42LY on my Asp w/ no weapons, D class internals (other than FSD), 2 Heatsinks, class 6 AMFU, class 5 Fuel Scoop, 3A shield gen, SRV, ADS, and DSS + a 40% class 4 roll on my FSD = 42LY.

I didn't want to waste my polonium trying for a better Lv. 5 roll.

 

[Backelaer]

If watching your six is about route planning then look at this :

My RR line corrected by the nebulae :

Which in closer look leads to this place. It's filled with scoopable stars and hundreds of earthlikes, waterworlds and ammonia worlds. On the far end, there seems to be another dense group of stars BUT the yellow field, looking like a rift in space, meaning a sudden increase in distances between single stars, making it hard to get to the other side.



I'm getting obsessed to go there, yellow field indeed has "dozens of ly" between the stars, but if you watch the map closely, you'll see many path-like groups of stars with close distance to each other. I know that there is one path in this maze that will lead to the other side, even without eng upgrades.

Well, I know that most of you think it's crazy, that it's not that far etc. But there are no cmdr tags here, no one been here to tell the tale. Anyway, I'll probably start my own thread to stop distracting your viewers.

No please don't. This is actually some interesting stuff. You said you corrected your course by the nebulae. I take it you took a straight line between Heart & Soul coming from Riedquat?
Does this deviate the route from the well known crossings (Bridge and Heisenberg) much? Because I'm puzzled why you didn't come across any tagged systems.
Or did you go up or down the plane a bit?

 

[Saool]

Which in closer look leads to this place. It's filled with scoopable stars and hundreds of earthlikes, waterworlds and ammonia worlds.

Did you scan them? Did you look at their descriptions?

EDIT: The reason I ask is that I think what there is to find is Earth likes that say they are terraformed (no lights tho) or that they show signs of bombardment.

I think the story behind who terraformed them, when and why has yet to come out. But that is what I think 'it' is.

 

[Dehzz]

No please don't. This is actually some interesting stuff. You said you corrected your course by the nebulae. I take it you took a straight line between Heart & Soul?
Does that make it deviate from the well known crossings (Bridge and Heisenberg) much? Because I'm puzzled why you didn't come across any tagged systems.
Or did you go up or down the plane a bit?

I asked guys here about the deviation but they didn't answer. I persume the deviation is present, because they wrote there is void at 16kly at the end of the first RR line. Mine ends lot farther and there are those planets and star clusters. As a plane I've choosen +48 , because R and R seems to be at same height ( well rediquat is possibly a little lower but the suggestion is clear ). So I took a EAFOTS system on 48 height just in the middle of the nebulae, it was enough to optically determine the line on the map with help of bookmarks.

Oh, and the bridges? Funny thing is ,that when I followed my line I had no problem with getting between the arms, and planning another 1000 ly, like it was there, prepared and waiting.

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Did you scan them? Did you look at there descriptions?

Yep, scanning all valuable planets. Also looking at the description, but what oddities are you suggesting?
After seeing faces and animals I stopped those closer looks But after several It seems that every planet already has it's own map .

 

[Saool]

Yep, scanning all valuable planets. Also looking at the description, but what oddities are you suggesting?

Edited my post to include what I suspect.

EDIT: a line that might be missed as people are used to seeing it in the bubble: "This world has been terraformed".

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I just want to pop this out.

During and directly after the latest clues, several other people including me noticed a discrepancy in the bookmarks we had placed and when we got there ( To EAFOTS) various systems seemed to be shuttled around.

What if what we are looking for has direct access to the galmap, and can alter it on a whim?

I haven't experienced this personally, but based on what you and others have posted earlier, I've had similar thoughts to this part at least. However, I've had some weird stuff happen with bookmarks elsewhere too... though that's mostly with bookmarks appearing that I'm pretty certain I haven't selected, so a bit different. I keep assuming my issue is due to sensitive controls and selecting something without realising it.

 

[clavain]

I asked guys here about the deviation but they didn't answer. I persume the deviation is present, because they wrote there is void at 16kly at the end of the first RR line. Mine ends lot farther and there are those planets and star clusters. As a plane I've choosen +48 , because R and R seems to be at same height ( well rediquat is possibly a little lower but the suggestion is clear ). So I took a EAFOTS system on 48 height just in the middle of the nebulae, it was enough to optically determine the line on the map with help of bookmarks.

Oh, and the bridges? Funny thing is ,that when I followed my line I had no problem with getting between the arms, and planning another 1000 ly, like it was there, prepared and waiting.

Please don't assume that no responses to your post means you are being ignored. These threads move quite fast, and remember a lot of people are not following them 24/7, and only check in from time to time to look at the latest updates and the last few pages of posts. What you have found and outlined on your map looks very promising, and definitely worth posting about here as it is explored.

As an aside, I sort of suspected there were more routes across the Rift - people just fell into the habit of using the first ones that someone posted about/made public.

Great work!

 

[Dehzz]

Did you scan them? Did you look at their descriptions?

EDIT: The reason I ask is that I think what there is to find is Earth likes that say they are terraformed (no lights tho) or that they show signs of bombardment.

I think the story behind who terraformed them, when and why has yet to come out. But that is what I think 'it' is.

Or these are The Missing.

Anyway, how should we think of this quote ? :
"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."

Is it valid at all to be considered as clue ?
At firs I thought it describes one particular world, but now I think it can describe completely different places.
1. Stars blocked by octagonal ships - what can it mean? Star systems where the weapons would be helpful?
2. Sterilised worlds - fits to those hundreds of earthlikes and waterworlds,that look completely normal (apart from their number)
3. Graves from thargoid wars - what graves? USSes with wrecks ? Something to be seen from orbit on worlds? Earthlikes or Ammonia? What is the native thargoid planetary enviroment ?
4. Headstones - well maybe we should look closer on the planets, but not only earthlikes
5. Little spots of reflected light - could be another thing, not about those heads, continent require ocean, so EL or WW, ammonia too probably

I'm not telling those are the main mysteries, but if you'll find those, you'll know you're close.

 

[Saool]

Or these are The Missing.

Anyway, how should we think of this quote ? :
"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."

Is it valid at all to be considered as clue ?
At firs I thought it describes one particular world, but now I think it can describe completely different places.
1. Stars blocked by octagonal ships - what can it mean? Star systems where the weapons would be helpful?
2. Sterilised worlds - fits to those hundreds of earthlikes and waterworlds,that look completely normal (apart from their number)
3. Graves from thargoid wars - what graves? USSes with wrecks ? Something to be seen from orbit on worlds? Earthlikes or Ammonia? What is the native thargoid planetary enviroment ?
4. Headstones - well maybe we should look closer on the planets, but not only earthlikes
5. Little spots of reflected light - could be another thing, not about those heads, continent require ocean, so EL or WW, ammonia too probably

I'm not telling those are the main mysteries, but if you'll find those, you'll know you're close.

The woman says "And they thought the Thargoids were trouble". That implies it's nothing to do with Thargoids.

If you have the time and inclination, and have any records of the systems you found Earth likes in, I might be tempted to go look at there system maps again and just double check the descriptions. In particular looking for any that say they are terraformed.

 

[FuriousMeow]

I think we can safely say we aren't looking for any Generation Ships or anything like that simply because the area the Rift is in is over 7000LY away from Earth. The Generation Ships left during the 24th Century, they wouldn't have gotten much more than 3 times the edge of the bubble by 3302.

We are looking for something that, if put there by humans, happened after FTL/Jump capability and if it is something else entirely it was discovered after FTL/Jump capability.

I think most know that but I see Generation Ships pop up every once in a while and that is not likely since they were less than light speed.

 

[Dehzz]

Please don't assume that no responses to your post means you are being ignored. These threads move quite fast, and remember a lot of people are not following them 24/7, and only check in from time to time to look at the latest updates and the last few pages of posts. What you have found and outlined on your map looks very promising, and definitely worth posting about here as it is explored.

As an aside, I sort of suspected there were more routes across the Rift - people just fell into the habit of using the first ones that someone posted about/made public.

Great work!

Thanks mate, I means alot to me

As for planetary descriptions, I'll check them, maybe even will do screnshots for further analysis ( oddities in compositions or other attributes ? )
and a just scanned ww had "candidate" .

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The woman says "And they thought the Thargoids were trouble". That implies it's nothing to do with Thargoids.

If you have the time and inclination, and have any records of the systems you found Earth likes in, I might be tempted to go look at there system maps again and just double check the descriptions. In particular looking for any that say they are terraformed.

I'll do that after I'll get back, but EL is present in over 50% visited systems, sometimes two of them, sometimes with two waterworlds and ammonia world. Is it normal in other places? Espacially on the edge of the galaxy ?

 

[clavain]

Or these are The Missing.

Anyway, how should we think of this quote ? :
"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."

Is it valid at all to be considered as clue ?
At firs I thought it describes one particular world, but now I think it can describe completely different places.
1. Stars blocked by octagonal ships - what can it mean? Star systems where the weapons would be helpful?
2. Sterilised worlds - fits to those hundreds of earthlikes and waterworlds,that look completely normal (apart from their number)
3. Graves from thargoid wars - what graves? USSes with wrecks ? Something to be seen from orbit on worlds? Earthlikes or Ammonia? What is the native thargoid planetary enviroment ?
4. Headstones - well maybe we should look closer on the planets, but not only earthlikes
5. Little spots of reflected light - could be another thing, not about those heads, continent require ocean, so EL or WW, ammonia too probably

I'm not telling those are the main mysteries, but if you'll find those, you'll know you're close.

As has been clarified by Drew, John Harper, and Dan Grubb, that quote (and its various variants which appear in different versions of John's kickstarter and in And Here The Wheel) refers to a series of completely unrelated things which the Admiral has seen - so the Formidine Rift is not directly connected to the others in the quote. Lucky Luke, can we get this added to the first page somewhere if it has not been already? Ta.

 

[Dehzz]

As has been clarified by Drew, John Harper, and Dan Grubb, that quote (and its various variants which appear in different versions of John's kickstarter and in And Here The Wheel) refers to a series of completely unrelated things which the Admiral has seen - so the Formidine Rift is not directly connected to the others in the quote. Lucky Luke, can we get this added to the first page somewhere if it has not been already? Ta.

Thanks, it wasn't clear how it should be considered.

 

[clavain]

Thanks, it wasn't clear how it should be considered.

Very true - but it was hashed out somewhere back in Thread 1 or 2 several times. ;-)

 

[Cpt.Bilsn]

Or these are The Missing.

Anyway, how should we think of this quote ? :
"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."

Is it valid at all to be considered as clue ?
At firs I thought it describes one particular world, but now I think it can describe completely different places.
1. Stars blocked by octagonal ships - what can it mean? Star systems where the weapons would be helpful?
2. Sterilised worlds - fits to those hundreds of earthlikes and waterworlds,that look completely normal (apart from their number)
3. Graves from thargoid wars - what graves? USSes with wrecks ? Something to be seen from orbit on worlds? Earthlikes or Ammonia? What is the native thargoid planetary enviroment ?
4. Headstones - well maybe we should look closer on the planets, but not only earthlikes
5. Little spots of reflected light - could be another thing, not about those heads, continent require ocean, so EL or WW, ammonia too probably

I'm not telling those are the main mysteries, but if you'll find those, you'll know you're close.

Please forgive me as I might be wrong, but are we sure this particular quote is entirely about formidine's rift mystery? I was under the impression that it is a sort of musing of old veteran..

Something like: "During my fifty years in space ... I was as far as Formidine rift. Also on unrelated note, I've seen worlds sterilized by Thargoids and somewhere else I've seen continents of graves, which was pretty intense too... I am telling you all of this to elevate mystery and hint the future plot that the devs will be adding. Also I hope you'll be paying for next drinks"

 

[Dehzz]

Please forgive me as I might be wrong, but are we sure this particular quote is entirely about formidine's rift mystery? I was under the impression that it is a sort of musing of old veteran..

Something like: "During my fifty years in space ... I was as far as Formidine rift. Also on unrelated note, I've seen worlds sterilized by Thargoids and somewhere else I've seen continents of graves, which was pretty intense too... I am telling you all of this to elevate mystery and hint the future plot that the devs will be adding. Also I hope you'll be paying for next drinks"

Like an old pirate's tale hah, yeah sounds like it. But like they say, in every tale there's a bit of truth.

 

[Saool]

Thanks mate, I means alot to me

As for planetary descriptions, I'll check them, maybe even will do screnshots for further analysis ( oddities in compositions or other attributes ? )
and a just scanned ww had "candidate" .

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I'll do that after I'll get back, but EL is present in over 50% visited systems, sometimes two of them, sometimes with two waterworlds and ammonia world. Is it normal in other places? Espacially on the edge of the galaxy ?

Well I am headed out that way myself, using your map as a guide, but I am only just getting the the rimward edge of EAFOTS and about to pass into MYOIDEAU. I have my next Kly plotted and so far my 45(41)Ly AspX is coping fine. But, I'm effectively only half way from the bubble to that region, so would not be expecting to get there till the end of the week at my current pace.