UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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CMDR Tokhashi

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From the Elite: Premonition article: "If you haven't read the earlier story you'll be missing out on the background to some of the characters and the mysteries that will unravel."

Has anyone read Reclamation to know what "mysteries" were written about in it? Maybe something back then can give us a clue at to what is going on with these unknown mysteries currently

 

SocraticMammal

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CMDR Zulu said:
Interesting. Perhaps the UA and UP are intended to work together that way and the person can't go into further detail.

If that is the case what would they be used for?
One makes linear images. The other produces a blast of energy.
Now let's look at their outward appearance. The UA has those strange canisters and displays blue/green
The UP displays Red/Yellow.

I'm no expert but I'd guess one sketches and one applies? This is all hypothesis btw.
That would go alone with Ed's seemingly off topic suggestion that it's some sort of projector.

Ok tinfoil off.
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Forgive me for asking the "has anybody..." question, but, has anyone honked with both a UA and a UP next to each other in space? Or both in Cargo Hold? Or on a boat, with a goat?
 

Dark_Helmet

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As far as I remember, permit locks were put in place by the Pilots Federation, by programming our current FSD'S to not allow access to said systems. Now, I'm not saying that having a MetaDrive FSD would enable us to get around those restrictions...but...well, may be beneficial to those wanting to experience new things to help them out whenever possible.

Just saying ;)
 

rizal72

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Commander Jusu said:
Very diplomatic answer. Obviously he has very tight restrictions what to say and what not regarding this specific topic:x
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CMDR Zulu said:
Interesting. Perhaps the UA and UP are intended to work together that way and the person can't go into further detail.

If that is the case what would they be used for?
One makes linear images. The other produces a blast of energy.
Now let's look at their outward appearance. The UA has those strange canisters and displays blue/green
The UP displays Red/Yellow.

I'm no expert but I'd guess one sketches and one applies? This is all hypothesis btw.
That would go alone with Ed's seemingly off topic suggestion that it's some sort of projector.

Ok tinfoil off.
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DialBforBiscuit said:
Does this same thing happen without a UA present? (Honk and dump UP without a UA around)

Presence of the UA making the UP fall silent might indicate a procedure to unlock more info from the probe. A procedure linked to the first up image.
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VampyreGTX said:
We've ascertained that the UP ONLY can be heard by the ship it's communicating with correct? Given that you don't hear anything in this case Rizal, and FDev seems to say it's working as intended, the UP is communicating with the UA.

I know we have targeted and honked a UP with other ships around. Have we targeted another ship and honked, with a UP present (or in the 'scanning' ships hold and then released) as Rizal did?
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simulacrae said:
Interesting...I'm looking forward to more UA / UP interaction testing
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I still think it's a BUG.
It was the same with the infamous T-Ships bug, when T6 and T7 did not make the UA draw the ship.
I filed a bug, they answered in the very same way as now, and only a month later MB popped up here to say it was unintended.
We can live the case open for now, but without many expectations. From the tests I did, only the taste of bugs was left in my mouth... ;)
 

kronslodo

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Right now I'm tinfoiling (if the verb exists...) very hard about the bug report...

I currently have no possibility to run this test on my own because of connectivity issues.

I've read someone that said that the dropped UP was talking to the UA instead of the ship that dropped it..

Since the beginning I was convinced of the fact that the pictogram isn't data it's a sequence of actions to be performed in order to... what? ????? profit? Dunno... but these are instructions.

Here's what i propose as a test with the points related to the 4 quadrants.

1 - honk with the UP in the cargo old (top right panel)
2 - enter orbit (top left)
3 - locate barnacles (bottom left)
4 - drop the up over the barny and let it do its magic

I would try it myself but can't connect atm and I've no ship capable to steal an UP to a convoy by myself...

Pls if someone has an UP and he's taking in consideration of running some tests pls pls try it it wouldn't even drop the UP health since the only moment.
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
Patau82 said:
"What Frontier have asked me to write is the ‘behind the scenes’ view of what is happening in-game and I’ll be writing it as it happens. All those disparate story-line threads you’ve seen: Halsey, Artefacts, Probes, Barnacles, Permit locks, The Rift, Imperial politics, Federal machinations, the secretiveness of the Alliance and those ‘Shadowy Figures’ – yes, they’re all connected and this will explain how – in a way that just can’t be done in depth in-game."

from http://www.drewwagar.com/announcements/elite-dangerous-premonition/
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Dr Arcanonn simply has to be in there... ;)
 

Rozete

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permits
lbn 623 sector jh-v c2-24 system used to be under permit, its open now. no mysteries reported from there.. is it possible that systems are locked, for example, just to finish painting how nebulas look from there?
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Starke Hathaway said:
See, the thing that kills me about the UP purrs is that they can't be random. If they were, we would definitely see three highs or three lows in a row, which we never do. So the most random they could be is pseudorandom with that constraint (no triple repeats), and I just can't think of a reason to program them that way. The alternative hypothesis is that the purrs contain information, but I at least have been unable to find any repeating sequences within them. It's super frustrating.
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I checked with a friend who has some knowledge of communications & he suggested Manchester Code which would give no more than 2 contiguous 1s or 0s, as observed in the UP signal. I had a very quick look at the UP sonograms today, & to me it looks like there is a trace of a square wave at the top of the sonogram. It appears at the top on the right hand panel & seems to be overwritten by the circle glyphs in the middle panel. Anybody else see this? If this implies a hidden clock signal then Manchester code would not be a strong contender as that's self-clocking, but is there something similar?
 

Schlaubi71

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Just a little question regarding the UP in the hold being charged when a UA outside of the ship is honked. Did anyone go to FSD or Hyperspace while the UP was still charged? Couldn't find it on the first page. Just thought it might be worth trying.
 
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